HELP, RAMDRIVE screwed up!!

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:19 pm

Hey all? well my computers all screwed up. i'm at my friends house typeing this cause my comp dont work (internet wise). Ok heres what i did: I looked into my ramdrive, i only had 5 files, vtcp386,wsock2, wsock, mstcpdll, vudp386. and there saposted to be 7 right, i was missing ndis.vxd, and wshtcp, so i looked into my windows\system file, found those files, cut/pasted it into my ramdrive, than rebooted. when i rebooted, i looked into my ramdrive, and they were missing. i opend up IE and i couldent connect to the internet. i tried to run the batch file, but it dident even work, i unstalled my ramdrive, ran the restore bat file. rebooted. abunch of errors came up when i rebooted as like this one: " Exception Esockerror in molecule MMTASK.Exe at 00069E9B 10093: sucessful WSAStartup not yet performed" Please someone help!!! i'm so confused, i thinked and thinked for HOURS and couldent figure out how to get back my NDIS file back or my others!!! Thank you for all your help. i'll be checking back laters. THank you so much
Aloha
-GamerFreak

bp1068 · Post by **bp1068** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 12:06 am

Well hopefully you wrote down what you did also, try booting from a boot disk, or in safe mode, and make sure you edit your autoexec.bat and remove the file renames, and file copies. If you have the files that you manipulated written down, go to windows\system folder and look for them, rename them back to their original names. And remove the ramdisk command from config.sys. you want config.sys and autoexec.bat to look like they did before editing them, and again RESTORE the original names to the files that you renamed in the autoexec.bat. Good luck.

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 12:08 am

and when you are done, try it again, next time you will know to write it all down in case it still doesn't work for ya

and incase you run Win ME, you should know that as of yet I have not found a ramdrive that will work on it

if you click on the link in my sig for the RamDrive it tells ya that it is not for Win ME...... if that is the one you used I have a little advise, always read things fully before you do them

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:43 am

NORM I load my TCP/IP and a few others through the RD and it keeps just fine, I don't lose it on reboot.

I use the one in my sig

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:51 am

Originally posted by TheGameFreak
Hey all? well my computers all screwed up. i'm at my friends house typeing this cause my comp dont work (internet wise). Ok heres what i did: I looked into my ramdrive, i only had 5 files, vtcp386,wsock2, wsock, mstcpdll, vudp386. and there saposted to be 7 right, i was missing ndis.vxd, and wshtcp, so i looked into my windows\system file, found those files, cut/pasted it into my ramdrive, than rebooted. when i rebooted, i looked into my ramdrive, and they were missing. i opend up IE and i couldent connect to the internet. i tried to run the batch file, but it dident even work, i unstalled my ramdrive, ran the restore bat file. rebooted. abunch of errors came up when i rebooted as like this one: " Exception Esockerror in molecule MMTASK.Exe at 00069E9B 10093: sucessful WSAStartup not yet performed" Please someone help!!! i'm so confused, i thinked and thinked for HOURS and couldent figure out how to get back my NDIS file back or my others!!! Thank you for all your help. i'll be checking back laters. THank you so much
Aloha
-GamerFreak

Aloha
You ha it running good before. What did you change on the machine. Also here's the page so that you can copy and print it out on the files and the drive
http://www.broadbandnuts.com/ramdrive9x.shtml

Try again make sure the files paths are correct

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:04 am

Norm-

It is recommended to back up your reg in there before you make all the changes.......

4.) At this point you need to Back up your Registry

cablenut · Post by **cablenut** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:14 am

Norton Ghost

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:15 am

I know what ya mean man, I am not upset or offended in any way

that is why I talked to dannjr about a lot of the makin it easier for the newbies to understand lol

all is cool man

SVO-1 · Post by **SVO-1** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:07 pm

i am very new here and to tweaking in general. i know just enough about this stuff to be dangerous. along with that comes being scared. when i set up my ramdrives, i got to the point where it said to back-up and i ALMOST didn't do it. it seemed like too much trouble. to make a long story short, i rebooted and my pc was all screwed-up. my recovery.bat file i had made saved me. i was able to get back on-line, come here and EvilAjax told me what was wrong and i fixed it. i learned my lesson, i will never do any serious tweaking without back-up. anyone else reading this, that is new especially, Please back-up your files.

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 3:40 pm

yep everyone thinks it is no biggie till they mess up,

then they learn from their mistakes

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 4:50 pm

Originally posted by lance
and incase you run Win ME, you should know that as of yet I have not found a ramdrive that will work on it

http://www.jlajoie.com/ramdsk9xMe/

Works just fine.

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 4:55 pm

Originally posted by TheGameFreak
i was missing ndis.vxd, and wshtcp, so i looked into my windows\system file, found those files, cut/pasted it into my ramdrive, than rebooted.

Don't know if your still there or not Gamefreak, but obviously by now you've figured out that you should have copied, not cut.

What version of Win9x?
Have to know that before telling you how to restore those 2 files.
Beyond that, a reinstall of the Win9x system over your existing install will restore you also, although you will lose a few minor personalized settings.

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:08 pm

ok i finally got to my friends house again. I BACK UP ALL THE TIME. but when i did back up my reg. i couldent, cause it said the files were missing. Now i'm getting errors up the @$$. i'm missing all the files:
ndis.vxd
vtcp.386
vupd.386
mstcp.dll
wshtcp.vxd
wsock.vxd
wsock2.vxd
and i have no idea how to get them back, i ran safe mode, tried to restore my computer's reg. from 3 days ago (before this happend) but still its not in windows, no where. i run my "find files" and cant find crap. I called gateway (Tech support) and they couldent help me. So my final option is YOU Guys here or just delete my whole computer and start from scratch!!!
Thanks and Aloha,
-GamerFreak

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:12 pm

OH yea i also forgot, when i open up my sysedit. and go to config. sys, theres NOTHING in it, or when i open up my auto.bat theres alot of things missing, i dont know what happend, i just shut down my comp, than in the moring started it up, than i went to sysedit/config.sys and there was nothing in it!! damn i'm so confused!
THanks and Aloha
-GamerFreak

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:23 pm

One of you Ram drivers please help this man

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:48 pm

EvilAjax you run 98 help this guy

Mine is 2K and I don't have a 98 system to look at to help so it is up to you and Norm unless someone else steps in here

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 10:12 pm

I don't have any version of 98 currently loaded on any machine, so I can't give you step by step, but -

From the "run" line , type SFC

When it comes up on one of the tabs you'll see something similar to the wording, "extract " and "extract to" and "from"

The "extract" is the name of the file you want.

The "extract to" in your case would be C:\windows\system

The "from" would be your Win9x CD.

Do this for EACH file on your missing list.
Then reboot.

SVO-1 · Post by **SVO-1** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 11:24 pm

i don't know if this will help or not but i run w98se w/ramdrive. here is what's in my config.sys
- - -
[common]
dos=high,umb
buffers=40
device=c:\windows\himem.sys /testmem

ff
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE

REM ------------------

REM [Miscellaneous]

REM [SCSI Controllers]

REM [Display]

REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]

REM [Mouse]
REM ------------------
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 700 /E
- - -
and here is what is in my autoexec.bat:
- - -
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
PATH=E:\;%PATH%
rename c:\windows\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\ndisvxd.bak E:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vtcp386.bak E:\vtcp.386
rem rename c:\windows\system\vudp.386 vudp386.bak
rem copy c:\windows\system\vudp386.bak E:\vupd.386
rename c:\windows\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\windows\system\mstcpdll.bak E:\mstcp.dll
rem rename c:\windows\system\wshtcp.vxd wshtcp.bak
rem copy c:\windows\system\wshtcp.bak E:\wshtcp.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\wsock.vxd wsockvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsockvxd.bak E:\wsock.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\wsock2.vxd wsock2.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsock2.bak E:\wsock2.vxd

XMSDSK 51200 x: /C1 /T /Y
- - -
i do have 2 ramdrives running on my pc though - i don't know if it will be different
hope it helps - let me know if yall need anymore info from my pc to get him straightened-out

SVO-1 · Post by **SVO-1** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 11:28 pm

lol -

part of that line had the combination of symbols to make that red face.
it is a ": o" but together they =

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 1:00 am

Hmm... Where could them .dll's have gone? I'm not sure if it's safe for me to upload them to you... but I will try.. Give me your e-mail address.

Before setting up my RAMdrive my autoexec and config were both empty. I added this to my config.sys
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 700 /E
rebooted, then the RAMdrive was created... then to add the files I added this to my autoexec.bat
PATH=E:\;%PATH%
rename c:\windows\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\ndisvxd.bak E:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vtcp386.bak E:\vtcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\vupd.386 vupd386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vupd386.bak E:\vupd.386
rename c:\windows\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\windows\system\mstcpdll.bak E:\mstcp.dll
rename c:\windows\system\wsock.vxd wsockvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsockvxd.bak E:\wsock.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\wsock2.vxd wsock2.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsock2.bak E:\wsock2.vxd
That's how I have mine set up... Im not sure what you did... did you try the recover? I'd hate to say this... but if nothing works... you're going to have to format.. or maybe reinstall windows again...

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 1:05 am

I just read the first page... Why did you try and paste it there? Why didn't you execute this through autoexec.bat? Oh man... I dunno... that sucks ass. Mine only has 5 files also... BTW, it's vupd.386... not vudp.386... I dunno man...

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 2:21 am

Norm, crazy man tweak is for 2K, he is on 9x

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 2:58 am

Hey All? thank you all for trying to help me out. Thank you so much. My e.mail is: mysticman03@hotmail.com please e.mail me those things. um.....as for the other things you guys said to do. as so far as renameing, well i cant rename them, they are already those names. and i ran my restore.bat file so many times you don't even want to know. Im like camping here at my friends comp. so i'll come back and check tomorrow and try those things you told me to do and see if those works. Thanks again
Aloha
-GamerFreak

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 3:03 am

Norm just said that it's unsafe to e-mail you the files. If the files are named something else then you have a chance my friend.. Tell me what they were renamed and we might be able to help you rename them back... then voila... back to normal

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 10:01 am

Hi. I recently made a RAMdrive of 150MB (keeping 106MB for my OS). I deleted the lines Set Tmp and Set TEMP because I did not want to mess around with my registry and I only wanted increased surfing speed. It worked

My web pages open quickly and I have noticed a small increase in my DL speeds. Now I have 4 questions: How do I take 50MB from my RAMdrive and give it back to my OS? My RAMdrive has 149MB of RAM free currently. Will I notice any decrease in my internet speed if I do this? Also, can I add the lines,

DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 700 /I

to my Config.sys file after the fact? What else can I add to the Config.sys file and in what order? Thanks Norm, Lobo, Ajax, and all for your great advice. It's been a pleasure reading

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 10:36 am

Always having fun. RAMdrive working great! Thanks Norm

(lurking today)

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 11:00 am

Might have to operate on this one Doc, gee you charge so much though, a arm and leg and then money, hehe

So get your bag ready

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 11:31 am

Thinking about buying my own bank. Like to cut out the middle man.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 11:33 am

Along with a few arms and legs to sell, yes it could work, hehe

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:08 pm

Originally posted by Norm
By the looks of it you used the ramdrive I either made an installer for or you read the article I wrote and did it manually.

In that case, to reduce the size you need to edit your autoexec.bat. In it you'll see a line similar to this:

XMSDSK 51200 I: /C1 /T /Y

The 51200 is the size in KB 1 MB = 1024 KB
to take 50 MB away and have 100 MB for the ramdrive just change that number to 102400, save the file, then reboot.

Havin fun?

Having great fun Norm. Btw, nice dental work

j/k. Yes, I read your superb article and installed the RAMdrive manually. Here's what's inside my Autoexec file:

rem 153600 = size of desired drive(1024 x 150), I: = desired drive letter, /C1, /t /y - leave these the same
XMSDSK 153600 I: /C1 /T /Y
md I:\TEMP
md I:\Dap

Now do I replace both instances of 153600 with 102400?

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:39 pm

Hi SannieRose

The first instances you see is proceeded by the three letters: "rem". REM means "pay no attention to this line of words/numbers. Change them both... but the second instances is the one to change to make things happen.

Good luck. Sounds like you're having fun

Doc

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:54 pm

Originally posted by MadDoctor
Hi SannieRose The first instances you see is proceeded by the three letters: "rem". REM means "pay no attention to this line of words/numbers. Change them both... but the second instances is the one to change to make things happen.

Good luck. Sounds like you're having fun

Doc

Thanks Doc. On my way to change 'em now. *And she's off!*

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:08 pm

Originally posted by Norm
Remove that line, or leave it as is so it does not try to create a second ramdrive and give you errors.
Like Doc says, it is ignored as long as the "rem" statement is there.

Change the second occurance of the XMSDSK line only!

Too late!

Here's what my change(s) look like

rem 102400 = size of desired drive(1024 x 100), I: = desired drive letter, /C1, /t /y - leave these the same
XMSDSK 102400 I: /C1 /T /Y
md I:\TEMP
md I:\Dap

Should I be worried

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:41 pm

Hey guys? well i had no choice but to format my computer. now i have to start all over again. But i tried to reinstall me ramdrive. It worked perfectly until i rebooted. Ok i added these things into my config.sys:
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 700 /E
and added this to my auto.bat:
PATH=D:\;%PATH%
rename c:\windows\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\ndisvxd.bak D:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vtcp386.bak D:\vtcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\vudp.386 vudp386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vudp386.bak D:\vupd.386
rename c:\windows\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\windows\system\mstcpdll.bak D:\mstcp.dll
rename c:\windows\system\wshtcp.vxd wshtcp.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wshtcp.bak D:\wshtcp.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\wsock.vxd wsockvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsockvxd.bak D:\wsock.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\wsock2.vxd wsock2.bak
copy c:\windows\system\wsock2.bak D:\wsock2.vxd
Rebooted, went to IE, and couldent connect to the websites. Hum.. when i open my ramdrive, i now have 7 files, instead of the 5 i had earlier. Could someone help me out?
Thanks and Aloha,
-GamerFreak

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:46 pm

Thanks Norm. Next question: I downloaded your RWin tweak. It says the size of my RWin is 25552. Not so. See below. Oh, and I have not changed the RWIN size yet.

_________________________________________________
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)

TCP options string = 020405b401010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 65535
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 65535
Note: Under Windows 9x, if you have RWIN set to any other value, and the Analyzer reports 65535 you might need to install the MS Vtcp386 fix.
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 2621.4 kbps (327.675 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1048.56 kbps (131.07 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 47 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000
__________________________________________________

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 11:32 pm

TheGameFreak
check your email

TheGameFreak · Post by **TheGameFreak** » Fri Jun 08, 2001 12:51 am

I checked my e.mail, now check your e.mail

----GamerFreak

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:18 am

I checked mine you check yours

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:26 am

You guys are having WAY too much fun!

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:15 am

yeah they are lol, but I am laughin so it's all good

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