how would u attack the US?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:28 pm

if u were going to, how would u.

9-11 was a dumb idea, personally i'd go for the water systems and power plants, mainly the muclear ones.

then work at teh wharehouses that have needed supplies to cut off the transport path.

dark thoughts but was just thinking about it.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:30 pm

Power plants first.

Then, go for media stations.

Military bases

Civil Services

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:32 pm

u would need an army for millitary bases, 100 ppl spread out could hit my list pretty easy

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:33 pm

No offence but this is a STUPID topic.....

its asking for all kinda trouble...

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:34 pm

depends on my home country and what my resources are...
(as far as nuclear weapons...)

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:34 pm

Originally posted by JBKM
No offence but this is a STUPID topic.....

its asking for all kinda trouble...

ya i thought about that, but i'm curious, i knew it would ruffle some feathers, but my curiousity won the "post or not" battle

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:35 pm

Originally posted by BaLa
depends on my home country and what my resources are...
(as far as nuclear weapons...)

small group of say 100-200 ppl, terrorist type cult

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:39 pm

I guess I don't have resources for that then?...
a few ABombs on some of the bigger cities..

the reason I mentioned location is b/c of the fallout of an ABomb..

obviously if one lived in canada that would NOT be an advisable thing to do...

all in all that's not an easy question...

obviously you would want to screw the power plants and water plants/towers

military bases (mainly air force is most important...)
you'd also want to get rid of some of the larger aircraft carriers..

EthanHunt16 · Post by **EthanHunt16** » Wed May 01, 2002 1:46 pm

id put poison in all teh mcdonald french fries served in teh USA

Mike_W · Post by **Mike_W** » Wed May 01, 2002 2:33 pm

The 9-11 attack was never designed to kill a lot of Americans such as the attacks you are discussing. It was designed to strike at the hearts fo Americans on a personal level, which it did, but failed in its likely design to demoralize us and shut our economy down.
Tactical nuclear weapons detonated locally (on our soil) would be more of the type of attack your discussion is about.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed May 01, 2002 2:35 pm

assimilation

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Wed May 01, 2002 2:37 pm

sever internet and communication backbones/lines.

sorry, not a real violent attack.

lvslr · Post by **lvslr** » Wed May 01, 2002 2:43 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
if u were going to, how would u.

9-11 was a dumb idea, personally i'd go for the water systems and power plants, mainly the muclear ones.

then work at teh wharehouses that have needed supplies to cut off the transport path.

dark thoughts but was just thinking about it.

I see your reasoning for thinking that 9-11 was a dumb idea. And i know that you are a clear thinker from reading all of your posts. But we need to look at what the cause of the attack was and what there final objective was.

IMHO they accomplished there mission and more.

Because they used "the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."

Terrorists generally know what they are doing. Their selection of a target is planned and rational. They know the effect they seek. Terrorist violence is neither spontaneous nor random. Terrorism is intended to produce fear; by implication, that fear is engendered in someone other than the victim. In other words, terrorism is a psychological act conducted for its impact on an audience.

The rational terrorist thinks through his goals and options, making a cost-benefit analysis. He seeks to determine whether there are less costly and more effective ways to achieve his objective than terrorism. To assess the risk, he weighs the target's defensive capabilities against his own capabilities to attack. He measures his group's capabilities to sustain the effort. The essential question is whether terrorism will work for the desired purpose, given societal conditions at the time. The terrorist's rational analysis is similar to that of a military commander or a business entrepreneur considering available courses of action.

Psychological motivation for terrorism derives from the terrorist's personal dissatisfaction with his life and accomplishments. He finds his raison d'etre in dedicated terrorist action. Although no clear psychopathy is found among terrorists, there is a nearly universal element in them that can be described as the "true believer."2 Terrorists do not even consider that they may be wrong and that others' views may have some merit. Terrorists tend to project their own antisocial motivations onto others, creating a polarized "we versus they" outlook. They attribute only evil motives to anyone outside their own group. This enables the terrorists to dehumanize their victims and removes any sense of ambiguity from their minds. The resulting clarity of purpose appeals to those who crave violence to relieve their constant anger. The other common characteristic of the psychologically motivated terrorist is the pronounced need to belong to a group. With some terrorists, group acceptance is a stronger motivator than the stated political objectives of the organization. Such individuals define their social status by group acceptance.

Cultures shape values and motivate people to actions that seem unreasonable to foreign observers. Americans are reluctant to appreciate the intense effect of culture on behavior. We accept the myth that rational behavior guides all human actions. Even though irrational behavior occurs in our own tradition, we seek to explain it by other means. We reject as unbelievable such things as vendettas, martyrdom, and self-destructive group behavior when we observe them in others. We view with disbelief such things as the dissolution of a viable state for the sake of ethnic purity when the resulting ministates are economically anemic.

Ashdaw · Post by **Ashdaw** » Wed May 01, 2002 4:49 pm

There is no need to devise nasty scenarios. The US is doing quite well on its own. A judicial system that lets crims back on the street and of course Political correctness but, we musnt forget the Jerry Springer show and others like it. Forbidding Religious gatherings at PUBLIC schools?. These are killing America faster than anyone else can.

All an Enemy has to do is sit back and wait.

kneemeister · Post by **kneemeister** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:09 pm

I think that it would have been even more successsful if they would have picked 4 towns with say 10-30,000 population and crashed into the local high school. That would have put the whole country into a total panic, as if Greenburg Indiana for instance gets hit, nothing would seem safe anywhere.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:20 pm

I wouldn't......

thechemgeek · Post by **thechemgeek** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:43 pm

put a time released virus on paper money. travel the US, stop in every major city. spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. the release would happen 2 months after first spending of the money. local, state and federal agencies could not contain it, nor figure out where it came from. perhaps a form of smallpox would be best.

i thought of two more...but they are worst. better keep them to myself.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:55 pm

Originally posted by Deus ex Machina
I wouldn't......

altho some countries could.. maybe one, maybe a few.. it wouldn't be smart.. too many deaths.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:57 pm

With my bare hands

wimps

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Wed May 01, 2002 6:59 pm

Originally posted by Norm
With my bare hands

wimps

Put'em up!!

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed May 01, 2002 7:04 pm

All 300 million of ya, 500 ata time lol

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed May 01, 2002 7:14 pm

Originally posted by mikemean
A controversial topic....I'm hesitant to reply....

I'd go for the major power plants/nuclear plants, water supplies that type of thing.

....still don't know if I should have replied

that's the dumbest reply in this whole thread...

grundy · Post by **grundy** » Wed May 01, 2002 7:30 pm

well, the water supply thing has me a little worried. just a little. but I happen to think that a fine way to spend a summer day is hiking or riding to a lake, and going for a swim. around here, most of the pretty lakes are drinking water supply reservoirs, and thus are off limits.

I am very aware of how hard it is to prevent access to them. it seems like it would be very, very easy to add some kind of a poison or toxic substance to them. how effective that substance would be I don't know (I assume the water is heavily treated) but it sure would be easy to get it into the water...

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Wed May 01, 2002 7:38 pm

smallpox various other diseases. Also for the long term I would slowly try to diminish the economic infrastructure with counterfit money and misinformation and then make sure I was well entrenched in every facet when it started back on the upswing. Then with a couple of strategic buyoffs of politicians and buisnessmen I would attempt a coup!

click_here · Post by **click_here** » Wed May 01, 2002 8:16 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
if u were going to, how would u.

9-11 was a dumb idea, personally i'd go for the water systems and power plants, mainly the muclear ones.

then work at teh wharehouses that have needed supplies to cut off the transport path.

dark thoughts but was just thinking about it.

I would knock out the satellites.

thereby stopping most mobile phones,television news,some internet,pagers,and many other important communications,effectively shutting down the states.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Wed May 01, 2002 8:22 pm

Originally posted by BaLa

that's the dumbest reply in this whole thread...

One would have thought

Bala, you really need to stop beating around the bush with your posts and just come out and say what you are really thinking

mikemean · Post by **mikemean** » Wed May 01, 2002 8:24 pm

Originally posted by Noevo

One would have thought

Bala, you really need to stop beating around the bush with your posts and just come out and say what you are really thinking

Yes, please do.

tHE_0ne · Post by **tHE_0ne** » Wed May 01, 2002 8:51 pm

I would:

Get those little remote control air-planes

put some C4 on it, and go to a airport and fly the little plane into a engine of a jetplane while it took off or lands, and boom it would kill so many people.....

i heard this on the internet, wasnt by me, doesnt that sound messed up

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Wed May 01, 2002 9:25 pm

Originally posted by Brent
assimilation

Yup. Very easy to do. Just time consuming.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Wed May 01, 2002 9:31 pm

Originally posted by Ashdaw
There is no need to devise nasty scenarios. The US is doing quite well on its own. A judicial system that lets crims back on the street and of course Political correctness but, we musnt forget the Jerry Springer show and others like it. Forbidding Religious gatherings at PUBLIC schools?. These are killing America faster than anyone else can.

All an Enemy has to do is sit back and wait.

Did you just happen to forget about the first ten words of the First Amendment? "Congress shall make no establishment of religion" to paraphrase. If I (an Athiest) was subjected to a school-wide prayer, I would kill.

You /can/ still pray, but don't force your screwed-up (IMHO) beliefs on me. You got that? Thanks.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Wed May 01, 2002 9:51 pm

Originally posted by Paft

Did you just happen to forget about the first ten words of the First Amendment? "Congress shall make no establishment of religion" to paraphrase. If I (an Athiest) was subjected to a school-wide prayer, I would kill.

You /can/ still pray, but don't force your screwed-up (IMHO) beliefs on me. You got that? Thanks.

Bit testy eh? *looks for salt to pour in wound*

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed May 01, 2002 10:05 pm

Originally posted by brembo

Bit testy eh? *looks for salt to pour in wound*

yea it was a pissy sounding remark, but seriously, i'm muslim and the funnest thing in high school was having southern baptists tell me i'm going to hell ... then monday hear them talk bout how they got trashed and slept with such and such.. etc.. i would not enjoy a school wide christian prayer because i am not christian (not that i have anything against the religion, just i want to go to school too.. heh).

Amro

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Wed May 01, 2002 10:09 pm

Originally posted by Amro

yea it was a pissy sounding remark, but seriously, i'm muslim and the funnest thing in high school was having southern baptists tell me i'm going to hell ... then monday hear them talk bout how they got trashed and slept with such and such.. etc.. i would not enjoy a school wide christian prayer because i am not christian (not that i have anything against the religion, just i want to go to school too.. heh).

Amro

Oh...the Holy(er) than thou crowd? Heh, come live in the bible belt, its interesting to say the least. My opinion is that religion is between you and your maker, no need to flaunt it, or make overtures when none are wanted. Help when ya can, but otherwise, its a personal thing IMO.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed May 01, 2002 10:13 pm

Originally posted by brembo

Oh...the Holy(er) than thou crowd? Heh, come live in the bible belt, its interesting to say the least. My opinion is that religion is between you and your maker, no need to flaunt it, or make overtures when none are wanted. Help when ya can, but otherwise, its a personal thing IMO.

yup exactly.. i didn't take much head to it as they were idiots (i'm in georgia, need i say more??) so anyway yea... it was unpleasent..but i hated high school anyway.. everyone was so dang stupid and kiddie like.. huh huh lets wrastle in class *snap* AHH! that was my leg!.. yea. someone broke their leg.. teacher fired..at my school..gotta love it..

Amro

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Wed May 01, 2002 10:56 pm

Originally posted by Amro

yea it was a pissy sounding remark, but seriously, i'm muslim and the funnest thing in high school was having southern baptists tell me i'm going to hell ... then monday hear them talk bout how they got trashed and slept with such and such.. etc.. i would not enjoy a school wide christian prayer because i am not christian (not that i have anything against the religion, just i want to go to school too.. heh).

Amro

For them accepting Jesus is the panacea for all their ills. I would think that G-d and Christ would expect better behaviour.

salaam,
david

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed May 01, 2002 11:17 pm

Originally posted by Deus ex Machina

For them accepting Jesus is the panacea for all their ills. I would think that G-d and Christ would expect better behaviour.

salaam,
david

i know it..i didn't take it sitting down.. don't worry i stood up and said, "wow--this is from people i've known how long? i suppose you guys aren't hypocrits are you...going to get wasted, have premarital sex, etc... friday and saturday..and church on sunday to make up for it right?"..i went off..they felt stupid..and ppl didn't like the entire 'group for a while.. it was amazing, in most of my high school classrooms.. i was the only one of three things 1) virgin 2) person who had not tried any drug or 3) heavy alcohol drinker...was funny.. all's well now though as i'll never see those people (yay)..and i've a lot of good friends and things going for me.. who knows where i'll be in 5 years...i'm hoping working for a good programming firm....

Amro

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Wed May 01, 2002 11:23 pm

Vote Rosy O' Donnel for Prez...... nuff said....lol

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Thu May 02, 2002 12:34 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Vote Rosy O' Donnel for Prez...... nuff said....lol

*shudder*

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