You won't believe what Motherboard I just bought :o

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 7:20 pm

Iwil XP333-R

Here's the Product Page on it: http://www.iwillusa.com/products/spec.a ... SupportID=

I'm going to look up reviews on it tonight

Here's the key points:

(The kicker that is shocking)
Chipset: ALi MAGiK 1 M1647 (C-version) chipset

John is cool

ALi M1535D+ (South Bridge)

Main points:

Duron/T-bird/XP support, on the box it lists that it even supports XP 1900+ which shows it's a very current mobo and chipset

It has the High Point 372 ATA/133 RAID controller on it just like the Abit KR7A-RAID

It's native ON board IDE supports 33/66/100/133 yes, 133. I haven't seen a native on board IDE supporting ATA/133 yet, but this one has it.

It supports DDR333!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 Yep PC2700 DDR

It has 3 dimms that support up to 3GB of PC2700 DDR333 yummy, what I gotta find out is if the mem bus is independently controlled from the FSB, cause then you could run the mem at 166 and keep the FSB at 133, I'll check on that.

I have to run to work now, but when i get home tonight, this baby is going in my main system, and I'll give it a whirl. Been a long while since i've owned an Ali Magic chipsetted board

but boy is this board loaded with features

we can compare mem bandwidth scores and all and see where this board stands, i bet it would be pretty good with some DDR333 (pc2700 modules)

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:09 pm

Lucky you!

How much was it?>

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:36 pm

Here's a picture of it

Wow, look how much space there is around the CPU, plenty of room for a large heatsink, and to get your fingers around to get heatsinks off and on easier

It DOES support the Independent FSB from Mem Bus, and it supports up to 233Mhz FSB in increments of 1Mhz

Here is 1 review I just found:

http://www.ocworkbench.com/hardware/iwi ... leryp1.htm

Note there IS a newer BIOS out already from when that review was done, it came out in December with 'enhanced performance' so of course i'll flash it when i get it installed.

Another Review:

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/IWill/XP333-R/

it has a 1/6th PCI divider

He got his to a 205Mhz FSB stable

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:37 pm

Originally posted by HalfLifer
Lucky you!

How much was it?>

$149 at Frys

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:38 pm

Ugh, I want a fry's by me

MAmuT · Post by **MAmuT** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:47 pm

look at mine

go here

: )

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 9:01 pm

Wow check out this review

http://accelenation.com/?doc=101&page=1

on page 2 look at the Gaming benchmarks

!

it's faster then a KT266A!

i will have to confirm this

KANO · Post by **KANO** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 9:09 pm

post back what you find out, i went off iwill big time & im thinking of getting a new mb again, if it beats the KT266A & has soft menu 3 i might get it, only because u rate it.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 9:12 pm

well this doesn't sound good

http://support.iwill.net/cgi-bin/ebbs/U ... 0&Session=

I am just checking out forums and stuff about this board right now

I don't have an extra Athlon XP to try out in it though, the CPU i'm using in it is an Athlon Thunderbird 1.4Ghz

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:09 pm

Better hope that's not true.

I'm sure you'll figure out a way to OC it.

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:13 pm

It looks like a very nice motherboard....finally something new talk about besides those MSI Pro ones....hehehe

Wait, did you say you bought it? yeah, I don't believe that, you never buy anything....I'm sure you just got it in the mail and didn't want to rub it in so you said you bought it.......yeah, I'm on to.....I know what you're all about......

syncmaster · Post by **syncmaster** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:24 pm

Originally posted by MagicMikey
It looks like a very nice motherboard....finally something new talk about besides those MSI Pro ones....hehehe

Wait, did you say you bought it? yeah, I don't believe that, you never buy anything....I'm sure you just got it in the mail and didn't want to rub it in so you said you bought it.......yeah, I'm on to.....I know what you're all about......

Brent i believe the MagicMikey too

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:26 pm

Ya, noticed how he said it? "The" MagicMikey......you know what that means?

......that means that I know what I'm talking about..

intense · Post by **intense** » Tue Dec 11, 2001 11:28 pm

Brent email JackieO he is a big fan of Iwill boards and is close to Iwill he may be able to help you out.

intense

MtCableman · Post by **MtCableman** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:24 am

I really like my IWILL KA266R motherboard. It almost looks like th one you bought. However, mine will support the ATHLON XP.

My system:
INWIN Q500 10 bay tower
IWILL KA266R @140Mhz
Athlon 1.2 Ghz @ 1.33 Ghz (Had it to 1.42Ghz once!)
384 Mb DDR RAM (Crucial)
ATI RADEON VIVO 64M DDR cloked to 200Mhz
40 Gb drive space - 2- 20Gb Western Digital 7200RPM RAID 0
CTX 19 inch Monitor
O/S WIN XP PRO
Other stuff you can't live without(burner,scanner,printer...etc..)

Good Luck Brent.......

CLOCK IT HARD! It's still under warranty!!!

Jesse23 · Post by **Jesse23** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:38 am

Abit Kr7a raid

amd Tbird 1.33@1566
174x9
512 Crucial

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 1:17 am

I'm sure you've posted this before... but what do you have for cooling jesse? I'm in the market for a new mobo and cpu, and those speeds look very nice...

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 1:34 am

Originally posted by HalfLifer
Ugh, I want a fry's by me

Michigan sux.

Jesse23 · Post by **Jesse23** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 6:42 am

Thermalright sk6 with 8k Delta
4x80mm case fans
sides off for now
my room is cold also

Jesse23 · Post by **Jesse23** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 6:43 am

OTT,
After xmas I am going to be getting an athlon XP so if you are interested in my 1.33 AYHJA "Y" let me know.

Phantom-Vortex · Post by **Phantom-Vortex** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 9:35 am

I posted that same board days ago.........LOL https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... adid=58446

Iwill is allways fast but they are usually allways unstable, but good luck!!

Oh ....another thing should have waited a little longer QDR is just around the corner.And theres talk of mobo in the making for it now.

maroon · Post by **maroon** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 10:56 am

I wanted this board really bad until they announced it would have the ALi chipset. *yuk*

Phantom, I don't know what Iwill mobos you've had before, but my KK266 with the Via KT133A chipset is rock solid and overclocks like a champ. When it came out, reviews stated it was more stable than Abit and Asus competitors.

I'm hopefully waiting on a Via 266a mobo for Iwill.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 11:36 am

I bought this thing cause i was mad

I broke my KG7 I wanted to put in my main system, so I got mad and ran to Frys to get good damned motherboard for my main computer finally, I was tired of using a slow crap ORINGLAL first revision MSI K7T266, the one with the transistor out of place so the mem bandwidth was to that of SDRAM, so i wnated a good board

I really wanted to get the Epox KT266A motherboard, but they didn't have it yet, it said "Coming Soon", so then I looked for Sis 735 mobos, they only had one and it was an ECS and I didn't want that brand, so then I saw this one, it was loaded with features and that caught my eye, the fact that it uses Ali though made me wonder, so I thought what the hell, and bought it cause i was in a hurry :P

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:06 pm

i may hold off on the kr7a now...

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:29 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
i may hold off on the kr7a now...

Abit's RMA rate is still increasing

IMO they really need to start listening to people and pull through, there is way to much return rate on their mobos, and it's showing that it's increasing.....

They better get with the program, or leave it to those that can

I love Abit, i've always bought Abit in the past, cause in the past they use to be good

but currently, I'm seeking out other options

the MSI boards for one, though I don't like the Promise controller on em

Epox boards are excellent

Iwill is good

Soyo maybe even, i might give them another look at

Asus

If frys had had the Epox KT266A mobo in I would have gotten that one

Hell I'm even looking at the Sis 735

There's a lot to choose from, so Abit better strart making competition or get out of the pak, their boards are usually priced high anyways.....

I'd still love to own an Abit KR7A, but with other options out there, and high price from Abit, and high RMA rate, I'm weary, and Have put a hold on grabbing a KR7A for now..... Gotta re-examine my situation and what I need

but for now I got this new Iwill XP333-R to play with hehe

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:59 pm

ya this sis 735 isnt bad even at 266mhz ddr teh benches were lower then my oced adn tweaked sdram on the kt7a, but it was soooo smooth i was very impressed, if i can only get windows to install nicely.

Phantom-Vortex · Post by **Phantom-Vortex** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 1:38 pm

Originally posted by maroon
I wanted this board really bad until they announced it would have the ALi chipset. *yuk*

Phantom, I don't know what Iwill mobos you've had before, but my KK266 with the Via KT133A chipset is rock solid and overclocks like a champ. When it came out, reviews stated it was more stable than Abit and Asus competitors.

I'm hopefully waiting on a Via 266a mobo for Iwill.

Ka266r & dvd266r
Just dont much care for them, sorry.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 1:45 pm

ya why do they stick with ali magik!!!

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 2:34 pm

Running at 150Mhz FSB (300Mhz DDR speed) at Cas2 right now

I've got an unlocked 1.4 t-bird in here, which i have lowered the multiplier to keep it as close o 1.4Ghz as I can cause I don't have a real good hsf on there right now, it cools it fine at 1.4Ghz but anything over is not stable

so i'm running 9.5 x 150 right now

so far so good!

i'm gonna reach for more and get the new bios for this board which has 'enhanced performance' then i'll post my mem resuts

right now they aren't too good, even at 150Mhz fsb, so there is more tweaking to be done

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Dec 12, 2001 8:35 pm

wow check otu this review and his scores

http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?caller ... 333_6.html

it seems in synthetic tests like Sandra its slower

but in real world games and apps and benchmarks it's FASTER then a KT266A mobo!!!!!!!111

freckmoto · Post by **freckmoto** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 8:40 pm

Curious how this board is going for you Brent. My dad is in the media field and has found a huge amount of non-taxable income he forgot about, so new comp for me

Looking for a mobo with my new XP. What do you think?

Freck

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 11:57 pm

know as well..very much considering going with a DDR mobo, just unsure.

HongKongPolice · Post by **HongKongPolice** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 2:32 am

Problems with this board:

1) Using 1/5 or 1/6 PCI dividers causes mem bandwidth to take a dive, making the gain in FSB useless cuz the lower bandwidth cancels it out, or you could try to run @ 180Mhz+ with a 1/4 divider and hope your PCI cards don't fry.... but from what I read, the new bios version doesn't allow you to adjust the dividers manually anymore....

2) Itz an ALi chipset, more compatibility problems, and slower fixes

3) Memory benches are lower than KT266A boards, and no, the KT266A still beats it in gaming benches, look here

Iwill kix ass, but the chipset just isn't as fast as Via's. The KR7A-Raid is only $65 CAD ($42 USD) more than the XP333 for me in local stores, and i'm gettin 1 tomorrow. Theres way more support for the KR7A, like modded BIOS that updates the Raid controller to the newest BIOS, lots of hidden tweaks and such, and yes, the KR7A supports ATA133 via the southbridge as well, like the XP333.

freckmoto · Post by **freckmoto** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:16 am

Going with an MSI K7T Pro2 RU

Freck

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 2:00 pm

pricing in Toronto right now is kinda inflated for the season, so I'm not buying jack yet.

freckmoto · Post by **freckmoto** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 2:49 pm

Hehe, I have to buy a whole new comp before december 31 hehehe. Tax write off

Dad just told me he wants to use it for vid editing so i get ATI AIW 8500 and a DVD RW! Very cool.

Freck

HongKongPolice · Post by **HongKongPolice** » Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:47 pm

I just bought a KR7A-Raid with an AthlonXP 1600+, AGKGA Week 45, i hope itz very overclockable, since AGKGA chips are the best. Gonna order a new waterblock from dangerden as well, waiting for my dad's flight to arrive in 2 hours cuz he bought me 2 sticks of KingMax DDR300 256MB

These sticks can do 170Mhz+ with most aggresive settings @ default voltage

HongKongPolice · Post by **HongKongPolice** » Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:56 pm

Terrance, prices are not inflated, a KR7A-Raid costs about $160 from online stores in the states, thats $256 CAD, I paid $266 for mine which is cheaper than buying online cuz shipping will cost way more than $10 CAD...

The CPU i got for $200 CAD, online stores cost $120 USD which translates to $192 CAD, again, cheaper than buying online. Now I just need to unlock the bastard.... argh, the bridges are so FUKIN SMALL!!!!!!!

The ram my dad bought in HK, about $90 CAD per stick which is DAMN cheap for DDR300, costs $70 USD per stick in online stores.

Juggernaut · Post by **Juggernaut** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 4:44 pm

TigerUpperCut, whereabouts do you live and at what store did you get those buys from?? Those are some good deals and curious to where you got them.

TIA

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 6:29 pm

ahh well still a bit out of my price range at the moment, the peformance isn't good enough to get me going just yet, but that Nforce board has my eye.

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