Afghan Christian Could Get Death Sentence

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:54 pm

http://www.comcast.net/news/internation ... 49118.html

So much for the Religon of Peace!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:09 pm

Ah...dropped in to stir the pot, eh?

Hey, carry on, dude! We love and respect the folk who can carry the spoon........they, like fat bottom girls, make the rockin world go round!!

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:16 pm

The only person stiring is you! why don't you post a relevent reply to the thread...or just let it fall to the bottom of the forum? I watched you clean a thread today of unrelevent post chastizing others about doing it..then you turn around and do the exact same thing you chastized those posters for here!

Golf clapp to you....nothing to add or discuss to my post....you are the problem!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:21 pm

Thanks!

I'm questioning you reference to the religion of peace. I'm not sure what that has to do with the whole picture. Fundamentalism is just that. Doesn't matter what religion it is. Ask Timothy McVie.

A nut case is a nut case. Doesn't matter if they are wearing jeans, a kilt or running about butt naked.

Other than that, imho, the forum NEEDS more conservative views for a more balanced discussion. I'd only wish they weren't so umm........put up in such a way as to really distract from the story linked. Like the the other thread you put up.

Keep on spooning!

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:26 pm

well do you think its a problem of their religion or is it a problem that we basically had taken over the country and we allowed them to do as they pleased rather then have a say in how they should form their government? Weren't we also supposed to be bringing them democracy as well and removing the overbearing terrorist supporting Taliban regime?
Isn't this something our government should have considered before they handed over the reins to the country?
Pie

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:27 pm

downhill wrote: Keep on spooning!

like you?

I doubt you'd allow it.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:33 pm

Was there a certain article you were pointing at, cuz I jsut get a comcast news page limiting it to international items.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:34 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:like you? I doubt you'd allow it.

Well you see, the fact is, we do. What I consider stiring the pot is a member who's only contributions is to drop in and post political nonsense. Lots of members post and create political and religious threads. They also partake of the fun here. They contribute to other threads in the general fourm that have nothing to do with politics/religion and also partake in the other fourms.

Then there are those who certianly seem to have only one agenda here..

Like this...

http://forums.speedguide.net/search.php?searchid=394263

The big spoon..

Carry on!

Back to subject. The Tailban is on the rise again in Afghanistan, aided by battle tested Al Qeada in Iraq, traveling to Afghanistan. It's getting ugly for sure.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:39 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Was there a certain article you were pointing at, cuz I jsut get a comcast news page limiting it to international items.

Its down towards the bottom of the list of topics

Pie

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:41 pm

downhill wrote:Well you see, the fact is, we do. What I consider stiring the pot is a member who's only contributions is to drop in and post political nonsense. Lots of members post and create political and religious threads. They also partake of the fun here. They contribute to other threads in the general fourm that have nothing to do with politics/religion and also partake in the other fourms.

Then there are those who certianly seem to have only one agenda here..

Like this...

http://forums.speedguide.net/search.php?searchid=394263

The big spoon..

Carry on!

Back to subject. The Tailban is on the rise again in Afghanistan, aided by battle tested Al Qeada in Iraq, traveling to Afghanistan. It's getting ugly for sure.

Mighty fine post you have compiled there. Ofcourse your the only one stirring this....

looks like you're quite experienced at that.

nice edit to try and "play" carry on convo on topic.

sad your able to get away with acting like this.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:49 pm

...a crime under this country's Islamic laws...

Sounds like the guy is an idiot. If its agaisnt the law and the punishment is death, maybe he should have moved first. Not every country has free religous choice.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:52 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Sounds like the guy is an idiot. If its agaisnt the law and the punishment is death, maybe he should have moved first. Not every country has free religous choice.

His family took his kids and when he came back home to try to fight them for Custody they must have used that law against him to keep him from getting them. he was living in Germany.

Pie

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:59 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Sounds like the guy is an idiot. If its agaisnt the law and the punishment is death, maybe he should have moved first. Not every country has free religous choice.

Exactly.

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:39 am

Paft wrote:Exactly.

Good to see you finally comming around to accept religious intolerance......just a different country... for now.

Only problem with your agreement with YoS is this....

Rahman returned to Afghanistan in 2002 and tried to gain custody of his two daughters, now aged 13 and 14, who had been living with their grandparents their whole lives, the father said. A custody battle ensued and the matter was taken to the police.

During questioning, it emerged that Rahman was a Christian and was carrying a Bible. He was immediately arrested and charged, the father said.

he didn't live there anylonger. He only returned to regain custody of his children.

Under Shariah law any muslim that converts from Islam faces the ultimate penalty of death. No matter where they live.

Lovely

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:45 am

jeffe5150 wrote:Good to see you finally comming around to accept religious intolerance......just a different country... for now.

I don't accept religious intolerance on a personal level. Never have, never will - you should be free to worship or not worship as long as you please and as much as you please.

Nice mud-slinging though. All I did was agree with YoS that the man - knowing his life was forefeit if he was found out - returned to the country to get his kids. Sorry, but that was an act of monumental idiocy, even if I don't agree with what that country is doing.

jeffe5150 wrote:Under Shariah law any muslim that converts from Islam faces the ultimate penalty of death. No matter where they live.

Lovely

Tough ****. If you choose to live under those laws (and in this case, the guy did) and to do things that break those laws, well, your life is forefeit. If you did not choose to live under those laws then sorry, and I would help anyone I could who wanted to get out from under that oppression.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:16 am

The best thing he could have done was to go in and kidnap his kids and then split over the border. I feel bad for the kids not being with their dad and now dad gonna die or get life imprisonment.

Pie

MissTynker2 · Post by **MissTynker2** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:21 am

downhill wrote:Ah...dropped in to stir the pot, eh?

Hey, carry on, dude! We love and respect the folk who can carry the spoon........they, like fat bottom girls, make the rockin world go round!!

Dang it!! Ya made me jealous again!! I wish there was any part of my body that had any type of fat contact!!! Enjoy your evening Sir...

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:06 am

thepieman wrote:Its down towards the bottom of the list of topics

Pie

Anybody got a direct link? Its not at the bottom of the page from what I see.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:10 am

Roody, here's a link to the story on the ABC site.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... id=1743620

Looks to be the same source as the one linked above.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:36 am

downhill wrote:Roody, here's a link to the story on the ABC site.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... id=1743620

Looks to be the same source as the one linked above.

Thanks for the link DH. Its a shame Afghanistan feels that way.

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:44 am

Islam is not a religion of peace.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:03 am

knightmare wrote:Islam is not a religion of peace.

I hate generalizing things, but in this case for the most part I would agree.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:35 pm

well as an update I guess the guy is getting off.

An Afghan Muslim man who converted to Christianity now seems unlikely to be tried or executed for the crime of rejecting Islam, thus heading off a rapidly escalating confrontation between the Kabul government and its Western military and financial backers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01113.html