No, but when a band records in a house in order to harness the negative energy, it sends up a red flag. Or possessing an object of such nature. They crave power.
What kind of ghosthunter are you? it is basic occult knowledge. You think Jimmy Page bought Aliester crowley's house because it had a nice view of Lochness lake? No... he was able to harness the power & energies there. That is his own self admittance. Such nice energy there, John Bonham strangled on his own vomit in the house.
“"A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer."”
I wonder if Charles Manson will ever be executed or not. He was a very bad dude and comes from the same state.
Pie
I believe I can answer that one Pie ..and no...I do not believe he will ever be executed...execution laws were changed at that time in this state...and he happened to sneak in..just as the change began. The laws, rules, have been changed once again wince then...however...once relieved of the death penalty..it can not be re-enstated.. I used to deliver special delivery letters to Spanns ranch when I worked at the Post Office in Chatsworth...what I saw there...trust me..you do NOT even wanna know
California's got the same quality of Governor as Ohio.
Whatever happened to:
"Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone".
It is ludicrous to suggest that Arnold, the courts, the prosecutors, and the police in any state are without sin. The Innocence Project has shown that.
Augustus wrote:that is not true..first of all process church is not satanic, second manson was never a member
yes manson was not a good person and evil IMO...the guy was just a sick bastard who preyed on people he can manipulate
If you want to argue occult matters in another thread, then thats what we should do. This thread is getting jacked like this.
All of your responses are (A) typical of someone of your background.
I base all of my statements on my knowledge and previous lifestyle, before I gave it up. You can deny everything I say. And I fully expected you to intercede on my statements...
“"A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer."”
Kip Patterson wrote:California's got the same quality of Governor as Ohio.
Whatever happened to:
"Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone".
It is ludicrous to suggest that Arnold, the courts, the prosecutors, and the police in any state are without sin. The Innocence Project has shown that.
Yeah, if were governor I would let everyone out because I stole some octane booster to sniff one time in high school.
Burke wrote:Yeah, if were governor I would let everyone out because I stole some octane booster to sniff one time in high school.
WE R ALL SINNERZ
ROOFLES!
Aside from the sarcasm, you make a good point. Punishment should not be withheld just because the people that are doing the judging/executing are not sinners themselves.
knightmare wrote:If you want to argue occult matters in another thread, then thats what we should do. This thread is getting jacked like this.
All of your responses are (A) typical of someone of your background.
I base all of my statements on my knowledge and previous lifestyle, before I gave it up. You can deny everything I say. And I fully expected you to intercede on my statements...
there nothing to argue...you are simply wrong with your facts.
If you put someone in prison then find out you were wrong, you can release them and try and help get their life back on track.
If you kill someone and then find out you were wrong, it's too late.
If the justice system were perfect, I could support the death penalty. Since it obviously isn't, I oppose it.
I obviously don't have all the facts in this particular case, but some of the evidence (including witness testimony) is seen as somewhat quesitonable by legal experts of a broad range of views/political affiliations.
There is no question in my mind that he did some nasty things as head Crip - just appears that some of these particular charges are...questionable.
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Augustus wrote:one who is not insane and does not accuse everyone they are satanic.
i am sure you think i am a satanist because i listen to heavy metal music, play dungeons & dragons, play online roleplaying games such as Everquest
I don't accuse everyone..
Nobody accused you of being a satanist? Have I? The things you do are kiddie stuff--GH*
Why are you obsessed with what I think is good or evil? Do I break your ballz, because you do not believe certain things.?
Guess you are gonna rally the troops and start a KHC..lol
Burkie, you're off the hook, I just got bumped up to #1
“"A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer."”
Kip Patterson wrote:I believe that there was no death penalty when Manson was convicted. Anyone know for sure?
The supreme court stopped all death penalties from 1968 - 1976. Give or take a year. Reason why Manson is alive today. If John Wayne Gacy did his thing on those range of dates, he'd still be alive today. Thank god he didn't.
I was listening to the radio and they reported that "Tookie" was denied pardon for 2 reasons:
1) He did not ask for forgiveness for the murders he is accused of. Now I can understand this, because asking for forgiveness is an admission of guilt and he's claiming he didnt do it.
2) He refused to turn in other members of the Crips organization. He did not work with law enforcement to rat on his former buddies.
When I heard this, I was like screw that. If I started a lethal organization and later reformed, I would help make right the wrongs I have committed in the past. That includes helping the authorities convict others who were or have been involved. A refusal to do so proves that he does not truly believe that he was wrong in the past, therefore proving that no reform has occurred.
Prey521 wrote:2) He refused to turn in other members of the Crips organization. He did not work with law enforcement to rat on his former buddies.
When I heard this, I was like screw that. If I started a lethal organization and later reformed, I would help make right the wrongs I have committed in the past. That includes helping the authorities convict others who were or have been involved. A refusal to do so proves that he does not truly believe that he was wrong in the past, therefore proving that no reform has occurred.
Say your prayers Took!
If he did that, and was given a stay of execution there would be no point as it would sign his death warrant in prison for being a rat.
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What's sad is that the left media has painted Tookie as some sort of changed man thats for non-violence.......has anyone seen pics of the victims he's killed? Funny they dont talk much about them.......after 26 years these victims just disappear out of memory like they dont even matter any more
Illini25 wrote: The supreme court stopped all death penalties from 1968 - 1976. Give or take a year. Reason why Manson is alive today. If John Wayne Gacy did his thing on those range of dates, he'd still be alive today. Thank god he didn't.
Again, Manson wasn't at the murders scenes. Depending on the state, it's pretty hard to get a death sentence if you weren't there. Doesn't matter that he ordered them.
Thanks for looking up them years though. I wasn't sure on that fact.
Prey521 wrote:What's sad is that the left media has painted Tookie as some sort of changed man thats for non-violence.......has anyone seen pics of the victims he's killed? Funny they dont talk much about them.......after 26 years these victims just disappear out of memory like they dont even matter any more
Do you mind if I ask you what paper or tv new show your watching that shows Williams as a saint?
I've seen none. All accounts I've been either reading or watching, show him as being the a founder of the Crips and mention that indeed it's probably the most feared and violent gang in America. Also mentioned is the murders he was involved with and that he still claims he was innocent. (They all do, don't they?) Then the question of a death sentence for a man who's tried to change the views of American youths.
That's two sides of a coin.
Hard left leaning would mean a hard death senctence years ago. Or life in a gulag.
My 2 sides of the story comment was more of an Iraq War media coverage jab, you shoulda picked that up, since I copied that unnecessary cheap shot from your constant jabs at the Fox anchors
Prey521 wrote:My 2 sides of the story comment was more of an Iraq War media coverage jab, you shoulda picked that up, since I copied that unnecessary cheap shot from your constant jabs at the Fox anchors
Rev. Jesse Jackson wrote: "I think he feels a comfort in his new legacy as a social transformer,"
Alas, he could no more deny what he created.
Hell_Yes
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downhill wrote:Again, Manson wasn't at the murders scenes. Depending on the state, it's pretty hard to get a death sentence if you weren't there. Doesn't matter that he ordered them.
Thanks for looking up them years though. I wasn't sure on that fact.
Not a prob DH. But just to clerify.. Manson was given the death penalty for whatever he did. When the Supreme court suspended the death penalty, everyone was given a aprieve. And once the death penalty was reinstated ('78)...it was basically grand fathered in. One's who were on death row (before '67) were not put back on. So that is the main reason why Manson is still alive to this day.
Becnel said she was planning a memorial service "befitting a statesman" for Sunday or Monday in Los Angeles. She said Williams asked to be cremated and have his ashes spread in South Africa. Foxx and rapper Snoop Dogg are expected to attend, she said.
How many people have died do to the Crips? Not only was he found guilty of his crimes, his legacy as a Crips founder lives on. Ask any parent that lost someone to gang warfare how they feel about his death. More oxygen for me! Yea baby!
The only part that saddens me is that you guys had to give him 3 square for so long.
..and no...I do not believe he will ever be executed...execution laws were changed at that time in this state...and he happened to sneak in..just as the change began. The laws, rules, have been changed once again wince then...however...once relieved of the death penalty..it can not be re-enstated.. I used to deliver special delivery letters to Spanns ranch when I worked at the Post Office in Chatsworth...what I saw there...trust me..you do NOT even wanna know 
The supreme court stopped all death penalties from 1968 - 1976. Give or take a year. Reason why Manson is alive today. If John Wayne Gacy did his thing on those range of dates, he'd still be alive today. Thank god he didn't.
