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whats up guys!
i've got some problems.
first, i'd like to say i have enjoyed reading here. alot of info...
can't say i understand it all... which is why i'm fixin to ask.
you seem like a helpfull bunch (really hope i'm right!)

first... my stats eh'
TCP options string = 020405b40103030101010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 128480
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 1 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 5139.2 kbps (642.4 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 2055.68 kbps (256.96 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 35 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

now... my specs...
Win_Me
Duron 700@773 (awaiting water) Iwill KK266-R
256mb PC166 2x30gb7200 ATA100 (raided)
GeForce 2 MX 32mb
Kensington KNE-30T
with Adelphia Cable comparable to a 28.8modem

guys, i suck at math..
i ain't trying to get ultimate speed... <yet> but...
just one that will allow me to load your site's pages so i can learn.
so i ask you, could ya spoonfeed me just a little?

i did D/L Cablenuts prog. and then the patches for "auto-tweaks"
i guess you'd call em'... i'm not really into straight reg tweaks, i'm no programmer.
anyways, i followed the instructs from Lobo's help page...
but based on my config... and all your experiences...
could you advise what sets of numbers should be proven as decent? i'm all confused, and not able to surf!!!!
:cry:

thanks for any help!
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this was rated at pcpitstop as a reference
Measured Internet Performance
Connection Type:
Cable
.......RatedSpeed /Tested Speed/ Units
Bandwidth Down =1500 /90 Kbits/sec
Bandwidth Up =128 /130 Kbits/sec
Ping Latency= 120/ 96 milliseconds
Receive Buffer Size --- 128480 bytes

i've tried alot of "fixes", where most all seem worse????

seems like the recieve buffer is whats off? tried 32767 also.
is this something else i'm missing?
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Your tweaks look beautiful! You did everything right! you read about it, then you applied it! A+ to you man, way to go!!!!

Really, you don't know how good that will make everyone feel!

Now to your problem. Just a clarification, you loaded the cablenut proggie, and then you downloaded and installed the Speedguide reg patch for WinME or did you just load the CCS file from within the cablenut proggie itself?

Did you also load the Speedguide faster loading of webpages tweak?

If you have done all that then we need to see some speed test results. You can goto http://www.pcpitstop.com and do the internet connection tests. Do the download only for now and post the results here. That way we'll see what your speeds are like. Please use the 5000KB block for the test. I know it says it for extreme bandwidth but it's more accurate in gauging your speed. We just need a rough idea to see where you are anyway.

You say that things seem slow. How slow? You should be getting no less than 200KB's per second on download speeds. You'll get more if your caps are higher. for instance, mine are 5000Kbps down but only 128Kbps up.

You can also post some ping and tracert results if you like so that we may see if there is a latency problem.

Do that and come right back.
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Wow!!! That is good. You did all that on the first try? Took me about 4 tries to get it right.

Welcome to SG. Please stay and make yourself at home. :)

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dudes!!!
i saw 16 readers and not a hit ... i felt stupid!!!
then you guys post that!! WoW!

alright... yes, both the ME, then faster page load patches...
then loaded fast_9x into the reg, of course.. rebooted heh
brothers... this jammie is laggin hardcore..
like 5-7kbps on a download...
but i'll do as you say.... i'm off to pcpitstop.. BRB

and thanks again!!!
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Text Block Size 5000 KB
Download Time 662460 ms
Receive Buffer 128480 bytes
Transmission Speed 60 Kb/s


can you read the desperation in my voice yet?
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Originally posted by N2~O/C
dudes!!!
i saw 16 readers and not a hit ... i felt stupid!!!
then you guys post that!! WoW!

alright... yes, both the ME, then faster page load patches...
then loaded fast_9x into the reg, of course.. rebooted heh
brothers... this jammie is laggin hardcore..
like 5-7kbps on a download...
but i'll do as you say.... i'm off to pcpitstop.. BRB

and thanks again!!!
hopefully you won't be back until I can post this..lol

You whacked the SG patches by loading the CCS file! You either do one or the other. But not both as the CCS reg file overwrites any pre-existing patches, such as speedguides.

It's really up to you which one you want to use. We're here to help with either one. so if you'd like you can reload the SG patch forr WinME and we'll go on from there or you can stick with the CCS reg file which you have loaded now.

Actually, we need to know your caps. your provider should be able to tell you that. It's important for us to know that (you too) so that we get the right patch in for you.
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last ping test was 96
those did'nt seem too bad... i don't know anything about tracert tho. FWIW, my free dial-up and supramax modem got me about the same performance... so i'm freakin'
i figured i was gonna make this modem fly....
off my rooftop. then you guys posted, now i feel a glimmer of hope return...
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based on dslreport.com and everyone who hates this service...
i'm pretty damn certain it's the lowest caps...
1500/128 which... the upload seems good, just the D/L of 90!!!
which is why i pointed at the buffer earlier...
and things, like images... or buttons.. don't always load.
sometimes seems the modem stops.
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ok...do this:

goto MS-DOS prompt and type this:

ping http://www.speedguide.net >ping.txt

this will save the output into the file ping.txt ...makes it easy to post, just copy and paste

next do a tracert:

tracert http://www.speedguide.net >tracert.txt ...same thing as above

do that, post results please
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Originally posted by N2~O/C
based on dslreport.com and everyone who hates this service...
i'm pretty damn certain it's the lowest caps...
1500/128 which... the upload seems good, just the D/L of 90!!!
which is why i pointed at the buffer earlier...
and things, like images... or buttons.. don't always load.
sometimes seems the modem stops.
If those are your caps then yes...downloads are gonna suck compared to most. Man thats really terrible that they have you capped like that on the downloads. But we'll try to help you reach that and to browse a bit faster too.
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At this point, knowing your caps...you need to load the normal cable CCS file in the Cablenut proggie. The fast is for connection that can reach over 4000Kbps. The Normal is for less than 4000Kbps. this should help somewhat. do that and retake analyzer, and then retake speed test at pcpitstop. sorry this takes so long but you're almost done.

Make sure you reboot after saving changes in the Cablenut Adjuster or else the settings will not be in effect!
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sorry dude, i can reformat and reinstall.. but i can't get a ping in DOS.. i dunno why?
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time is irrelevent... i ain't goin no where... fast anyways! heh
did the ccs change to normal-9x

TCP options string = 020405b401010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 64240
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 2569.6 kbps (321.2 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1027.84 kbps (128.48 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 35 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000


speed test next, with crossed fingers
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Post by JawZ »

Originally posted by N2~O/C
sorry dude, i can reformat and reinstall.. but i can't get a ping in DOS.. i dunno why?
so you went to the MS-DOS prompt found in the start menu under bla, blah, blah...and when you type ping.speedguide.net you got nothing in the output file? search your HDD for ping.txt...same for tracert...if not there then let me know!

again type exactly:

ping http://www.speedguide.net >ping.txt

you won't see the ping results on the screen because they are being put into an output file called ping.txt which is saved on your HDD
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i will type ping http://www.speedguide.net >ping.txt
with them spaces.. then search... if found, i'll do tracert.
here's speeds...
Text Block Size 5000 KB
Download Time 288250 ms
Receive Buffer 64240 bytes
Transmission Speed 139 Kb/s
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one other thing...are you using IE5.x? If so please make sure you are not using a proxy, I don't think you are but check just to be sure...goto tools, internet options, connections, lan settings, and make sure nothing is checked.

also, you are using a NIC right? Thats the Kensington piece in your sys specs corret? Have you checked that to make sure it is in auto mode and not half duplex or anything like that? Are you using any kind of home networking where a router or hub is in place?
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net"space">ping.txt heh... been a long day.


Pinging http://www.speedguide.net [161.58.189.81] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 161.58.189.81: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=243

Reply from 161.58.189.81: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=243

Reply from 161.58.189.81: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=243

Reply from 161.58.189.81: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=243



Ping statistics for 161.58.189.81:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 82ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 86ms

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tracing route to http://www.speedguide.net [161.58.189.81]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms 10.1.208.1

2 27 ms 55 ms 28 ms 64.8.1.193

3 41 ms 41 ms 55 ms 64.8.1.198

4 55 ms 55 ms 41 ms so-2-1-0.ar2.CLE1.gblx.net [64.211.111.85]

5 41 ms 41 ms 28 ms pos4-0-622M.cr2.CLE1.gblx.net [206.132.111.161]

6 54 ms 69 ms 68 ms pos2-0-2488m.cr2.CHI1.gblx.net [208.49.59.254]

7 55 ms 54 ms 42 ms 208.49.59.210

8 55 ms 55 ms * p1-0-15.r00.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.9.117]

9 69 ms 55 ms 54 ms p1-1-0.r00.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.17]

10 69 ms 110 ms 68 ms p4-2-1-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.250]

11 83 ms 68 ms 83 ms p16-7-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.158]

12 69 ms 96 ms 82 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.184]

13 41 ms 55 ms 41 ms 161.58.156.173

14 82 ms 83 ms 82 ms 161.58.189.81



Trace complete.
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using a proxy, nope...nothing is checked.

also, you are using a NIC right? Thats the Kensington piece in your sys specs correct? Have you checked that to make sure it is in auto mode and not half duplex or anything like that? Are you using any kind of home networking where a router or hub is in place?

will have a router, in a few days. i'm afraid to LAN now!!!
but no, nothing at all...
Kensington NIC, to modem, to out.

i don't know nothin bout duplexes bro! how can i check?
this is my first time messin with any of it!
just had it installed this afternoon, been P~O'ed all evenin'
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Your latency is fair...it's not great and it aint awful. your not getting any packet loss, good sign. But it looks like some of the hops along your path are just not outstanding. they aren't awful but alot of fluctuations. I just did the same and here is a problem hop:

12 138 ms 138 ms 137 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.105]
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OK, that looks good now for your tweaks with Cablenut;

I want you to redo the faster loading of web pages tweak.

to make sure you did it right the first time, you downloaded the tweak from SG, then you unzipped the file which opened up a new folder with one reg file inside. You right clicked on it and you pointed to "merge" correct? That merged the tweak with your registry. You have to reboot for changes to take effect. Do that again just to be sure you did it right and then come back and let me know how surfing feels.
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it was'nt merge, but "install" rather... i'll look for merge.

can ya define a "problem hop" so i can get some idea, just briefly perhaps?
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nope, install no merge
pepsi, no coke... same thing right?
hows this look?

TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 51 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000
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Originally posted by N2~O/C
it was'nt merge, but "install" rather... i'll look for merge.

can ya define a "problem hop" so i can get some idea, just briefly perhaps?
nope..you are right...I am wrong..install...I keep forgetting the difference with all these tweaks lol. :D

problem hops are those routers that may have some sort of problem due to many many variables. i just wanted to see if my route to the same destination provided similar results. It did and it didn't. I'm at work right now so I'm on dial up. I just wanted to see how consistent my times were along the path to SG. My hops were fairly consistent throughout until that particular hop. Now it isn't bad by any account and neither are yours. If you jumped up to say 600+ ms from one of your last hops to the next, that would tell us that there is a problem. But that didn't happen. the fluctuations are simply due to the traffic on the net at that particular time in cyberspace.

How is surfing right now? faster, slower, no change?
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this is the cable bandwidth but...

Text Block Size 200 KB
Download Time 7190 ms
Receive Buffer 256960 bytes
Transmission Speed 223 Kb/s

best i've seen yet!
not exactly what i had been expecting however.
it does'nt seem right, does it?
223 out of 1500 at 2:00am
i think i'm gettin' ripped off pretty bad, for $40.00/mo.
maybe i'm crazy, maybe just greedy,
but nevertheless, my dial-up was free!
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honestly better... but still delayed.
not nearly AS BAD!!! heheh
i swear to ya, i did see D/L time at pcpitstop....
of 12kbps on 200kb D/L
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Lets see another pcpitstop speed test.

when you test make sure you empty your IE cache/temp folder, limit background programs like antivirus, ICQ, AIM or anything else running in the systray.

I see you loaded the normal for cable CCS file but did you put in the 256960 value for RWIN? If so test with that and then try the other multiples as suggested by the analyzer. keep retesting and pick the one that gives you the best speed.

All in all, I think you have the best that you are gonna get based upon your caps which really is the limiting factor here. Do you have a choice in providers either cable or DSL? I would investigate my options if I were you. 1500Kbps down is just wrong! lol I feel for ya man.
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256960 was there from the ccs...
i did'nt change nuthin'!

i'll be on the phone tomorrow, and holler back to you when/if i get a straight answer on caps...

i'll need more info on changing #'s before i touch em'. had enough of a nightmare already.

speed test it is...brb

well, not "right" back... but eventually back.
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I would leave everything as is until we verify your caps. But yeah, a call to adelphia is warranted. Just be nice. You'll get more help that way. Also save those ping and tracert results as you can use them as evidence if the need arises. You can ping and tracert to any site, so try different sites and see what you come up with, just remeber to name each output differently, ie, ping. txt, ping2.txt, ping3.txt, same goes for tracert. That way you won't overwrite your previous results.
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Text Block Size 5000 KB
Download Time 338350 ms
Receive Buffer 256960 bytes
Transmission Speed 118 Kb/s


yea... it'll be hard to be nice about this....

i dunno .. i'm going to scope out the website for a cap "statement" then check dslreports for Adelphia, maybe someone there might know something...

i'll be back.
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here's a quote...
Through our hybrid fiber-coaxial cable infrastructure and high-speed cable modems, Adelphia´s customers get a quick, secure connection to the World Wide Web. Our state-of-the-art broadband technology combined with quality customer service makes us your best choice for high-speed Internet service.

We´re FAST!
With Adelphia, you´ll experience upstream data transfer speeds of up to 128 kilobits per second (Kbps)* and downstream data transfer speeds of up to 3 megabits per second (Mbps). Click here for a demonstration.

Actual speeds will vary. Issues affecting downstream data speed include overall network traffic, your computer´ performance and configuration, access of non-cached or cached data, location and configuration of the accessed server, performance characteristics of network components, quantity of users, and all users´ compliance with the Adelphia Acceptable use policy.

how does this figure???
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lmao... check this out!!!

http://powerlink.adelphia.net/speedtips/index.html

i just know i'll be telling these monkeys to come sweep up the pieces of this modem from beneath my 2nd story window.

despite trying to be nice, theres only so much any informed person can stand!
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with the laws in the U.S. and Canada the cable or DSL looking at what you are doing with your internet is not legal,so they can not say you are getting to much, they would be over the line. the law say they can own see if you are adding to many people to your line.
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Originally posted by N2~O/C
We´re FAST!
With Adelphia, you´ll experience upstream data transfer speeds of up to 128 kilobits per second (Kbps)* and downstream data transfer speeds of up to 3 megabits per second (Mbps). Click here for a demonstration.
It doesn't...this is your argument. Did you install this yourself or did they come out?

3Mbps...you should be flying...even if you only got 2Mbps. Hell 1.5Mbps is DSL and that's way faster than what you are getting.

Do this. goto http://www.aol.com and download aol6.0. Don't install just download it. Tell me what it says as far as how fast you d/l'd the program. You can just delete it when you are finished. AOL has a hellafast server...good for gauging speeds.
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i don't know what that statement was about legalities.. could'nt quite decipher.. anyways, it's late.

ok, i'll gauge the D/L then cancel... i don't want that cancer on my box, installed or otherwise! communicable diseases and such!

they came out, i can't even blame this one on myself!
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if your advertised caps are 3Mbps...then reload fast CCS file. thats all you have to do. Reload that sucka and jack up the RWIN in the adjuster from 128480 to 513920. You'll see it in the adjuster as it will be the only number there that big. Right under it, lower TTL from 48 to 32. Leave everything else as is. Save to registry and reboot. Retest at PCPitstop. Let me know how it goes. I forgot to tell you to change it since your caps are 3Mbps and 128Kbps.
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right on bro...
i was thinking that too, but ya said wait on settings...

anyway, while D/L'ing...
153Kb/sec. only thing running was yahoo companion
<email alert>
so i shut the browser.
dropped to 20.7Kb/sec.
it was there, and i was at 23min.40sec. est. remaining,
1.45mb of 29.1 and Not hardly moving.

next tweak comin' up....
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okay, i see dudes point now.
frankly, i don't care what anyone sees, i'll tweak my O/S as i please... and add other boxes as soon as my router gets here. the cap still exists, and i pay dearly for what i get.
anyways, here's this...
TCP options string = 020405b40103030301010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 513920
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 3 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 20556.8 kbps (2569.6 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 8222.72 kbps (1027.84 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 19 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

look correct? good? speed next...
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N2_OC
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Post by N2_OC »

things are lookin' up!
Text Block Size 5000 KB
Download Time 34930 ms
Receive Buffer 513920 bytes
Transmission Speed 1145 Kb/s

you are officially N2's "Man of the Month" and officially in the running for "Dude of the Year"

way better than the installer dude tellin me
200kbps D/L was ok and just busy... eh'
in fact, he did say 500 was the normal speed.

this dude was a CompUSA employee,
so i knew not to even bother.
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Post by JawZ »

Yeah...that look sweet, in fact thats exactly what I have so I know you got it right. Thats why I gave it to you cause you have a machine that is just like mine, almost to a T.

do the PCpitstop test again. and shutdown everything running in the background.

I do have another couple of optimizations that you can make to your system unless you already know abou them.

Do you have DMA checked in your HDD settings?

Do you have puter set as network server?

Do you have System restore diabled?

All these things will speed you up, not necessarily the connection but Windows in general, but it adds up. I have several other tips so let me know.
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