dslreports.com the good, bad, and the ugly.

cablenut · Post by **cablenut** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:20 am

I just wanted to share with all you nice speedguide.net users my encounters with dslreports.com staff and forum. Orginally back in the day when Cablenut was only a .reg patch and had some wild settings

. I had posted on dslreports.com forums about my patch and immediatly got shotdown by people (which including some of the staff) about my settings how crappy my settings were and other various disrespectful remarks. Well I then left their forums forever only to return a few months later looking through previous posts of members/staff I noticed they had not quit on making bad comments about my program hell every revision they were quick to the draw to rip it apart with their opinions (quote: opinions are *******s) I quickly put up a big post regarding how disrespectful they had been to me and how my program is still today *freeware* I'm sure all of you know by now how much time it takes the Cablenut team to give you guys settings. I am never going to charge for Cablenut unlike dslreports charging for their speedtest now. I can tell you right now I wouldn't pay for their speedtest it is inaccurate as with their tweak tester. Back to the point they were quick on the trigger to say they were sorry and I give them respect for that, but hence just after their sorries they still said discourging things about my program so I give up. I believe they have brainwashed their whole dslreport forum users into one program and one track mind when it comes to tweaks. It is communism over there. "Use DrTCP don't use those messy speedguide.net or Cablenut patches!!". Yes they have talked bad about other patches not just mine to. I just bring this message to anyone thinking of tweaking their broadband connection to use the alternative speedguide.net or others. I strive hard to bring perfection to where there is none

A last note if one of the dslreport.com users feel disrespected in this post I am sorry I just wanted to tell everyone what the people are really like over there. I know the dslreports.com people work hard to!

Good Night,
Cablenut

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Savagerb · Post by **Savagerb** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:06 am

Do they really think they're gonna make money?I mean who needs a software?Most of us knows how things work.And i learned it here just by reading the forums.We're just trying to find the best settings for our connection.Thanx for the patches.Cablenut v2.5 is a very good piece of software.

blebs99 · Post by **blebs99** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 7:29 am

It is getting beyond unbelievable on DSL Reports. To charge for using speedtests, come on! The public access page is alway's clogged and now they want you to pay on the private tools page. I'm sorry, there are to many other free test sites and some of them rival the results that I used to get on theirs. I'll just stick with Netstat Live!

Cablenut-I know what you mean about the bad mouthing of patches. It's not just yours or Speedguides! They get all bent out of shape if you don't take what they say as "Gospel" about tweaking. I hate to tell them but, I tried their way before I ever found Speedguide and their way just didn't work out for me. I would like to know what is wrong with the "mindset" over there? No one, to my knowledge, has ever bad mouthed their members or their site, on Speedguide.net. In fact, we have even refered some people to use their facilities. What is wrong with them? The growth factor must have pushed'em over the edge of reality.

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BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:00 am

HAH! Well, I ain't paying for their freaking tools. I find them a useful, though not perfect, tool but I sure in the heck am not paying for it. Expecially when there are *plenty* of other sites that offer similar tools.

I don't even use their forums. Why should I when I have have SpeedGuide?

DSL Reports just lost a longtime customer and some one who hit their site hundreds of times a week. Bye bye DSLR.

I am going back one last time to request my account be removed from their database.

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Duzmor · Post by **Duzmor** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:27 am

Has Anyone noticed that you can only test your speed 3 - that is 3 times a day with DSLreports
Have A great Day
Duzmor

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:28 am

The power of the People and the Internet is an amazing thing. If we all join in, we can change things. This is what I did: http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/010897.html

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blebs99 · Post by **blebs99** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:48 am

Originally posted by Duzmor:
Has Anyone noticed that you can only test your speed 3 - that is 3 times a day with DSLreports
Have A great Day
Duzmor

Yes! The best part is, every time I've tried since the beginning of this week, I've been told that I exceeded my limit! Funny, I couldn't even test but, I exceeded my limit.
There IP address logger must be on some strong drugs!

Duzmor · Post by **Duzmor** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:14 am

Try www.bandwidthplace.com not Very Accurate but its acool site

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:20 am

Try the HUNDREDS of test sites at: http://www.testmyspeed.com/

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-Jim

Garrett67 · Post by **Garrett67** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:05 am

without going into a long thing here....
Thanks Cablenut, I am sure I speak for everyone here in say that we are greatful for the time you take to create your product and for the fact you are not charging for it.

RicRogue · Post by **RicRogue** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:36 am

Someone start a petition. Only instead of saying how they need to change, lets notify them that we argoing to quit using the service they provide.

Just an Idea,

RicRogue

StanFL · Post by **StanFL** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:38 am

BlueJetta,

Thanks for the "testmyspeed" link. That's one of the more useful things I've ever seen here (didn't know about that one).

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:39 am

Well I guess I agree with the above, Pay, Someone has got a case of de big head, it was alright while it lasted, but I quess it time to turn loose the lagg spikes on them

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:43 am

DSLReports whole attitude and stuff reminds me of Navas, lol

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My site www.coremeltdown.com

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 1:17 pm

Originally posted by StanFL:
BlueJetta,

Thanks for the "testmyspeed" link. That's one of the more useful things I've ever seen here (didn't know about that one).

Stick around awhile. It definitely will not be the last. I have learned so much at this website. SG is a good place to be. Lost of knowledge, drama, humor and just the right amount of weirdness to make the world go round!

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 1:28 pm

Mr. Cableguy, er I meam Cablenut, I have a idea, have Dannjr turn over the running of his pooter store to someone else, and open up a free place where we can send people to test. You can get sponsers to help out with de funding (NASCAR, NFL, JELLO, SOAP0 things like that and with all the people we send your way some of them will help out your sponsers, Please no porn. Now if you can drag Danny Jr. away from dat store where he counts all the loot he makes from selling pooters, that will leave you time to make patchs and us with a place to send people for
some results. Just a idea.

blebs99 · Post by **blebs99** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 7:45 pm

Originally posted by BlueJetta:
Stick around awhile. It definitely will not be the last. I have learned so much at this website. SG is a good place to be. Lost of knowledge, drama, humor and just the right amount of weirdness to make the world go round!

I don't think anyone could have said it better! This is exactly why I love this site.

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:31 pm

Ya Baby.

See the surprises I have to deal with all the time...
I go away for a couple of days and come back to this great thread.
Now if I could convince Sprint to give me the ION connection then I would be even happier.
Cause then we could ftp this stuff back and forth faster and even get more done with less sleep for the cablenut.exe..

Burnin up the box through the Internet.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:35 pm

He's back

JustinDSLR · Post by **JustinDSLR** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:58 pm

Hello, everything on the net should be free, right-on dudes, power to the people. Unfortunately, someone has to pay the bill.

If you want to do 20 speed tests a day, doesnt matter where you do it, its costing the host $20 a month in bandwidth. Our test is used by thousands of people an hour and cost the partners who operate the server 14 thousand bucks a month in bandwidth, for that they get nothing other than their name showing up.. and since @home users (the test addicts) are unlikely to switch to a high quality and much more expensive DSL line, there is minimal marketing value to them.

All we did was to limit the number of daily requests by IP address (since if we limit by user account, many of you guys would just register 10 accounts).

If someone wants to test once or twice a day they are very welcome as ever, all will work ok on the west coast tests. If you want to try your luck on the east coast test you probably got server busy. C'est la vie. If you want priority access, its 5c a shot, which is under cost price.

If someone wants to test dozens of times per day I suggest they should go leech off MSN or one of the other lower quality test servers until they shut it down or restrict it due to over-use, as they inevitably will.

The posting hysteria over (optional) subscriptions from a tiny minority of users is crazy, I've seen the same posts as these on the boards of every site that introduces any kind of premium services .. those who get into a panic over the idea that good things cost money better relax otherwise they're going to get an ulcer over the what will happen to the net during the next year and onwards.. its just economics: enjoy napster and warez and banner disabling hacks and spending dozens of hours of your own time to avoid paying a cent, one way or another you DO pay. if your time is nearly worthless to you, then there is obviously still ways to get everything you demand, but its getting harder by the month.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:35 pm

@home addicts, WTF, I'm just trying to help people get their computrs running better, I don't get paid, I'm not sending someone over to someplace they might have to pay. Man I think that last guy should write "The State of the Union Address" fer "Read my Lips Jr" but I think I will have to go along with Cablenut & Dannjr on this one, just my 2 cents

cablenut · Post by **cablenut** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:38 pm

JustinDSLR,

Thanks for posting. I could run into a long story on how really poor me and JonG are right now. Honestly people don't care though. I believe if you want to charge money for something make it a good service to use. I understand your frustration against people who are disregarding some of your services I have the same happen to me (usually it happens allot more on the DLSR forums). The summary of your post:

We are charging for services and if you don't like it take a hike!

Fine with me I don't use your services anyway.

Have a good day,
Cablenut

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John · Post by **John** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:13 pm

I am going to have to agree with Justin on this one- bandwidth costs money. Unless he starts getting more/or better ads and more money flowing in to him and his partners he won't be able to afford to even keep the test up. If you don't like the fee, then don't use it! There are better ways of testing download speeds.

I have used it myself, and noticed some inconsistencies. Test your speeds by downloading from different fast servers, for these are the true speeds you will be getting on the 'net! Who cares what your speeds are in a slightly controlled environment, when there will be 100 variables affecting your speeds in everyday internet activity?

John

BobDSL · Post by **BobDSL** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:29 pm

Originally posted by TeenInternetAddict:
I tried their DR TCP patch and it didn't work, except to remove some good settings I had, and made my connection slow. I tried Cablenut's patch, and it worked for me! How do I get my dslreports' account removed?

When I wrote a bad review on RR, and the service being slow after school, peak time, and weekends, this one person told me, "You don't how cable modem technology works!" And another one says, "Your six neighbors doesn't have nothing to do with your speeds!" I do, too, know how cable modem technology works, because I read about it from here at speedguide and other CM related sites

I'm not going to dslreports anymore, forget it! I ain't paying money to use any speed test on the net, when speed tests can be find for free. Their speed tests are limited to 3 times a day, and so inaccurate!

This forum is full of nice, intelligent people I ever met online. As for dslreports, the people over there are braindead, and dumb, who believes that the glory of tweaks will speed your connection up, you pay $40 for cheap, high speed internet, etc.(Iam sorry if I offended any dslrpt users).

You hit the nail on the head, cablenut!

Helen

DrTCP is NOT a patch, is is a program that lets you set certain values in your registry to "tweak" your connection without going in there. Also I'm not braindead, niether is anyone else there or here.

Scoot · Post by **Scoot** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:48 pm

I think it was pretty courageous of Justin to defend his website here amongst a bunch of immature whiners.
I started coming to speedguide to learn how to tweak my cable connection and was referred to Dslreports for the online tweak and speedtests. I have found useful information at both sites.
Lately there has been a growing base of immature people on the board here at SG and I am sure I am not the only one to see a lack of knowledgeable people frequenting the forums.
Sending nasty E-mails and starting flame wars with negative threads will do nothing to promote learning which is what these forums were designed for.
I suggest people refrain from name calling and start studying how they can improve their connection.
Cablenut has done lot's of great work on the patches and the same can be said for the tweak forum at Dslreports. DrTcp is nothing more than a simple way to edit the parameters in your registry to fine tune your connection.
It is up to you to learn what will work best for you.
Let us not let a few rotten apples spoil the spirit of learning that used to exist in this forum.

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Quest for Knowledge

cornbread · Post by **cornbread** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 12:26 am

thanks Duzmor, cool link!

later

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 12:36 am

Well, I have seen only one person commit any name calling here and that was TeenInternetAddict, so to group us all into that mess is unfair. In addition, I searched around in here and didn't see any flame wars on this subject. Maybe I missed a thread. This is quite a vibrant subject and discussion, but far from any flame wars.

And finally, I am the only one who admitted and pubically posted the email I sent to DSLR (as of this writing) and it was absolutely not nasty in any way, shape or form, so that is an untrue statement.

I do agree that it's courageous for John and Bob to hop on here and defend their position. I understand their position and why they are charging for "premium" services.

I'm not real impressed with John's (DSLR) condescending attitude, but I guess I can understand why he is mad, though the public's reaction should have been expected.

DSLR is a well run website and I wish them luck in this shaky Internet and general economy. I do hope they can survive it all and I am sure a lot of thought and angst went into their decision.

And I have made my decision not to frequent their site. Freedom is a pretty cool thing.

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-Jim

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 2:15 am

Originally posted by John:
I am going to have to agree with Justin on this one- bandwidth costs money. Unless he starts getting more/or better ads and more money flowing in to him and his partners he won't be able to afford to even keep the test up. If you don't like the fee, then don't use it! There are better ways of testing download speeds.

I have used it myself, and noticed some inconsistencies. Test your speeds by downloading from different fast servers, for these are the true speeds you will be getting on the 'net! Who cares what your speeds are in a slightly controlled environment, when there will be 100 variables affecting your speeds in everyday internet activity?

John

Justin And John have said it well

Kudo's to you all for not falling into the general whinning of this thread

Even though me or you may not like it facts are facts, bandwith costs money, and lots of it. As many hits as DSLReports gets a day i'm not suprised their bandwith usage is extremely high. Somebody's gotta pay for that bandwith, if if it's the people raping the bandwith then the people need to pay for the bandwith they are taking up. You or I may not like it but that's how it is, plain and simple.

They aren't charging an arm and a leg here, it's a very small amount, and if it aids in the consistancy and speed and accuracy of the test then i'm all for it! A very small fee for an accurate speed test is worth it IMO.

But now however if you pay the money and the speed test is still not accurate then that could be a problem. But you also have to remember everyone's path and routes to the test servers is different. So many variables effect speed.

The BEST way to chack your speed is to check it DIRECTLY with your FIRST HOP, as long as you have a GREAT connection and speed with your FIRST HOP then everything past that can not be quarenteed as it passes through other's people's routers, and if there is a problem with them you must contact them...

Anyways

keep it cool guys

Lets all stay happy and keep helping each other out

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My site www.coremeltdown.com

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:58 am

My point is that today it's a nickel, tomorrow it's a dime and next month it will be a quarter. Just like that 'temporary tax' that has been added to our phone bills for over 100 years for the Spanish-American freaking war!

No one here is disputing the fact that bandwidth costs money, but then again, no one is holding a gun to the DSLR staff's collective heads and forcing them to provide anything, much less some bandwidth test.

And if DSLR's charge for one test is a 'hit' then why not charge for this other test and that test and then...Oh yeah...Charge for access to the forum. And we just fold over and pay? No thank you.

And then SpeedGuide starts charging too? And then that site and this other site and oh yeah, that site too. This is a bad snowball that needs to be stopped.

But anyway, I think that Brent makes a very excellent point when he said: "The BEST way to check your speed is to check it DIRECTLY with your FIRST HOP, as long as you have a GREAT connection and speed with your FIRST HOP then everything past that can not be guaranteed as it passes through other's people's routers, and if there is a problem with them you must contact them..."

It cannot be said ANY better than that.

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Buggyman · Post by **Buggyman** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 1:57 pm

The Following comments are mine alone and comes from a being newbie into this world of High Speed Internet. I have only know Lobo and Cablenut a few days.
Did I miss something?
When I was told about dslreports a couple weeks ago, I went to it and have use it numerous times since then. There was nothing about a fee to use it. The first time I was limited to it was the other night when Lobo helped me tweat my PC and when I when to check it out I had done met my 3 times limits for the day.
And Lobo is my witness. I tried for two days to use a patch with SpeedGuide with no luck in even getting to the download site. I then went to Cablenuts site and got his patch instantly. and gotmost of my problems resolved in a matter of minutes.
My Hats off to Cablenut for a job well done.
dslreports! you need to get your acts together before charging any fees. People will not pay for bad service. Advertisors will not advertise on bad websites.
SpeedGuide! I'm willing to work with you to find out why I could not get to ANY of the patches on you patch site.
Once again My hats off to Lobo and thanks to Cablenut for putting out a product that works.

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Storm90 · Post by **Storm90** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:26 pm

As for my opinion on DLS site. They can charge all they want.I don't consider there site accurate on any of the test. So I don't use it. I use Netstayalive from www.analogx.com. It always gives me the right readings for my speed even when I am not on the net. If they want to charge let them. I am just thankful there are a lot of sites that don't charge. Like this site here for tweaks and cablnuts site. I figure most of your online speed test are not accurate any way. To many people using them plus most of the are to far a way from me to give me a accurate rate of my speed. That I have. Just like going to different web sites and downloading. This varies to because they all use different servers. I like the tool I use cause if there is a problem with my connection I can tell right away. No offense to anyone this just my Opinion.

mballardDSLR · Post by **mballardDSLR** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:36 pm

Choosing to charge for usage of the DSL speed tests beyond three was not an arbitrary decision we came too, we didn't want to charge, but we didn't have much choice. Currently, the West Coast speed tests are being provided for basically free by MegaPath and LinkLine, and MegaPath said something when the usage hit 14 megabit/sec on average, which is a lot of bandwidth. We have been restricting the usage of the nac.net east coast test for a while when the server is busy because it is also our main web server. In order to be able to continue providing the West Coast test, we had to restrict the usage of the speed tests, but we didn't want to stop people from using it more than that if they wanted to, but only if they paid for it beyond that point. We have no desire to charge for any other part of the site, which Justin and most people on the site is vehemently against. The other tests don't use anywhere close to the amount of bandwidth as the speed tests, so there is no reason to charge for them. If the bandwidth usage wasn't so high, we wouldn't charge for using the speed tests at all.

By the way, the $.05 speed test suggestion beyond three was brought up by another member in the first place, and in relation to the analogy of not holding a gun to our head to provide the speed test, we're not forcing you to use the speed test either, but saying the site is bad just because we are charging for the usage of one incredibly bandwidth intensive test beyond three times a day...

In relation to the @home comment, it is because @home are the highest users, and frequently abusers of the test, because a number of people (I'm not saying it's anyone here or there or in particular, just a number of people) will use the speed test on a sometimes more than daily basis just to say I got this speed result, in a bragging form of way. The test was created for people to help find out there speeds, and test improvements, but doing it just to say you have this high speed all the time...

[This message has been edited by mballardDSLR (edited 01-28-2001).]

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:42 pm

Read my lips, DSLR I'm done with you so bye

Storm90 · Post by **Storm90** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:45 pm

I am not saying it is bad. It just does not suit my needs. I am really to far away from it. To get a accurate speed rating that's all. But maybe some people who are closer do benefit from it. If you need to charge then do so. All I was saying is it dose not benefit my needs.

BlueJetta · Post by **BlueJetta** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 4:01 pm

I know I never said that the site was bad because you are charging. And I was going to add one more comment here mballard, but I see you edited that part out of your post, so I guess that's a moot point.

I think what shocked me about this whole thing is that there was no notice. Just all of a sudden things had changed and we see this thing about being charged for this and that and setting up an account and I know I was surprised -- shocked.

But, anyway, we're just beating a dead horse here. You're gonna charge and I ain't going to your site anymore, if nothing else yes, to prove a point. You have the right to charge and I have the right not to click.

I'm not gonna pee on your guy's cornflakes. I think DSLR is a great site and I never said it sucked or any of that nonsense. But, not visiting your site is not going to change my life either, and neither will my not going there destroy DSLR.

See. It's that freedom thing again.

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BobDSL · Post by **BobDSL** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:48 pm

How can anyone say that the speed tests aren't accurate. They give your real world results, as someone else here said, "everyone downloads from different servers". Most of the servers that one would download from are not going to be right next door. If you want to see "good" speed test results got to one of those other crappy sites and let it tell you that your speed is 18mb/s.

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:29 am

Hi BobDSL
How can anyone say the speed test isn’t accurate. Just in the mannerism that you put everyone else’s down just shows how one sided your going to be. Lets keep in mind BobDSL your not the only game in town. Nobody’s perfect I guess..
If you want to find your speed averages then use a program on your computer, of what’s coming in on the connection in real time. At the same time you can learn to use a packet sniffer to find out how your connection is really doing..
Dslreports says there not going to give you a 100% read anyway.. But I guess I must of missed something there..
As far as you charging for the speed test I don’t use them anymore I occasionally use Pcpitstop during a packet sniff on the extreme test and compare the results.
The funny thing about Pcpitstops test, it reports the Rwin correct most of the time then not..
Lets see about another thing, and the reason I don’t frequent dslreports. As most people know around here. I don’t ask many questions I think I have asked maybe one, in all the time I have been coming here to Speedguide..
Why is it the one and only time I went there to help out my comments had been edited out. There was no fowl language there was a link to Speedguide, to the forum that had information to back up what I said but that had been taken out. Then a question was made to me out of contents to what my original statement was..
Did you ever think that some of the people you have been editing out at dslreports may be a contributor or someone related to one of your sponsors.
I would back dslreports more if they didn’t play the games, but you do. Hum just think I can probably go into just about any post here at random and find something about dslreports and not find any words edited out here on Speedguide.
Next the bashing over there, its BS. Don’t you think sponsors look for that.
Negativity is a big contributor to weather or not you get a sponsor, and how things are handled with the general public.
Oh lets hit on one more thing. Your cost’s. Well I’m sorry things are getting tough I hope they get better and that you get some sponsors.
I also would hope that when you do get them that you remember the little people that helped build your dslreports.
Lastly Justin himself practically said the speed tests there have problems.
I believe it was on this thread..
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,385307;root=beeble;mode=flat
Probably get edited out now.
The thing is. I know there are costs in what goes on at dslreports there not cheap nor does it work by itself. Someone has to keep an eye on the store.
Personally I wish you would take the speed test down. It would take a lot of controversy out of things, and concentrate on a packet sniffer that can be used directly on a persons machine. That can be read in the forums, or by a persons ISP in plain English. But I guess the cablenut team will have to develop that to, while we get bashed at dslreports. The sad fact of it all is there are only a few of us out here on the web doing this type of stuff and rather than anyone helping out from dslreports they would rather make everyone around them look bad..

To dslreports I truly hope all gets better
Dan
Just my .02

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dannjr@cablenut.com
Speedguide has a great search engine

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dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:17 am

Sorry I had to edit the last post my word prosssessor didn't catch all the bad grammer.

JonG · Post by **JonG** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:43 am

Although time and time again I've told myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread I feel I probably should at this point.
I don't mind criticism, not the least bit, especially if its positive or at the very least helpful. The users here at Speedguide have always been able to give us concise answers to the problems they are having with our tweaks and software.
I took the time to read through some of the dslr forum postings, some of which simply said, "Use us, not them" when referring to (but not limited to) the cablenut tweaks.
I prefer constructive criticism, not destructive----perhaps thats just my opinion. We're only here trying to help out users who just want to access the internet faster-nothing more. If nothing can be done to help us in some way shape or form than cause this thread, then don't bother DSLR.

[quote]Cablenut v2.5 is a very good piece of software. [quote]

I agree, I personally like the v2.5 of the Cablenut software. We're bringing that nice-friendly user-interface back in 4.0 because I know you guys enjoyed it. Well, I'm done here.

----JonG
"Those who would forget the past are condemned to repeat it."

RobFromDSLR · Post by **RobFromDSLR** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:44 am

Hrm... At least DSLR let visitors to post without asking them to register. Oh well...

I've got DSL. I've used DSLR's Dr.TCP. I've used SpeedGuide.net's patch. The truth? Both don't do s#!t to improve my DSL connection.

You know... We can sit here all year long debating which tweaks work and which ones don't. It is up to the individual users to decide which tweak/patch works for oneself.

Maybe it's time to stop all this nonsense.