[H]=sellouts

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:40 pm

http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showthre ... genumber=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... genumber=1

Hmm, interesting.

Edit:found this too, http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6290

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:04 pm

thats been explained already

a score had to be changed in the 3dmark results, it was inputted wrong at first... it turned out to be like 300 or something 3dmarks lower then the orignal score

kyle forgot to put a noteation in the review that he changed it

one person, JCViggin who has wanted to take revenge on hardocp (long story there) started this whole mess, his minions and him made up false acusations and photochoped a graph to bring [H] down

he got what he wanted, praise and people singing up on his forums

there is no conspiracy, kyle is not being paid by Intel,

and the result that was changed doesn't effect the outcome and conclusion, it still shows the HT P4 right where it was....

and kyle made a big apology on the front page friday....

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:52 pm

after visiting their forums a long time ago under my own namesake, I found the place to be a big pool of nagging teenagers whos parents bought them all their part (but there were a few creative and intelligent individuals there, however the lots of mass idiots kind of crowded them out). I didn't really have anything bad to say about the other reviewers and the only reason I went to the place was to see Brents reviews when he posted them here. I know from the help he's given to people here at our tech forums that he is a skilled enthusiast and knows his stuff.

As for this whole hullaballu, I have two things to say.
1.) Brent, don't take any posts here as an attack on you. Though you may work for [H]ardOCP, you are not them as they are not you. Yes you may be a vital part to their success, but they are not vital to your own success.

2.) Kyle Bennet obviously made a mistake in allowing mass banning of people. It just isn't done and he took the path which all powerful people take. From what I've read and gathered from individual peoples, I've found this situation to be quite disgusting and am glad to be a part of Speedguide.net.

Mr White · Post by **Mr White** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:08 pm

Sounds we got some lamers in our midst..

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:19 pm

kyle doesnt know how to handle a problem, i believe what he posted on teh site abotu the review, but anytime theres a problem and the posters at [H] are right but negative, he bans them, then fixes the issue.

brent and steve do good jobs on reviews, i wouldnt believe them to doctor anything. maybe if kyle postes in one of the threads and was like, sorry we're fixing teh error now and stuff it would have gone smoother. i know i dont always remember what OC i'm running on all my stuff everytime, its an easy mistake to make.

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:32 pm

Originally posted by Mr White
Sounds we got some lamers in our midst..

Excuse me?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:21 pm

Originally posted by terrancelam
Excuse me?

i think he means teh [H] for pulling that stunt, tho he does try to stir trouble... so i dunno, just "post thinking" here

tHE_0ne · Post by **tHE_0ne** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:08 pm

Originally posted by terrancelam
Excuse me?

Mr White · Post by **Mr White** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:19 pm

Well...why waste time talking about it here? Who cares really...

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:38 pm

i'll keep my mouth shut on the issue.

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:53 pm

I really dont understand what the big deal is..

500 3dmarks? so what? do they really have to be huge dorks about it? jeez, they really need get a life, and SOON.

cy · Post by cy » Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:51 pm

Originally posted by vegeto
I really dont understand what the big deal is..

500 3dmarks? so what? do they really have to be huge dorks about it? jeez, they really need get a life, and SOON.

exactly. Like Brent said, there's a no life group of people trying to have a revnege towards the [H].....therefore.....

I think Kyle handled the problem the wrong way, however, not COMPLETELY wong, at least he banned some no lifer

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:08 am

Originally posted by Mr White
Sounds we got some lamers in our midst..

I have a idea, how bout you shut ur fuking mouth and crawl back into the hole you come from

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:58 am

Originally posted by m0a2t4t
I have a idea, how bout you shut ur fuking mouth and crawl back into the hole you come from

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:15 am

Originally posted by m0a2t4t
I have a idea, how bout you shut ur fuking mouth and crawl back into the hole you come from

Thank you for saying what was on my mind! hehe

Mr White · Post by **Mr White** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:17 pm

Your telling me to stfu idiot!? For saying the ppl that mass ban are lamers? die mmk

cy · Post by cy » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:19 pm

Originally posted by Mr White
Your telling me to stfu idiot!? For saying the ppl that mass ban are lamers? die mmk

Next time specify who you are talking to, we all thought u r talking to terrance dude. And now...u stfu for calling us idoit.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:29 pm

yea mr. l33t h4x0rz n00b m4n

Mr White · Post by **Mr White** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:58 pm

Did i quote him?? No i didnt.. I was responding to the thread. If you would take the time to read my posts and let them sink in ur simple minded heads instead of jumping on my nuts you might understand. Sorry to terrance if he thought that, i respect his opinions and most of yours until now.

Mr White · Post by **Mr White** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:59 pm

u pwn amro

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:14 pm

Mr White

Who let this fool in the door? You're lucky our mods don't post your ip...

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:17 pm

Ok guys...enoughs, enough.

Mr. White apologized to terrancelam. It was a simple misunderstanding on what Mr. White ment.

Let's be civil here.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:38 pm

Originally posted by Mr White
u pwn amro

LOL

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:17 pm

Too bad such a useful thread has been crapped upon so thoroughly (by both sides).

Anyway. I never really did read the reviews at hardocp. I pretty much post to their gaming forum and read their Intel forum.

Dats it so I really don't care. I honestly have no trust in any website that does reviews and runs advertisements for the company that manufactures the product on the exact same page.

But they all pretty much do that so...

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:46 am

Originally posted by Gaming-Module
Too bad such a useful thread has been crapped upon so thoroughly (by both sides).

Anyway. I never really did read the reviews at hardocp. I pretty much post to their gaming forum and read their Intel forum.

Dats it so I really don't care. I honestly have no trust in any website that does reviews and runs advertisements for the company that manufactures the product on the exact same page.

But they all pretty much do that so...

Think of it this way, macho. If you just heard that you got a great review at a site, wouldn't you want to advertise your product there? Or maybe the reviewer won't let the mfr post and at unless the product is good? Sure you have to to trust the site, and it can go either way, but if the review is consistent with other ones, then should there still be doubt. I fully trust the [H], anand, rage3d, accelination, and a few others. They haven't given me reason to doubt. If brent posts a review for an awesome card, and the mfr posts an ad, does that make brent a liar?

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:33 pm

Originally posted by Qwijib0
Think of it this way, macho. If you just heard that you got a great review at a site, wouldn't you want to advertise your product there? Or maybe the reviewer won't let the mfr post and at unless the product is good? Sure you have to to trust the site, and it can go either way, but if the review is consistent with other ones, then should there still be doubt. I fully trust the [H], anand, rage3d, accelination, and a few others. They haven't given me reason to doubt. If brent posts a review for an awesome card, and the mfr posts an ad, does that make brent a liar?

It doesn't. But If Brent posts a review, makes a honest mistake on it, then your me, Amro, M0a2t4t get banned because we mention it in a thread, then I think something has gone awry.

As for Mr.White, my apologizes for misunderstanding your statement. It's not ever day I get such a ambiguous comment.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:08 pm

Originally posted by terrancelam
It doesn't. But If Brent posts a review, makes a honest mistake on it, then your me, Amro, M0a2t4t get banned because we mention it in a thread, then I think something has gone awry.

As for Mr.White, my apologizes for misunderstanding your statement. It's not ever day I get such a ambiguous comment.

kyle only banned the people that were instigating this....

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:21 pm

so all 48 of those people, some of them long time members, just decided that they didnt like [H] anymore and wanted to start problems??

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:43 pm

[thread hijack] thas why i stay at sg no matter how many forums i try (and i like it when ppl use my name in their posts--thx terr--cause it makes me feel spiffy and part of the hardware community or something like that)[/thread hijack]

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 3:10 pm

look, its like this

you can either go to the site

or not go to the site

all i will say is that we give objective reviews, if its crap we'll tell you its crap, if its good we'll tell you its good...

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 12:53 am

is whatever. I only go to read your reviews.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 8:33 am

they do a good job of posting news too..thas why i go, news and brent's reviews

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