YoS = Unemployed?

[YARDofSTUF]

well i may be getting fired.

Fired for helping new ppl

Fired for non labeled locations(harder to find, more time consuming)

Fired for day managment not keeping up on high traffic items

Fired for being given dirty totes(boxes) that i dont use cuz their not suitable for customers, so i go get clean ones

Fired for there not being room for 2 or more ppl to work at full potential in one section

Fired for doing my job by the book



but oh no, there shortening it up to, not doing enough.


really pisses me off that i work my ass off and they dont even acknowledge it. fine fire me for productivity goal i'm not hitting, but at least say thanks for trying! hell they moved me out of MY section to help newer ppl, told them to ask me questions and stuff and then managment asks me why i'm not keeping up!

i'm even going back tonight for a volunteer only shift, and gave them over 10 sugestions to speed thigns up... but i dont do anythign, at least to them.


grrrrrrr.


not fired yet but the union rep doesnt seem to be able to help so ya, thx teamsters.

[aagiants]

what do u do??

if nething i could hook u up with a receptoinist job at my work heh,

[YARDofSTUF]

wharehouse worker. i'm interested in some positions at allstate insurance, but its almost been a year at this job, due for a 50cent raise in like 20 days but instead may be gone.

[minir]

Let's hope things work out for you YARDofSTUF.

Keep your chin up.

regards

minir

[morbidpete]

I'm sorry man. if ya do get fired. and that allstate job is a definite. get it. don't know about your area. but no one is hiring in mine. best of luck!

[MadDoctor]

Not that I have first hand experience with unions but it seems to me that unions are anything but helpful when management swings an axe.

Good luck with he Allstate job quest!!!

[mikemean]

Arbitration my friend. Doesn't your teamsters have a lawyer? My union does.

[drdoug99]

sorry to hear of that BS man. good luck!

[YARDofSTUF]

mike - our union guy is in close with management.

john - teh place sucks but its good money. nothign in the computer feild open around here for HS diploma only.

[Humboldt]

Sorry to hear that YOS. Hang in there and do what you have to, let the bastards sort themselves out later.

[YARDofSTUF]

i really dont midn losing the job overall cuz of the conditions, i just hate them sayign that its cuz i'm not doing anything. its like a smack in the face!

[black crowes]

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
not fired yet but the union rep doesnt seem to be able to help so ya, thx teamsters.

Unions SUCK... why do you think there are no cruise lines based in America.

[Norm]

Good luck YOS, hope you find a job you like.

The worst job is when you have to work to find one.
Job loss is scary, but usually ends with a new course in lfe, better than the last course.
Keep your chin up bud, things will get better.

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by black crowes
Unions SUCK... why do you think there are no cruise lines based in America.

i agree and i dont.


through my union i have INCREDIBLE benefits, the problem is that the union rep is tight with management and wont do anythignt o help me not get fired.

oh but after i'm fired then they'll fight for me lol

[CiscoKid]

YoS, go over his head within the union, worth a shot...

[Croc]

So take the problem to the Organisers, YoS. Go over his head and call in the heavies. That's what they are there for. They work for you. Your dues pay for them.

If the delegate is tight with the bosses then get him removed from the position. Vote him out of the Delegate's job and get someone who will get the job done.

Sorry to hear about your situation. Is there Wrongfull Dismissal legislation in the U.S.? Over here you have 21 days to lodge a claim and in many cases the employee is returned to his/her job.

Croc.

YoS, I am a Union Delegate with responsibility to up to 80 workers in our shop. I understand your problem because we had a Delegate who was tight with management. He is now a Supervisor who is using his Union experience and knowledge against the workers there. Good luck with your job.

Crocedit.

[RoundEye]

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
......nothign in the computer feild open around here for HS diploma only.......

Take this chance to go back to school. You have proven to us time and again that you can learn and know PC's well. (even though you type like a two year old )

Listen, I am far from Einstein over here. I went to classes one day a week and studied about four days a week. Still trying to get my MCSE, but it didn't take me long to find a job making a chunk of money more then I was making wrenching on bikes.

The balls in your court now, success or failure is entirely up to you at this point.

[YARDofSTUF]

were working on removing him, but the guy above him is just lazy.

like i said i'm not gone yet and i'm working on it, just kinda looks as tho i'll be losing my job.

[RoundEye]

I guess I'm just different then most people. I say screw the unions, screw the boss and screw the job. I don't care how much money they are paying, I'm not staying any where that I'm not wanted or that I'm not happy.

All that's going to happen is there's going to be a lot of back-stabbing assholes that you are going to have to deal with, even if you keep your job.

You're selling your self short, your too smart to just be driving a fork lift around.

[Croc]

Hmmm... looks like you need to hold elections for a couple of Delegate positions and get the lazy one out too.

Don't the other workers there see this as a problem? Don't they see this could be a threat to their jobs as well?

Croc.

[Norm]

Originally posted by RoundEye
I guess I'm just different then most people. I say screw the unions, screw the boss and screw the job. I don't care how much money they are paying, I'm not staying any where that I'm not wanted or that I'm not happy.

All that's going to happen is there's going to be a lot of back-stabbing assholes that you are going to have to deal with, even if you keep your job.

You're selling your self short, your too smart to just be driving a fork lift around.

I agree.
Get off that forklift and do yourself a favor before you're welded to it..

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by Croc
Hmmm... looks like you need to hold elections for a couple of Delegate positions and get the lazy one out too.

Don't the other workers there see this as a problem? Don't they see this could be a threat to their jobs as well?

Croc.

half the ppl see it, teh other half voted for these guys


Roundeye i agree with u, thing is i was waiting on a day postion. thigns there are different.

i really dont think i'm too smart for this place, if i was i wouldnt be in this siituation to begin with.

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by Norm
I agree.
Get off that forklift and do yourself a favor before you're welded to it..

i dont even touch a forklift, i work on my feet, the one thing i liek about my job.

[Croc]

Originally posted by RoundEye
I guess I'm just different then most people. I say screw the unions, screw the boss and screw the job. I don't care how much money they are paying, I'm not staying any where that I'm not wanted or that I'm not happy.

All that's going to happen is there's going to be a lot of back-stabbing assholes that you are going to have to deal with, even if you keep your job.

You're selling your self short, your too smart to just be driving a fork lift around.

There comes a time in a person's life when that is not an option anymore. It's a fine attitude to have when you are young.
I used to get pissed off with my job after about 2 or 3 years and leave, usually without somewhere else to work.
When you are looking at what your life will be like after retiring, you then start to work at the job you're doing because along with that comes the realisation that there aren't too many jobs out there for the over 50's.

I agree with the "go back to school" suggestion. That would be a smart move.

Hey.... I am a forklift driver too and I don't think it's a bad job.

Croc.

[Norm]

I was agreeing to RoundEyes entire post YOS. If he was mistaken about your forklift driving, it is irrelevant anyway.

Whether it's a forklift, or whatever you do at that job, you're better than that.
Don't fear change, embrace it. Your life will head in a new direction. Most likely somewhere better than what you have been putting up with there.

This isn't the first time you've posted about your job, and your feelings towards the company/people you work for.

[YARDofSTUF]

ya well i dont have the ability to go unemployed for long and theres not alot of places hiring, so i really dont have much of a choice of were i work.

[Joint Chiefs of Staff]

That sucks YoS. Seems the hard working people get tossed before the slackers. It'll all work itself out. You'll see.

[UnitedWeStand]

YoS, I know a person who is committy-man at buidk plant and when the guys are fired, he gets right in the middle of it all to get there job back..
And if at all for some reason the people he is defending doesn't think he does his job right.. well he usually ends up with a busted windshield and two or more flat tires.
I don't know how many people are in that Teamsters Union that you're enrolled into.. but I would see if its at all feasable to get them to strike... as it stands your still an employee right now. And a stike fund could get you by till the Corporation Meets the Demands of the Union or a negotiable compromise.
You know its a young mans world.. lots of old timers 25 years with a Corporation average wages $29/hour, and they get the boot.. then within a week there is a completely new generation of 18-25 year olds.. being hired in at $8/hour starting wages..
I think that some of the Corporations don't see much worth in Working harder, or getting things done faster.. but rather they like to see youth under there control.
Good Luck YoS. I feel for ya.. though I only get layed off from NOV. to MAR. each year. Income dwindles bank account monies fades.. then its Spring again.. but I still feel like just taking a year off, to visit the Caribean..
Sorry to hear the bad News.. but all in all I wish you Good Luck.

[Norm]

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
ya well i dont have the ability to go unemployed for long and theres not alot of places hiring, so i really dont have much of a choice of were i work.

Let's stop beating around the bush, it's not my style.

You can do whatever you want to do. if you choose to work in a factory, a warehouse, or some other manual labor job, that's your right. But you don't have to, and there is plenty of work, there always is.

Get your mind away from working for someone else. Rich people don't work for some one else, they have them working for them.
Market yourself, use your own talents to make work, and find clients, charge your own fees. Take control, depend on yourself, not some union or some company.

There are a million and one reasons/excuses available to prevent your success, don't let them dictate your life.

I'm talking from experience. I worked in factories, warehouses, truck driving, and whole slew of other manual jobs until one day I realized, hey.... I can do what I like doing, and get paid more than I've ever been paid for taking all the crap and abuse.

So far I've had one client who I just couldn't stand working for, and guess what? I walked out on him, yep.
Talk about being estatic.
I may have lost a few 'potential' clients but I don't care. Being my own boss, and not putting up with 'crap' makes up for the losses.

edit
BTW - I made the change about 2 years ago, and I'm 46 now. Don't let age be an excuse either.

[mikemean]

Don't let the employer win! You always have to do what they say. Then, if you disagree or are being treated unfairly, file a grievance. You pay the union to work for you.

[RoundEye]

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
........i really dont think i'm too smart for this place, if i was i wouldnt be in this siituation to begin with.......

That statement makes me want to reach through the monitor and bitch slap yo' ass! You are selling yourself WAY short.

I don't think you realize the ability that you have. I have tried to teach people how to troubleshoot through the years, one thing I've learned is that if a person doesn't have the analytical thought process to do it, you can't teach it to them.

You have that ability. You've put together and troubleshot many pc's that I've seen. No matter what some people here at this forum lead you to believe, it's not an easy thing to do. And from what I gather, you did this by reading and teaching yourself what and how to do it. You seem to be resourceful enough to where if you don't know what's wrong, you either ask, find a web site or something that gives you the answer you need.

YOS, I rarely if ever tell anybody this, but I never even finished high school. I made it to the eleventh grade and got into a bad accident the summer before my senior year. I dropped out and got my GED, then I went to a Vo-Tech for electronics. If I can do it, so can you.

You have the ability, don't let it go to waste.

And I really believe what I'm typeing here. I wrote all this stuff once and hit the wrong key and deleted it all. I wouldn't have went through all this trouble twice, if I didn't believe in you. You really should believe in yourself.

[onetrueday]

Originally posted by black crowes
Unions SUCK... why do you think there are no cruise lines based in America.

because there are so many regulations placed on ships.

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by Norm
Let's stop beating around the bush, it's not my style.

You can do whatever you want to do. if you choose to work in a factory, a warehouse, or some other manual labor job, that's your right. But you don't have to, and there is plenty of work, there always is.

Get your mind away from working for someone else. Rich people don't work for some one else, they have them working for them.
Market yourself, use your own talents to make work, and find clients, charge your own fees. Take control, depend on yourself, not some union or some company.

There are a million and one reasons/excuses available to prevent your success, don't let them dictate your life.

I'm talking from experience. I worked in factories, warehouses, truck driving, and whole slew of other manual jobs until one day I realized, hey.... I can do what I like doing, and get paid more than I've ever been paid for taking all the crap and abuse.

So far I've had one client who I just couldn't stand working for, and guess what? I walked out on him, yep.
Talk about being estatic.
I may have lost a few 'potential' clients but I don't care. Being my own boss, and not putting up with 'crap' makes up for the losses.

edit
BTW - I made the change about 2 years ago, and I'm 46 now. Don't let age be an excuse either.

i'm 22. weekly i check the paper, and the many online job sections, constantly check with my mom on ING and look into Aetna regularly. companies need to be hiring for me to get a job. and i need to meet teh qualifications.

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by John
Exactly what I was getting to.

Lots of people here have gotten their comp certs and are having fun with computers (and frustations with users lol) while making some gooooood money.

Take this as a sign to move on- was this really the place you wanted to work for the REST of your life anyway?

i want a cert and a degree, but i need the cash for all this and I NEED TO FIND A PLACE HIRING FOR THIS, but first i need the money for the degree!

i have good comp skills and knowledge but no papers that show it.

now i have 3 grand, if there are any certs u know i can sign up for around hardware or windows for that ammount, lemme know cuz i havent found any!

[YARDofSTUF]

Originally posted by RoundEye
That statement makes me want to reach through the monitor and bitch slap yo' ass! You are selling yourself WAY short.

I don't think you realize the ability that you have. I have tried to teach people how to troubleshoot through the years, one thing I've learned is that if a person doesn't have the analytical thought process to do it, you can't teach it to them.

You have that ability. You've put together and troubleshot many pc's that I've seen. No matter what some people here at this forum lead you to believe, it's not an easy thing to do. And from what I gather, you did this by reading and teaching yourself what and how to do it. You seem to be resourceful enough to where if you don't know what's wrong, you either ask, find a web site or something that gives you the answer you need.

And I really believe what I'm typeing here. I wrote all this stuff once and hit the wrong key and deleted it all. I wouldn't have went through all this trouble twice, if I didn't believe in you. You really should believe in yourself.

with computers i learn quick, the reason i said what u quoted was cuz i was in school and basically CHOSE to blow it, thus funking up my carreer path. now its become quite teh detour to get back.

[Croc]

YoS, I have a 26 year old daughter with 2 kids who returned to school so she could get a job. Now she works in Admin with our local Council.
Yeah, it was hard but worth the effort to do the detour. The one thing that get's you through the detour is commitment. This time round you have it. Make it happen.

Croc.