Is this a bug in winXP with 512mb of ram

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:46 am

This is what show on my "SYSTEM INFORMATION"

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name CBR900RR
System Manufacturer 761686
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 4 Stepping 4 AuthenticAMD ~1399 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 6/10/02
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name CBR900RR\CBR900RR
Time Zone Hawaiian Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 256.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 319.41 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.40 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

I had 2 stick of 256mb ram on my system, but is show

Total Physical Memory 256.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 319.41 MB

Is this a bug in winXP???
Thanks.

JamieLee2k · Post by **JamieLee2k** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:55 am

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name MAIN-PC
System Manufacturer MSI
System Model MS-6380
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 4 Stepping 4 AuthenticAMD ~1399 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 07.00T, 17/08/2001
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name MAIN-PC\JLR
Time Zone GMT Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 336.95 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.41 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Mines ok

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:03 am

How can the available memory more than the physical memory on my system???

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:05 am

Originally posted by CBR900RR
How can the available memory more than the physical memory on my system???

That includes vitual Memory

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:14 am

I just look at task manager, sisoft sandra, 3dmark2001se, and directX, they all report 512mb, even the comp start-up post.

This is a fresh install of winXP, I think I had the same problem before a fresh format.

jumpingrat · Post by **jumpingrat** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:40 am

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith
That includes vitual Memory

Yup. {nods head}. Optimal virtual memory for xp is appx. 1.5x the instaled RAM. Why you show 512Mb I have no idea (unless that's what yer VM is set to).

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:47 am

well if u have 2 sticks its only showing one stick working, so i would reset both sticks

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:50 am

That's not the case, I am pretty sure I had 2 stick of 256mb working, since it was report correctly in task manager, sisoft sandra, 3dmark2001se, and directX. Only MS system information report the wrong info.
Another thing is my AVAILABLE MEMORY should be less than my PHYSICAL MEMORY.

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
well if u have 2 sticks its only showing one stick working, so i would reset both sticks

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:52 am

CBR900RR: You have something hardware-wise wrong. One of your sticks is defective, or the slot is defective. You should show 512 physical when viewing SI.

Also, as a friendly word of advice, this board limits sigs to 5 lines of text. Anyway, I'd check to make sure you have both those sticks plugged in right. Something is physically wrong there. Let us know what you find out is the problem.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:55 am

Originally posted by CBR900RR
That's not the case, I am pretty sure I had 2 stick of 256mb working, since it was report correctly in task manager, sisoft sandra, 3dmark2001se, and directX. Only MS system information report the wrong info.
Another thing is my AVAILABLE MEMORY should be less than my PHYSICAL MEMORY.

No, your availible is a combination of your total physical ram and the virtual memory(page file). The Availible Memory should be higher than the Physical. Physical Ram is the total size of the ram sticks.

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:05 am

Ok, just remove 1 stick and leave 1 stick in and here is what I got

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name CBR900RR
System Manufacturer 761686
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 4 Stepping 4 AuthenticAMD ~1399 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 6/10/02
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name CBR900RR\CBR900RR
Time Zone Hawaiian Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 255.48 MB
Available Physical Memory 73.84 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.23 GB
Available Virtual Memory 931.07 MB
Page File Space 1,002.64 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:09 am

Now take the stick in the system out a nd put just the other one in and see if it boots and what the reads.

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:14 am

I remove the original stick and replace with the other stick and this is what I got

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name CBR900RR
System Manufacturer 761686
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 4 Stepping 4 AuthenticAMD ~1399 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 6/10/02
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name CBR900RR\CBR900RR
Time Zone Hawaiian Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 255.48 MB
Available Physical Memory 72.08 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.23 GB
Available Virtual Memory 934.36 MB
Page File Space 1,002.64 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:17 am

Looks like both pieces of ram are fine. Now put both back in and see what it reads.

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:26 am

I am back to 256

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name CBR900RR
System Manufacturer 761686
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 4 Stepping 4 AuthenticAMD ~1399 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 6/10/02
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name CBR900RR\CBR900RR
Time Zone Hawaiian Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 256.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 296.22 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.35 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:33 am

Now thats odd, Total physical is 256, but availible physical is 296, HMMMM . It knows you have more but it's not reading it. weird. I'll check around but i dunno.

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:42 am

I just check system properties and I had 512mb, only place that's is report incorrectly is SYSTEM INFORMATION.

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:44 am

Odd is right. Something about the motherboard that doesn't like those two sticks. You sure it's the right type of ram for the MB you have? It's definitely some sort of hardware problem.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:46 am

Originally posted by Dakota
Odd is right. Something about the motherboard that doesn't like those two sticks. You sure it's the right type of ram for the MB you have? It's definitely some sort of hardware problem.

Yeah, I think something with the mobo as well. With one stick it reads 255 and with 2 its reads 256. Hmmmm???

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:50 am

That's the correct one for my KG-7 raid, I bought it from crucial.com

DDR PC2100 • CL=2.5 • Registered • ECC • 2.5V • 32Meg x 72

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:47 am

Moving to hardware, you may get more responses this way.

CBR900RR · Post by **CBR900RR** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:34 am

Some pic of my desktop

http://www.pbase.com/cbr900rr/share

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:39 am

I wouldn't worry about what the sys Info says, all them other pieces of prove is fine. One more thing you can try just to get the right reading is, Put your XP disk in the Rom, and close the autostart window, Then go to start then run and type in SFC /scannow. Let it verify and repair all the core files. It might not do sh*t but it's worth a shot.