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Can't get into my router settings

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I had charter Pipeline installed yesterday and the tech set my router up for me, both pc's can see each other and access the net but when I try and get into the router setting by 192.168.1.1
it says the page cannot be displayed anyone know what is wrong?

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Post by Dakota »

What kind of router might that be?
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linksys 4 port
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Originally posted by intense
linksys 4 port
is it the besfr41
Will Work For FSB
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Post by BDillon21 »

Here are some tips:

Make sure WINS Resolution is disabled.
Make sure you have your proxies turned off...to do this in IE go to tool, internet options, connections tab, then lan settings. Make sure all boxes are unchecked.
Make sure there all of your TCP/IP fields are blank....no ip or subnet, no gateway, no DNS etc...

When all else fails I have found that deleting your NIC Adapters and all protocols etc. in your network properties and then rebuilding them helps. Just remember what you had before you go deleting them. Also, don't have any protocols installed that are not needed. Most Win98 home networks only need TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.

Hope this helps.
tshboy

that helped!

Post by tshboy »

great tip. as it turns out somehow @home had re-checked their proxy server in IE settings (i sure didnt re-check it) and thats why i couldnt get to my router.

btw, what is tgcmd and sysupd running on my sys now after getting cable. is this part of the @home software? is it safe to uninstall @home assistant, help, and browser?
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Post by intense »

One pc is 98se and one 2000 problem is with both pc's I checked the proxie settings the tech was only on the 2000 pc it must be some setting of charter cable I will have to try and get a hold of him tomorrow

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Post by VonJames »

Tshboy, if you have @home's software installed, it's likely that everytime you open your browser, the proxy will be auto checked again.
And no, you don't need any of the @home software.

Someone here has a reg tweak that will eliminate proxy server settings completely.

Perhaps they'll chime in here.
tshboy

this is true ---^

Post by tshboy »

vonjames i think you are right. also i have been having some major lag/lockups lately i think caused by the sysupd or tgcmd progs. i have checked all my other apps and its not them. particularly when i use winamp or qcd now it always hangs the songs like twice just for a few sec but very annoying. not sure what exactly the prob is.
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Post by Dakota »

I never loaded the @home software and everyone on the planet always recommends getting rid of it as it's not needed. Check out msconfig and see what's loading those modules in your startup.
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Post by VonJames »

Tshboy,
Ok, I went through some text files I have and found this, (I usually try to copy important data in a note pad doc in case I ever need it again), I got it from Cablenut.

Here's what he says:

People on @home cable do not need they're software on computer, you may add/remove it without
problems, but the only way to get rid of all of it is to reformat, the only thing you need from
@home is the modem, the computer name, and workgroup or domain which is : @home, no proxy server,
here is post by Cablenut on that subject and how to disable it: How to remove @home proxy server

Posted by Cablenut:

Proxy servers are generally SLOWER for your web browsing. This is because it caches everthing to a
remote server that is overloaded and just adds more hops in your path. They are intended to let the
cable company watch where you go!

To disable proxy server of @homes, go to start, run,

type: regsvr32 -u ahiehelp.dll (Space between 2 and -) This will disable proxy for good. Go to
Control Panel, internet options, connection tab at top, LAN settings at bottom, click. Uncheck
Automatic Detection and uncheck use proxy server, your done.

Nothing should be checked, reboot

end
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I would go into your control panel to add/remove programs and get rid of what you can of the @home software, then do the above and see if that gets rid of the autoproxy crap.

Good luck!
tshboy

good tips

Post by tshboy »

i actually saw that posted on the tweak guide, the regserv command and did that and did the win9x tweak and web browsing tweak. things seem to be running better now. i will remove @home stuff now and see if this stuttering stops. :cool:
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As an FYI proxy servers aren't inherently evil and they can make your web surifing faster, not slower.

Look, you think you're the only person going to yahoo.com on your node? Of course not. So doesn't it make sense to hold a copy of the page close to you, a few miles away, as opposed to going clear across the country umpty ump times a day to get the page? yes it does. Proxy servers frequently cache these pages locally, so you'll call to the proxy, and if it has the page, voila, it serves it right up. If not, then it goes and gets the page for you, and keeps a copy for itself so the next person wanting http://www.legos.com will get a faster load.

The cable company couldn't care less what pages you go to. In fact, they'd rather NOT know, because they can't be culpable if they remain ignorant about what shenanigans people get up to. If you visit the same pages frequently, like this one, then proxying/cacheing itIS a more efficient use of bandwidth.

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Originally posted by Bouncer
As an FYI proxy servers aren't inherently evil and they can make your web surifing faster, not slower.

Look, you think you're the only person going to yahoo.com on your node? Of course not. So doesn't it make sense to hold a copy of the page close to you, a few miles away, as opposed to going clear across the country umpty ump times a day to get the page? yes it does. Proxy servers frequently cache these pages locally, so you'll call to the proxy, and if it has the page, voila, it serves it right up. If not, then it goes and gets the page for you, and keeps a copy for itself so the next person wanting http://www.legos.com will get a faster load.

The cable company couldn't care less what pages you go to. In fact, they'd rather NOT know, because they can't be culpable if they remain ignorant about what shenanigans people get up to. If you visit the same pages frequently, like this one, then proxying/cacheing itIS a more efficient use of bandwidth.

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yeah, u may get the yahoo page faster, but you may not get the most recent version, and why not wait 1 second or 2 longer to get the most recent one? also, bypassing the proxy keeps them from seeing what u do online, plus if its a page that the proxy hasn't loaded before your just adding time to the retrieval of the page cause your browser sends the request to the server, the server goes and gets it, then sends it to you, why not just have your browser get the page in the first place?
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It's entirely up to you wheher or not you use the proxy. If you tend to visit the same places everyday (like many of us do) it can be more efficient to do local DNS resolving and cache the page.

If not, then it does add a delay. You have to decide for yourself, but since most people tend to visit the same sites daily (at least), it makes sense for them to use the proxy.

In any case, I'd tend to disagree about the monitoring part. Yes, they can monitor you if you use a proxy, but they can ALSO monitor you if you don't. Finally, the log for a proxy server serving a few thousand people would be enormous. Unless there was a reason to surveil your usage they simply wouldn't *pay* some employee to look at random people's browsing habits.

So,
They Don't care.
They don't want to know.
They don't want to pay someone.

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Post by BDillon21 »

Originally posted by Bouncer
It's entirely up to you wheher or not you use the proxy. If you tend to visit the same places everyday (like many of us do) it can be more efficient to do local DNS resolving and cache the page.

If not, then it does add a delay. You have to decide for yourself, but since most people tend to visit the same sites daily (at least), it makes sense for them to use the proxy.

In any case, I'd tend to disagree about the monitoring part. Yes, they can monitor you if you use a proxy, but they can ALSO monitor you if you don't. Finally, the log for a proxy server serving a few thousand people would be enormous. Unless there was a reason to surveil your usage they simply wouldn't *pay* some employee to look at random people's browsing habits.

So,
They Don't care.
They don't want to know.
They don't want to pay someone.

Regards,
-Bouncer-
I agree with you on that. I work for a small chain of credit unions and I frequently go through the servers log files to see whats going on, and to see if there have been any intrusions (so far I have found none), it can take me several hours to go through just a few different log files. It is a very tedious process to go through.
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