Should child molesters and sexual offenders be castrated?

OxBlooD · Post by **OxBlooD** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:01 pm

Should child molesters and sexual offenders be castrated?

1. yes

2. no

crazyman · Post by **crazyman** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:10 pm

Originally posted by OxBlooD
Should child molesters and sexual offenders be castrated?

1. yes

2. no

yes,good example is the "freeway killer" we had here in the 70's in los angeles,he molested and raped a boy in 1974 he did a couple years and got out to rape and kill 12 more young boys.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:11 pm

i think i know who said no!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Newage · Post by **Newage** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:12 pm

Yes, i think they should

it will be a lesson to all other molestors out there as well.....

that is bad ****

forcing sex or molesting anybody or anything is wrong

OxBlooD · Post by **OxBlooD** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:12 pm

Newage probably would say that they just fell in love with him

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:17 pm

Originally posted by crazyman

yes,good example is the "freeway killer" we had here in the 70's in los angeles,he molested and raped a boy in 1974 he did a couple years and got out to rape and kill 12 more young boys.

plz crazyman I can't stand to hear that stuff

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:22 pm

I say it depends on the situation and how often the person commited such a crime. I believe that if it not not a extreme incidence, and the person did it once, he/she should be forced to get some help and have a 2nd chance if improvement of their mentality shows. I know that a lot of people would say that one time is too many, but with another chance, sometimes people do change.

crazyman · Post by **crazyman** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:30 pm

Originally posted by lurker
I say it depends on the situation and how often the person commited such a crime. I believe that if it not not a extreme incidence, and the person did it once, he/she should be forced to get some help and have a 2nd chance if improvement of their mentality shows. I know that a lot of people would say that one time is too many, but with another chance, sometimes people do change.

I do disagree,history shows that most sexual preditors are repeat offenders,and openly admit to having urges to commit similar crimes.I think a human brain can go bad just like a sparkplug fouls out.But you and I disagreeing is what makes for stimulating conversation,and thats a good thing.have a great night,,,Dan

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:42 pm

Child Molesters Need to be executed! There have been studies to show that they have something like a 85% chance of offending again. These people cannot be cured, it is something like telling a guy to not be attracted to women anymore, how do you change someones sexual preferance, You can't.

I must also add that the child molestation laws must be more clear cut. There Laws here in Colorado that say if a 18 year old Person is have Sexual relations with a 15 old willing partner, They are a child molester. That is far to extreme when you have teenagers involved.

As a parent, let me say this: Because of the leinent laws of my state, if anyone were to ever touch my kids in that way, I would personally take his life with no regret. IMO it would be worth it and at best I'd get 10 to 20 for premeditation and with Good behaviour I would be out in 7.... Go ahead Flame away

crazyman · Post by **crazyman** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:43 pm

Originally posted by mouse
Child Molesters Need to be executed! There have been studies to show that they have something like a 85% chance of offending again. These people cannot be cured, it is something like telling a guy to not be attracted to women anymore, how do you change someones sexual preferance, You can't.

I must also add that the child molestation laws must be more clear cut. There Laws here in Colorado that say if a 18 year old Person is have Sexual relations with a 15 old willing partner, They are a child molester. That is far to extreme when you have teenagers involved.

As a parent, let me say this: Because of the leinent laws of my state, if anyone were to ever touch my kids in that way, I would personally take his life with no regret. IMO it would be worth it and at best I'd get 10 to 20 for premeditation and with Good behaviour I would be out in 7.... Go ahead Flame away

Flame? why? I agree with you Mouse....

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:49 pm

Originally posted by mouse
Child Molesters Need to be executed! There have been studies to show that they have something like a 85% chance of offending again. These people cannot be cured, it is something like telling a guy to not be attracted to women anymore, how do you change someones sexual preferance, You can't.

I must also add that the child molestation laws must be more clear cut. There Laws here in Colorado that say if a 18 year old Person is have Sexual relations with a 15 old willing partner, They are a child molester. That is far to extreme when you have teenagers involved.

As a parent, let me say this: Because of the leinent laws of my state, if anyone were to ever touch my kids in that way, I would personally take his life with no regret. IMO it would be worth it and at best I'd get 10 to 20 for premeditation and with Good behaviour I would be out in 7.... Go ahead Flame away

Why would anyone wnat to flame such a good post mouse?

personlty If I ever chught some ass*hole mostling a child I would beat to a breath of his life chop off his nuts and drag him to the cops but the hair on his head.

BTW mostlers are most of the time streotype as guys. So my post includes women also but since they have no D!ck a good thrashn whould have to do.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:52 pm

Child molestors should be turned loose, after being profiled on national tv. The reward for bringing in their reproductive organs should be very good. Enough said, children are the future, and quite innoccent. Let them be children without fear of sexual abuse.

OxBlooD · Post by **OxBlooD** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:54 pm

they should not be kill just beat them up to an inch of their lives

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:57 pm

Actually there are programs where a molester can volunteer for chemical castration. It's used for early release usually. It's not 100 percent effective but damn close.

By the way, this isn't legal in all 50 states. And the AMCLU is trying to get involved to stop it.

I"m not sure it's such a bad idea.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:59 pm

Ok, one thing you are forgetting here though. I am all against child molestation as well, but think. The judicial system is not perfect. What happens if you get the salem witch trials. Where said 12 year old falls in love with a teacher, makes advances at said teacher, then when teacher refutes her. She knows just cry rape/molestation and said teacher gets his nuts cut off. I am against it just like all of you, but when you come into a situation like that. What happens if they are innocent? Its the same thing with the death penalty, we should do the same things to them that they did to thier victims. Same thing, cause they might be innocent. Ever wonder why they spend 5-10 years on death row. Its to allow for all the appeals, to prove without a doubt that they are guilty(im pretty sure). So how can you inflict such a punishment? This also holds power for anyone, guy breaks up with psychochick with daughter, psycho chick hates said guy, brainwashes daughter, guy gets convicted and his balls cut off.

You have to think of the whole picture. Again, not fighting for them, just saying. What we need to do is invest in an island where we make our own laws, and have a oc128. Then as people who we like on the forums get known, they move out too. Then we all live in uber paradise with our own laws, till then we gotta abide by whats there.

tekelberry · Post by **tekelberry** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:59 pm

I think different. I think they should be punished but not that severly. I think this because the only reason people do this is that they would get molested or sexually abused themselves which motivates them to do it to other people. It is sad

but true. They belong behind bars but not executed. People that need to be executed are people like Timothy McVeigh. The terrible thing he did was awful and caused lives to be lost..many many lives

. I think we should focus on executions for people that have commited a much more serious crime, like Tim. You dont hear any news storys on people being raped/molested/sexually abused nationally, even internationally. But you do if it is a crisis like in Oaklahoma City. We also cant go around executing all these sexual offenders. Our country would fall apart. We would be known by other countries as Come to America, Get Executed. If we execute sexual offenders then that will lead to other people being executed. I think executions are the very extreme and only need to be used on a VERY VERY serious matter. Im not saying that the VERY VERY HORRIBLE sexual offenders shouldn't be killed. I mean if the guy molested 100 people then he deserves the execution. I think these sex offensers need a 2nd chance WITH counseling because they couldnt help it cuz they were molested themselves. There are many sex offenders and there was one Timothy McVeigh. An execution should be taken out on one person based on the circumstances. Being executed because you are a sex offender is too broad and we would be killing people everyday. We would end up being scared of the government/law enforcement. So to finish up, sex offenders should only be executed if the extreme has been committed. We should care more about executions with people like Tim. This is my opinion. And last, for the record, I AM AGAINST MOLESTATION! IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA BUT WE CAN HANDEL IT IN A DIFFERNET MATTER OTHER THAN EXECUTIONS.

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:00 pm

"There have been studies to show that they have something like a 85% chance of offending again."

Now what about that 15% that wouldnt offend again?! should they be executed too?

Dont get me wrong, i totally agree with mouse on the "if someone does that to my kids, i would kill the offender" concept. But i'm just saying, the 85% are sick and i do believe they should be excuted, but what about that 15% that would cure their sickness?

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BTW heres something i dont understand..
A 18 year old having sex w/ a 14 year old is molestation. What about a 18 having sex w/ a 17 year old, does that one year determine if a person should be charged more for a crime?

Also if i'm correct, every state has a different age restriction for adults to have intercourse with. Why is that? Shouldnt every state have the same age limit? What if in the future one state decides that a person is a child until the age of 20?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:05 pm

its honestly a tough call for me on that question. part of me says hack away and another part of me is like "no way" leave a guys nads alone

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:52 pm

Originally posted by mouse
IMO it would be worth it and at best I'd get 10 to 20 for premeditation and with Good behaviour I would be out in 7.... Go ahead Flame away

I'll bite.

1. I agree with your post except the last paragraph
2.Have you ever been down before? 7 years is 7 years no matter how much you end up enjoying the "company" of women.
3.Your child would be left with out a mother if you went down. Thats a crime in and of itself
4.Have you ever killed anyone? Me neither, but I can talk about it all day.
5.You would have commited a more heinous offense in the eyes of the law, than said pedophile.
6.Murder is wrong.
7.Why talk sh!t.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:54 pm

Well guy's let me say this, there is never a full proof way to be sure that we are not killing the wrong person. There would need to be laws set into place to make sure that those numbers stayed low.

However due to the nature of the crime, the death penalty should be used. Someone on here said that child molesters should only get the death penalty in extreme cases. well let me tell you EVERY case is extreme.

The hell that the victim goes through for the rest of their life is reason enough. Being molested leaves scar's so hidden that sometimes even the victim cannot see them until it is to late....

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 10:14 pm

Originally posted by 64bit

I'll bite.

1. I agree with your post except the last paragraph
2.Have you ever been down before? 7 years is 7 years no matter how much you end up enjoying the "company" of women.
3.Your child would be left with out a mother if you went down. Thats a crime in and of itself
4.Have you ever killed anyone? Me neither, but I can talk about it all day.
5.You would have commited a more heinous offense in the eyes of the law, than said pedophile.
6.Murder is wrong.
7.Why talk sh!t.

IWell actually No I have never been to jail, so maybe I have no idea what I would go though.

My child would be left without a mother for 7 years but IMO it would still be worth it. I would be able to look my child in the eye and tell in all honesty that the person that hurt them would NEVER be able to do that again.

I really don't think that to many people, my community or my local law offices would look down on me to hard and if I screamed to the reports, I would almost bet that I would have supporters coming out of the woodwork.

Murder is wrong

Vengance as parent is my right...

SGTMAJRET · Post by **SGTMAJRET** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:16 am

What do you do with a female sexual offender? I do believe the action taken should be drastic and final. One offense is one too many.

keeper · Post by **keeper** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:34 am

1. Castration has been considered before. The U.S. Supreme Court decided it violated the 8th Amendment [chemical castration case].
2. Castration does not prevent continued molestation.
3. It is cheaper to lock-up 20 prisoners for life [w/o parole] than to execute just one.
4. The government should NOT execute its citizens.
5. People should be given more latitude in protecting their loved ones. Less inquiries into cases where someone shoots a child molester, Home break-ins, etc.
IMHO

mikemean · Post by **mikemean** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:43 am

The legal age for sexual consent in Montana is 16. I wou8ld never do anything with someone that young because it wouldn't fell right.... they are still basically a kid but old enough to consent. I was molested when I was little a few times.

but really didn't know it was wrong at the time so I never said anything. I just never went around those people anymore.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 1:58 pm

I did not read this whole thread b/c I think it's kind of pointless!

While we're at it (Castrating Sex Offenders) why don't we cut off Bank Robbers HAnds...
oh and cut out
Drunk Drivers Eyes so they can't drive anymore....that would basically solve ALL Of our problems....

This is the wrong approach people!

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:15 pm

Well tell me what you would do, when the doctore tell you that your 7 year old daughter will never be able to have children because of the damage done to her body...

Rgon · Post by **Rgon** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:21 pm

I think they should chop off their ding-a-lings and sell them as hot dogs, Armour hot dogs. What kind of man doesn't like Armour hot dogs?

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:21 pm

What can you do?

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:25 pm

Originally posted by balakov10
What can you do?

Kill him and that will Guarantee that he will NEVER do it again! They should not be given the right to even think about it....

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 3:00 pm

lol
take tthat up with your state leg.
but all I'm saying is that cutting of their tool is not thre thing to do...It wouldn't hurt me if they kilt him/her whatever...

Cutting of the tool is not the way to go....I don't think they will execute those ppls either, although I sure wouldn't mind...

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 3:16 pm

Some people have no cule waht happend to a child that is has happend to.

No mouse I disagree with killing them, killing thier sex drive is good enogh.

And yes its not something to do to every offeder, But thier are people out there that are so sick and need others to control them cause they DO NOT cotrol them self

And tek being sexuly moslted is no excuess to go around and do it to others this whole chain idea is bullS**h.

Only in cases such as a 10 year old moslteing a 6 year does the offeder not know right from wrong. The older ones know that it is wrong and do not care enough about humman life to stop them selfs.

The twised view that most people have on this subject is wrong.

Loch-nar · Post by **Loch-nar** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 3:26 pm

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 3:45 pm

as I said I tihnk it just sets the wrong example

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 4:19 pm

Tie their D|cks to a car bumper and have the car do a 1/4 mile race...

fanta · Post by **fanta** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 6:07 pm

Don't forget to hold up a sign saying "I'm the victim" as you chop their ***** to bits and feed it to the lions.

I can't say what I would do if something like that happened to my children (when the time comes) I just hope I never have to deal with a situation like that, and I hope the same for all of you guys too.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 6:14 pm

Originally posted by mouse

Kill him and that will Guarantee that he will NEVER do it again! They should not be given the right to even think about it....

i agree with mouse if i had a daughter and she was raped, i would bruatally destroy the man's body before killing him, BUT I WOULD KILL HIM, its somethign that just has to be done, if i had a son that raped a girl, i'd turn him in, its PLAIN WRONG.

btw its cheaper for the state to let ppl kill the molesters and murders ourselves one knife lasts for more than 20 deaths

bigflatulentdog · Post by **bigflatulentdog** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 7:24 pm

Originally posted by mouse
Child Molesters Need to be executed! There have been studies to show that they have something like a 85% chance of offending again. These people cannot be cured, it is something like telling a guy to not be attracted to women anymore, how do you change someones sexual preferance, You can't.

I must also add that the child molestation laws must be more clear cut. There Laws here in Colorado that say if a 18 year old Person is have Sexual relations with a 15 old willing partner, They are a child molester. That is far to extreme when you have teenagers involved.

As a parent, let me say this: Because of the leinent laws of my state, if anyone were to ever touch my kids in that way, I would personally take his life with no regret. IMO it would be worth it and at best I'd get 10 to 20 for premeditation and with Good behaviour I would be out in 7.... Go ahead Flame away

technicly, if you castrate a guy, it takes away the ability to create hormones to make a guy horny (gurls, as you can tell, they creat ALOT

) thus chopping them off would take away the want. unless its some weird mental fetish, which most of the time it isnt. although it is always 50/50

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:15 pm

Depends.

Kinda hard to say "sorry" to someone if they're wrongly convicted (and in the US, that's OFTEN), and you've already chopped their balls off.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:41 pm

I think its kinda of a stupid idea, considering like some one lese already said.. wouldve there worngly convicted?

And this violates human rights big time regardless of the crime...

I say a good anal raping from bubba at the pen would be a good enough punishment

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Thu Jun 14, 2001 12:01 am

[quote]Originally posted by PING

I say a good anal raping from bubba at the pen would be a good enough punishment [/QUOTE

Well in theory that sounds good enough, yet when the guy get's released he can try those moves on the defencless little kid that he see walking down the street....

Do any of you remeber Loreena Bobbit? I think every man in america grabbed his crotch and worried. I think that it made quite a few of them stop and think...

Point is, threaten their manhood and they will think twice about what they are jeperdizing.....

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