internet?

catch · Post by **catch** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:02 pm

here we go major prob....
it is realy bugging me but can any of you s.g.p tel me,
what is going on?
i have tried win me win 98 and w2k and on every os had the same problem.
here it is wen i connect to the net it goes wel for about 10 to 15 min... then it dies.
i'll then have to do a restart and i can connect again for a humble 10 or 15 min...i tele... with my provider nothing wrong there so help wanted please.
now running a double boot: win me and w2k.
the specs are 3com etherlink xl tpo pci nic
and a com 21 cablemodem.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:09 pm

your english isnt the greatest but I can give you this advice...

get rid of the dual boot and go strictly with win 2k on NTFS.

make sure you so a complete format before this.

if all of your default settings in win 2k still give you the problem contact your ISP and scream because its not you. (also try finding a better NIC, or allocating more memory to it in an INI)

catch · Post by **catch** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:17 pm

okay i will try that in the morning for now i must sleep
sorry for the lang...... butt i'm dutch you

know.
but thanks for the reply.

DV · Post by DV » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:31 pm

Most likely a bad ethernet card. You can also get this when someone else is trying to use your IP. That sometimes creates a cycle where whoever reboots knocks the other person offline until they reboot. Have a buddy ping your IP after your PC falls offline to see if that's the case. However, if it is a constant 15 minutes and happens no matter when you reboot, my bet is the NIC. I personally would leave your dual boot, I run 98 and 2k just fine.

Good luck

rodrod5 · Post by **rodrod5** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:38 pm

i agree with dv this very well could be a stolen ip
have your buddy ping your computer when your rj45 is unplugged from your nic
try this several times especially RIGHT after your connectivity dies

if he can still ping your ip address then it is a stolen ip and you need to get another

dont worry bout about the english dude it is great

hope this helps

:2cool:

joepassavanti · Post by **joepassavanti** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:51 pm

I too agree with DV. it sounds to me like he knows what he is talking about. i will bet that someone is trying to use your ip.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:07 pm

Explain to me how someone would use his IP?

Mabe his account but not his IP... if it is static its a cable line or the like and no one is going to "steal" your IP if you have a cable.

Next would be a dynamic IP and since theres a whole pool of IPs and you grab a new one from the pool each time no one could steal "your" IP.

the chances of an ISP allowing someone to log onto the same account twice or knock the first user off qare very low.

Im bettings its the NIC or a setup problem, not a "stolen IP"

joepassavanti · Post by **joepassavanti** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:30 pm

it is quite easy to "steal" an ip.

obviously, it could be a mistaken issue, such as a 2nd pc named with the same dns computer name (such as on @home), and then you would have 2 pc's competing for the same DHCP lease. that kind of thing happens everyday. the dhcp server does not know the difference between 2 pc's with the same computer name (other than mac address, but this is not used for verification)

or it could be intentional. let's say someone wants to particpate in an activity where he does not want there to be a way to trace the connection back to his account. as long as his modem is already set up for mutiple ip's (most are configured by mso for a single ip by default), this individual can "play the odds" and find another ip to use on the same subnet. this ip may or may not be activated to a current account holder (but that is irrelevant). routers are confiugured with ip address ranges, not individual ip's. therefore, as long as it falls within the range, it can be accomplished. keep in mind, although there is equipment that exists between the router and your modem, it is all passive and does not restrict data.

if you do not believe me, i would say try it for yourself, but i do not wish to endorse this sort of behavior. i can assure you that this does happen quite frequently. i hope that this clears the matter up.

by the way, if you still do not believe me, call your respective tech support and ask them. i cam certain that they will tell you same thing (although probably without as much detail).

CompGeek83 · Post by **CompGeek83** » Thu Jun 14, 2001 8:45 pm

PING, meesa think u should stick to playing PONG, no?

Dual booting win2k and win98 is the only way to fly, it gives u the stability (win2k) to do anything you want faster and better than win9x and the ability to play games (98) that wont function in win2k. (also gives you emergency option of using one os to fix the other in the case of installing a bad driver in win2k)

according to your setup i wouldn't waste my time with another format, call yer service provider and make them straighten it out on their end and it will work fine.

the "bible" (tech support handbook) used by ISP's has "its never the ISP's fault" written all over it, dont let them tell you that, 90% of the time its their fault

Acid · Post by **Acid** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 7:33 pm

I would guess that it's the nick that is the problem, I have the same problem with one of my nicks. It was really bad and i reeinstalled the computer, after that it was good for a while, and now it's dies from times to times again. This nick is in my LAN, so I don't have any ISP issue. The only thing i think it could be for me is a bad nick or a bad pci slot.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 7:43 pm

Originally posted by CompGeek83
PING, meesa think u should stick to playing PONG, no?

Dual booting win2k and winme is the only way to fly, it gives u the stability (win2k) to do anything you want faster and better than win9x and the ability to play games (me/98) that wont function in win2k. (also gives you emergency option of using one os to fix the other in the case of installing a bad driver in win2k)

according to your setup i wouldn't waste my time with another format, call yer service provider and make them straighten it out on their end and it will work fine.

the "bible" (tech support handbook) used by ISP's has "its never the ISP's fault" written all over it, dont let them tell you that, 90% of the time its their fault

You saying that Win Me and Win 2k are a great dual boot team shows how much you know.

JmE · Post by **JmE** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 8:00 pm

I personally prefer CP/M

In any event. Is there a LAN involved? If so, see if you have problems on the LAN side as well as when you are having internet problems...

It could be as simple as a CAT 5 cable or NIC problem.

I would lean towards the NIC or IP address problems...

-JmE-

(my humble $.02 worth, if that

)

CompGeek83 · Post by **CompGeek83** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 9:42 pm

Originally posted by PING

You saying that Win Me and Win 2k are a great dual boot team shows how much you know.

sorry bout that, meant to say win2k and win98, u can see that if u read the rest of the post, anyway im not going to argue about which os is the best, some of us dual boot for a reason, we have figured out a few things you havent apparently

CompGeek83 · Post by **CompGeek83** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 9:47 pm

hey PING, just noticed that you have a whopping 512 posts, kinda funny that you have that many in 14 days, wow your 36.34 posts per day has to be a record, probably even more than the mods, seems like you have a strong need to fit in, probably to make up for your lack of computer knowledge

and now that i have made my rebuttal to your slander of my computer knowledge i bid u farewell as i wont be annoying u anymore

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 9:53 pm

Hey how about we quit flaming, ping was wrong about the ability to steal an IP from cable, not a reason to flame, who cares about post count, u learn from reading posts, not reply, so stop relplying with flames)both parties) and go learn/help/ask ur questions. thank you!