Im planning a new build...

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:32 pm

I would like to hear your opinions ect...

The Ocho...

ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support and UEFI BIOS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103960
Model #:Crosshair V Formula
Item #:N82E16813131735
$239.99 -
$10.00
Instant
$229.99

1 ASUS GT640-2GD3 GeForce GT 640 2GB 128-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121643
DDR3 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video
Card
Model #:GT640-2GD3
Item #:N82E16814121643
$109.99

AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103960
$189.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231619
Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C11D-16GZL
Model #:F3-2133C11D-16GZL
Item #:N82E16820231619
$129.99

Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817153136
Model #:W0382RU
Item #:N82E16817153136
$114.99 -
$25.00
Instant
$89.99

Subtotal: $749.95

This build will also include 2 150Gig Western Digital Raptors that i already have...

I am not sure what to get for a psu... im iffy on that vid card but trying to stay on somewhat of a budget lol hence, the 16 gigs of ram instead of 32

and i dont want to buy a new case, i have 2 nice ones i like but they dont have the blow hole for the top mounted psu.
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream:

Thermaltake Xaser V: (Mine needs tlc)

Or should i just move with the times and get a new case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811144182

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:50 pm

Well, I guess i pissed someone off.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:11 pm

i think AMD is launching a new line of CPU's very soon if you are staying AMD.

what are your main uses for this PC ?

gaming, video encoding, ect ?

i would for sure get a new SSD as the prices have really gone down lately, a major difference in everyday use IMO

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:14 pm

Is that your current case? If so, then

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:17 pm

Most likely gaming... It was my understanding that these were the new line... but then again its been close to a decade since i have been active in keeping up with the joneses... So, the ssd's, do they live comparable lives to a mechanical drive now?

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:19 pm

CableDude wrote:Is that your current case? If so, then

Yeah, the 2 thermaltakes are mine... matter of fact i bought the Xaser from someone here...

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:31 pm

Bastid wrote: So, the ssd's, do they live comparable lives to a mechanical drive now?

Not from the numbers we're seeing and sending back for RMAs.

Post by **Philip** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:35 pm

CPU is pretty good value for the money... I'd look at SSDs as well... Maybe go for Corsair memory but that's just a personal preference.

Post by **Philip** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:38 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Not from the numbers we're seeing and sending back for RMAs.

Even Intels and Crucial M4's ?

I'm not happy with HDD reliability lately either, too many DOAs.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:04 pm

i have been pondering a new build myself, but am going to have to wait it seems, if i were to build today, i would go with a Intel 3770K CPU for the overclocking ability and hyperthreading for video encoding.

but if i could spend another $300 or so i would love to go with a Intel Core i7-3930K, plus i am sure the motherboards for that socket cost more.

and i would go with 2 8GB sticks of ram, or if i had the budget 32GB total for some ram drive usage..

as far as graphics cards go, i am not sure what to recommend, but i would check out http://hardforum.com/index.php for that info.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:59 am

Philip wrote:Even Intels and Crucial M4's ?

No...not seeing those come in the hardware. If I were to build and use an SSD..it would be one of those brands.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:03 am

I'm gonna have to build soon....couple of days a go my old gaming rig at home finally croaked. My rig has issues powering up..even getting through post. Looked at it..3x caps on my Asus p5q are bulging. She's old..been rock solid...it has the first Core 2 Duo processor in it.

Gotta find a basic mobo and an i5 processor. Vid card is great, pair of Raptor 76 gig drives. Intel Sonata case. Just sucks for the timing...huge expenses at the home front with stuff going on and 2x vacations come up...1 of which is a huge vacation. No spare money.

My personal taste for building computers now..it's all about smaller size. Even my Antec Sonata case I'd like to replace with a smaller one.

David · Post by **David** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:12 pm

M4's and Intel SSD's have been doing fairly well.

Waiting for the AMD "piledrivers" might be an idea. As it stands, the 8 core AMDs do not outperform the 2600K or even the 2500K intel offering. Good deals on z68 boards would save you the money for the better CPU.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:44 pm

For gaming go with Intel. Seems every now and then a game comes out that doesn't play nice with AMD, plus intel is just the top dog.

That video card is kinda crap too, if you cant afford a 660, look at a 560-570ti. Check reviews but I'm sure one of them will have good power.

Corsair and XFX have good PSUs built by Seasonic.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:19 pm

ok, to be honest i have a thing about intel... its not rational but its still a thing. Like ford and chevy type thing... I like AMD... i may have issues.

Also, I thought i had heard/read that the second gen zambezi is supposed to be a lot better than the first. but , yes, I have been researching the seasonic and everything ive clicked on has given great reviews! Yeah, the card was just to get everything up and running, but i cant justify spending 300 on a card let alone 500.

And thank you guys for your input.

Post by **Philip** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:15 am

That processor's CPU marks are better than I5s and close to an I7, which puts it in a very competitive price bracket.

Yeold, I still like bigger cases that leave room for expansion/cooling, however, my thing nowadays is power efficient builds, as in PSUs, CPUs, etc. I do have a mini-ITX for HTPC though.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:38 pm

What about 180-200 on a card? GTX 560 or AMD 7850. As long as your monitor is 24" or smaller those should do well.

David · Post by **David** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:38 pm

Most of the comparison I read painted the 8 core as a huge disappointment. It did not fair well even against the sandy bridge offerings.

I understand the sentiment, however.

David · Post by **David** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:39 pm

A 6950 would suffice for a video card, cheaply had these days.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:02 am

I grabbed a 7750, run boarderlands 2 maxed out without a single hiccup. Cheap card, single slot. Supports crossfire if I need to grab another.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:45 pm

David, it was my understanding that the first gen Zambezi was great at video editing n stuff, crunching numbers but that was it. I dont know how true it is but i was told that a phenom could out perform it. Amd was supposed to go back and see what the flaws were and supposedly come out with v 2.0. All of this is unsubstantiated

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:28 am

Its great with video editing because that can use all 8 cores. Games wont make use of them all. The flaws are basically that the Bulldozer line is built to offer newer instruction sets, and if things don't use them, there is no advantage, its not like there was an error in the design, its just they way they went.

David · Post by **David** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:14 pm

The cores are less efficient than that of the sandy bridge, plus the built in GPU transcodes video like a monster.

You are correct, the hex core phenoms did outperform the 8 core dozer.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:20 pm

Now i am even more confused... I have been looking into the second gen APU's from amd trinity chipset.
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David · Post by **David** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:20 pm

Piledriver is due out soon, which might very well be an improvement on the bulldozer. The Ivy bridge, though not the overclocking monsters, have an upgraded on chip GPU which transcodes roughly 20% better than the Sandy bridge.

It rightly depends on what you want of your system.

be well,
david

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:43 am

i scrapped my original idea and pulled the trigger on this build... I wanted to get back into the meat and potatoes of something new... the APU has piqued that... It seemed like the other setup was just ooh hey, ive got the biggest numbers yada yada yada. i really want to get into this and see what possibilities there are to be had here. Plus its a bit cheaper lol

ASUS F2A85-V PRO FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131882
$139.99

G.SKILL Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Item #: N82E16820231589
$299.98
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AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD ...
Item #: N82E16819113280
$129.99

Crucial M4 CT032M4SSD3 mSATA 32GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148610

$49.99

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Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:03 am

I may have run into a tiny snag...I recieved all my parts today and well the "hard drive" is not what i expected...
Im not surewhat to do with this lol

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:52 am

Bastid wrote:I may have run into a tiny snag...I recieved all my parts today and well the "hard drive" is not what i expected...
Im not surewhat to do with this lol

isn't that one of those drives that go onto the mobo for cache, like Intel Smart Response technology ?

i would get a larger SSD anyways, you can get SSD's now for almost 50 cents per GB now

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:03 am

mSATA. For laptops.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:12 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:mSATA. For laptops.

oh, i learned something new

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:15 am

I was just going to put the OS on it so it didnt need to be huge... So, is there a way i can use this in my current build?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:55 am

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6812186184

I guess you would want something like that. Not sure if that would work with your SSD or not.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:38 pm

I did find a few more things that should work at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ ... %20adapter
I ordered this: http://www.amazon.com/OKEBA-Mini-mSATA- ... ta+adapter I think it should do what i want it to... thank you for the assist, i was very tired and frustrated(long day)

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:59 pm

Some motherboards will support m-sata using the PCI-E slot, usually the 4x slot. Cant hurt to try as they are electrically compatible so you wont break anything

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:05 am

I thought mSATA and the PCIe slots were "wired" differently?

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:37 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:I thought mSATA and the PCIe slots were "wired" differently?

from wiki

"The connector is similar in appearance to a PCI Express Mini Card interface,[28] and is electrically compatible; however, the data signals (TX±/RX± SATA, PETn0 PETp0 PERn0 PERp0 PCI-express) need connection to the SATA host controller instead of the PCI-express host controller"

So it depends on the MB

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:23 pm

So, is Crisis still the game to benchmark by?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:21 pm

Bastid wrote:So, is Crisis still the game to benchmark by?

BF3 or Skyrim would be my choices.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:21 pm

I realize it's a little late to weigh in on the SSD advice, but I just put a Samsung 830 in my MacBook and I'm in love with it! The 256GB versions can be had for around $170 right now. From what I've read, the Samsung's are pretty reliable.

Mad_Haggis · Post by **Mad_Haggis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:12 am

You tube?, puking into it while drinking WD40....it's the spat that makes a rig, not the nuanncances.