What income level do you feel represents the lower middle class?

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What income level do you feel represents the lower middle class?

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I've been seeing many numbers thrown out there in the media and I'm just curious as to what you all feel is the income level of an individual in the lower middle class.


Don't go by official stats....just post what you think it is.

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I would say it varies from state to state or in some circumstances city to city.
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Roody wrote:I would say it varies from state to state or in some circumstances city to city.
Play along please...just throw out a number that is local to you.
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I say it's around $40k.
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$30k
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Per person, 30-35k a year for here.
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50 - 75,000 maybe? i have no idea really.
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40k around here sounds about right.
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$35,000
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Per person I would say in the low 30's here.
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JawZ wrote:I say it's around $40k.
Poverty level in NJ.

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Ok...so the figure I see thrown around and hear about on TV and radio is $125,000. $125k is considered by many to be lower middle income.

Obviously you can the see the disparity between perception and reality.


I wish I made half that. I make a quarter of that and feel I'm rich lol.
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JawZ wrote:I've been seeing many numbers thrown out there in the media and I'm just curious as to what you all feel is the income level of an individual in the lower middle class.


Don't go by official stats....just post what you think it is.

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Wow....I'm poor...
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JawZ wrote:Ok...so the figure I see thrown around and hear about on TV and radio is $125,000. $125k is considered by many to be lower middle income.

Obviously you can the see the disparity between perception and reality.


I wish I made half that. I make a quarter of that and feel I'm rich lol.
I actually agree with you :p .

I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and our salary is obviously paid for each locality. Usually our pay is based on the cost of living in that locality, not a high paying job but enough to live reasonably with a decent house in a decent area. Our salaries are public record so anyone can see what we make, I don't know of many municipalities that pay their Fire/Police/EMS $125K a year, I think that amount is way too high. It goes to show what our tax laws are based upon.

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40K around here for a house hold cause I figure they are looking at families not individuals.
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I live in Vancouver,WA and a 2 bedroom apartment (1000sqft) goes for about $750....but in Colfax,WA you can get the same size apartment for about $200.

I think it's tough to measure what is low income.

Are you married with kids?

Do you have 3 dogs, horses?

Do you live outside your means?

If I made $30,000 a year and was single I'd be fine and not low income but middle/low.

$20,000 or less (to me) is getting into the low income range.
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I will never complain about my salary again!!
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downhill wrote:Wow....I'm poor...
Me too :cry:
No wonder why I'm so cheap.
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the sad part of it the millatry is poor they avg less than 30k a yr for the enlisted.
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Sava700 wrote:40K around here for a house hold cause I figure they are looking at families not individuals.

$125k per individual, $250k per married couple.
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horsemen_ wrote:the sad part of it the millatry is poor they avg less than 30k a yr for the enlisted.
We don't starve but I have no idea how it is to live in the comfort of a $125k per year lifestyle. I wish I knew so I could say if I was truly missing out on something.
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Cypher wrote:Me too :cry:
No wonder why I'm so cheap.
I bought a new shirt and cut it into pieces to repair my old ones.....
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JawZ wrote:$125k per individual, $250k per married couple.
I'd be damn happy to be even near that.. even during our best year we never reached 80K in the last 10years wife and I have been together.
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I would have judged things this way:

Destitute - Less than $6,000 per year
Poor - Between $6,000 and $18,000 per year
Lower Middle - Between $18,000 and $36,000 per year
Middle - Between $36,000 and $72,000 per year
Upper Middle - Between $72,000 and $108,000 per year
Rich - Greater than $108,000 per year
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For an individual...lower middle class I'd figure between 40-65K maybe? 125K lower middle class is ridiculous. I'd put that in the top range of middle class.
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JBrazen wrote:For an individual...lower middle class I'd figure between 40-65K maybe? 125K lower middle class is ridiculous. I'd put that in the top range of middle class.
I have to agree with JB here. At least for New York.
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JBrazen wrote:For an individual...lower middle class I'd figure between 40-65K maybe? 125K lower middle class is ridiculous. I'd put that in the top range of middle class.
if your making 125K here as a couple your considered rich
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Sava700 wrote:if your making 125K here as a couple your considered rich
Damn, where do you live? I need to move down there! lol
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JBrazen wrote:Damn, where do you live? I need to move down there! lol

You have all your teeth, you don't qualify to live there lol. :D
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JawZ wrote:You have all your teeth, you don't qualify to live there lol. :D
OUCH! :rotfl:
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JBrazen wrote:Damn, where do you live? I need to move down there! lol
south western va... there is one county here that has over 20% unemployment. But there are not many jobs paying over 30K around here.
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JawZ wrote:You have all your teeth, you don't qualify to live there lol. :D
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Sava700 wrote:But there are not many jobs paying over 30K around here.
How is the cost of living there?
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Sava700 wrote:Image
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Debbie wrote:How is the cost of living there?
not sure I really haven't lived anywhere else to base it off of but you can get by ok if your not wasteful.
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Sava700 wrote:not sure I really haven't lived anywhere else to base it off of but you can get by ok if your not wasteful.
You don't need to leve elsewhere to figure cost of living.


For the more boonies areas of VA it looks like 22-25k a year to get by. I would have thought it'd be a bit lower.
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YARDofSTUF wrote:You don't need to leve elsewhere to figure cost of living.


For the more boonies areas of VA it looks like 22-25k a year to get by. I would have thought it'd be a bit lower.
thats about right... but when fuel prices start rising over 2$/gallon people start to hurt fast since you have to drive many miles to get to a decent paying job unless your lucky. I only have to go 16miles round trip a day...I used to do only 3miles on my old job.
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Paft wrote:I would have judged things this way:

Destitute - Less than $6,000 per year
Poor - Between $6,000 and $18,000 per year
Lower Middle - Between $18,000 and $36,000 per year
Middle - Between $36,000 and $72,000 per year
Upper Middle - Between $72,000 and $108,000 per year
Rich - Greater than $108,000 per year
That looks right
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Destitute - Less than $12,000 per year
Poor - Between $12,000 and $25,000 per year
Lower Middle - Between $25,000 and $35,000 per year
Middle - Between $35,000 and $75,000 per year
Upper Middle - Between $75,000 and $150,000 per year
"Comfortable" - Between $150,000 and $250,000 per year
Rich - $250,000 or more

My version of Paft's scale.
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YARDofSTUF wrote:Destitute - Less than $12,000 per year
Poor - Between $12,000 and $25,000 per year
Lower Middle - Between $25,000 and $35,000 per year
Middle - Between $35,000 and $75,000 per year
Upper Middle - Between $75,000 and $150,000 per year
"Comfortable" - Between $150,000 and $250,000 per year
Rich - $250,000 or more

My version of Paft's scale.
most of that looks right for a couple to me.
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