Sava700 wrote:I'm one for wanting all that good stuff too ..but you need to explain to me how that is "Camping"?? When I was growing up camping was roughing it with a sleeping bag under the stars and a camp fire. We hunted for our food, fire wood, and logs or rocks to sit on. I can understand perhaps even adding a tent into the mix since they have been used for a very long time too..but heated shower?
are you freakin kidding ?!
LOL  I still like my comforts ,like NOT SMELLING ! like a warm water shower,
and sleeping good,
I will bring my own firewood and bbq charcoal ! 
and I like to eat what I want,and that doesn't include "hunting" for my food LOL  I will bring my own food,HAPPILY !
you might want to consider that most family camping areas don't allow gun fire and hunting. 
 you go ahead and do it your way,and I will happily do it my way 
and no,I didn't "need" to explain,
Sava700 wrote:. fish and hunt for your food, attempt at starting the fire with the rubbing of sticks etc...
  
 