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Why all the hate on Rush?

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Thanks to the democrats hate on Rush I started to listen to him and you know what? he makes perfect sense and he wrote this editorial in todays WSJ

There’s a serious debate in this country as to how best to end the recession. The average recession will last five to 11 months; the average recovery will last six years. Recessions will end on their own if they’re left alone. What can make the recession worse is the wrong kind of government intervention.

I believe the wrong kind is precisely what President Barack Obama has proposed. I don’t believe his is a “stimulus plan” at all — I don’t think it stimulates anything but the Democratic Party. This “porkulus” bill is designed to repair the Democratic Party’s power losses from the 1990s forward, and to cement the party’s majority power for decades.

Keynesian economists believe government spending on “shovel-ready” infrastructure projects — schools, roads, bridges — is the best way to stimulate our staggering economy. Supply-side economists make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound. That happened under JFK, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. We know that when tax rates are cut in a recession, it brings an economy back.

Recent polling indicates that the American people are in favor of both approaches.

Notwithstanding the media blitz in support of the Obama stimulus plan, most Americans, according to a new Rasmussen poll, are skeptical. Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much. Only 17% worry they will cut taxes too much. Since the American people are not certain that the Obama stimulus plan is the way to go, it seems to me there’s an opportunity for genuine compromise. At the same time, we can garner evidence on how to deal with future recessions, so every occurrence will no longer become a matter of partisan debate.

Congress is currently haggling over how to spend $900 billion generated by American taxpayers in the private sector. (It’s important to remember that it’s the people’s money, not Washington’s.) In a Jan. 23 meeting between President Obama and Republican leaders, Rep. Eric Cantor (R., Va.) proposed a moderate tax cut plan. President Obama responded, “I won. I’m going to trump you on that.”

Yes, elections have consequences. But where’s the bipartisanship, Mr. Obama? This does not have to be a divisive issue. My proposal is a genuine compromise.

Fifty-three percent of American voters voted for Barack Obama; 46% voted for John McCain, and 1% voted for wackos. Give that 1% to President Obama. Let’s say the vote was 54% to 46%. As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009: 54% of the $900 billion — $486 billion — will be spent on infrastructure and pork as defined by Mr. Obama and the Democrats; 46% — $414 billion — will be directed toward tax cuts, as determined by me.

Then we compare. We see which stimulus actually works. This is bipartisanship! It would satisfy the American people’s wishes, as polls currently note; and it would also serve as a measurable test as to which approach best stimulates job growth.

I say, cut the U.S. corporate tax rate — at 35%, among the highest of all industrialized nations — in half. Suspend the capital gains tax for a year to incentivize new investment, after which it would be reimposed at 10%. Then get out of the way! Once Wall Street starts ticking up 500 points a day, the rest of the private sector will follow. There’s no reason to tell the American people their future is bleak. There’s no reason, as the administration is doing, to depress their hopes. There’s no reason to insist that recovery can’t happen quickly, because it can.

In this new era of responsibility, let’s use both Keynesians and supply-siders to responsibly determine which theory best stimulates our economy — and if elements of both work, so much the better. The American people are made up of Republicans, Democrats, independents and moderates, but our economy doesn’t know the difference. This is about jobs now.

The economic crisis is an opportunity to unify people, if we set aside the politics. The leader of the Democrats and the leader of the Republicans (me, according to Mr. Obama) can get it done. This will have the overwhelming support of the American people. Let’s stop the acrimony. Let’s start solving our problems, together. Why wait one more day?
If he was running for President I would vote for him in a second!


For the record I never even voted in November...becuase in NY it doesn't even matter and I could not stand McCain


So Rush has a new fan and I bet has so many new fans thanks to the democrats!
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I listen to him about 3 times a year (just for the laugh). That guy can cover 15 topics in one sentence and then end with a conclusion that everyone agrees with. It's just entertainment, that's all.
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I take it you've never read a right wing site full of hate for the Clintons huh? LOL

Come on GH.......

Personally I think your just stirring the pot.

Everyone who does any reading, knows that Rush's rants aren't very reliable.
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Their latest CD is alright.
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I agree with quite a few things Limbaugh says, but stuff like this shows he can also be an absolutist bomb-thrower:
Fifty-three percent of American voters voted for Barack Obama; 46% voted for John McCain, and 1% voted for wackos.
Yes, damn those people who voted their conscience and chose someone other than the two major parties' candidates!
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Burke wrote:I agree with quite a few things Limbaugh says, but stuff like this shows he can also be an absolutist bomb-thrower:



Yes, damn those people who voted their conscience and chose someone other than the two major parties' candidates!

aside from that line his economic polices make perfect sense on how to gets this economy back on track and not go down the route of spend, spend and spend like obama and the congress wants to do
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Not sure what makes a person dumber. Losing brain cells from excessive drinking or listening to Rush Limbaugh?
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Ghosthunter wrote:Thanks to the democrats hate on Rush I started to listen to him and you know what? he makes perfect sense and he wrote this editorial in todays WSJ



If he was running for President I would vote for him in a second!


For the record I never even voted in November...becuase in NY it doesn't even matter and I could not stand McCain


So Rush has a new fan and I bet has so many new fans thanks to the democrats!

You missed an entire eight years of Limbaugh bliss in the 90's! Fortunately for them Democrats, he is not an activist, just a dilettante provocateur.

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YARDofSTUF wrote:Their latest CD is alright.
Power Windows was the last one of theirs that I really liked...the decline began after that IMO.
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Ghosthunter wrote:aside from that line his economic polices make perfect sense on how to gets this economy back on track and not go down the route of spend, spend and spend like obama and the congress wants to do

Weird..cuz that's exactly what the Reps have done under Reagan, Bush I, and big time under Bush 2 for the first 6 years of his term. Now all of a sudden, there's a problem. :rotfl:
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the oxycotin is flowing again..... :wth:
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Roody wrote:Not sure what makes a person dumber. Losing brain cells from excessive drinking or listening to Rush Limbaugh?
That's a much politer version of what I was thinking.
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Ghosthunter wrote:Thanks to the democrats hate on Rush I started to listen to him and you know what? he makes perfect sense and he wrote this editorial in todays WSJ



If he was running for President I would vote for him in a second!


For the record I never even voted in November...becuase in NY it doesn't even matter and I could not stand McCain


So Rush has a new fan and I bet has so many new fans thanks to the democrats!


GH, keep in mind, Rush, just like Olbermann, O'Reilly, Stewart, Drudge, Hannity, Matthews, etc...is a pundit, a critic. It's his job and livelihood. He makes money on negative commentary. They all do. There is no money to be made in positive political analysis. Arm-chair quarterbacks in every stretch of the imagination.

Rush appeals to people's emotions while they are still raw. If you want to be a better more informed political observer....don't let any one individual control you. Your political diet needs balance. ;)
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Humboldt wrote:That's a much politer version of what I was thinking.
I had 2 versions, but figured I should probably go with that one. :D
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Nothing wrong with Rush, mans got his own opinions.
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Burke wrote:I agree with quite a few things Limbaugh says, but stuff like this shows he can also be an absolutist bomb-thrower:



Yes, damn those people who voted their conscience and chose someone other than the two major parties' candidates!

Don't forget there are some of those (excuse the long quote, I just couldn't resist):
The Duval County Supervisor of Elections Office released the breakdown of 932 write-in votes this week. Gore got four, Bush got two. Both, however, finished behind God (6) and Colin Powell (8).
It's not that this year's ballot lacked choices for president. It had 13 of them. But it turns out that eight of those candidates ended up with fewer votes than two write-ins: Hillary Clinton (234) and Ron Paul (174). And one of the candidates actually on the ballot - Gene Amondson of the "Prohibition Party" - got only 11 votes. (Duval County spoke and said, "You'll have to pry this cold beer bottle from my ...")
Two popular write-ins were Jesus and "None of the Above." Each got 23 votes.
Also in the "None of the Above" genre: Left Blank (6), Abstain (1), Against All (1) and They Both Suck '08 (1).
CNN's Lou Dobbs got two votes, and Fox News' Bill O'Reilly one. Not that either can claim the "cable news" vote in Duval County. Comedy Central's Steven Colbert racked up four votes.
Tim Tebow got two votes. Of course, that was before the Gators beat South Carolina and a certain ol' ball coach who, by the way, didn't get a single vote. Talk about change. Once upon a time, Steve Spurrier could have cleaned up here. In this election, he finished behind Tebow and Bobby Bowden.
The Disney vote was split. Mickey Mouse 3, Donald Duck 3. (None for Minnie? Come on. As one co-worker noted, it just goes to show that America isn't ready for a female animated duck as president.)
Other cartoon characters receiving votes: Homer Simpson, Bugs Bunny and Mike Gravel.
The lone Trekkie vote went to James T. Kirk. (Spock, of course, is ineligible because he was born on Vulcan.)
Bill Cosby and Chuck Norris each got two votes, edging out a long list of celebs with one vote apiece: Oprah, Willie Nelson, Tommy Chong, Robert Redford, Ric Flair, Morgan Freeman and "Weird Al" Jankovic.
Several people involved in the Republican campaign also got votes: Mike Huckabee (21), Mitt Romney (14), Rudy Giuliani (4), Fred Thompson (2), Sam Brownback (1), Tom Tancredo (1) and "Joe the Plumber" (1).
Two voters apparently decided VP wasn't good enough for Sarah Palin. They wrote her in for president.
"Joe Biden & Sarah Palin" got a vote. Yes, together. So I'm not sure if that was for president, a debate encore or a Saturday Night Live skit.
Five undecided voters waited until the last moment and wrote in - you guessed it - "undecided."
Jay Plotkin got one vote. We don't know who cast it. We can guess who didn't.
Four former presidents, including two who are dead, got votes. Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Harry S Truman and Theodore Roosevelt.
Other receiving votes: Jack Bauer, T. Boone Pickens, Bill Nye, America and "My Dog."
There was one vote for Woods. Tiger.
A syndicated columnist, Thomas Sowell, got one vote. So did one member of the local media. A former T-U sports columnist. No, not me - although "Me" did get one write-in vote.
Sports radio host David Lamm got a vote. Before Uncle Dave starts gloating, I'd like to point out that someone wrote in "Twice Cooked Pork $4.95." I'd also like to predict I will get more votes than him in 2012.
Did I mention that I'm legally changing my name to "None of the Above"?
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