Obama's "Gathering of civis/religious leaders"....reporters/cameras banned

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:53 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/us/po ... paign.html

"When Mr. Obama met with religious leaders last week, his campaign kept out photographers and reporters and refused to share a full list of participants."

And at another rally...
"At a rally for Senator Barack Obama in Detroit on Monday, two Muslim women said they were prohibited from sitting behind the candidate because they were wearing head scarves and campaign volunteers did not want them to appear with him in news photographs or live television coverage."

Why is he attempting to hide "Muslim" from his image?

Now...based from what I've read about Muslims...if ones father is a Muslim...you are automatically born as a Muslim. Now Obama apparently removed himself from the religion when he was younger...changed his name from Barack to "Barry". Apparently if you do this before some certain age such as the mid to later teen years...that's a way to get out of the religion. Else..doing it later in life is apparently bad.

However..when someone converts to being a Muslim later in life...you take on a Muslim name, such as Ali did, Jabar, etc. So when/why did Barack ==> Barry ==> back to Barack.

This, combined with the secrecy of his civil/religious meeting.... something that makes me go "Hmmm"

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:05 am

When the common American man/woman can run for President of your great country, only then will I again have faith in America as it once stood proud and free. Ya got a ****in circus going on there. The first real President to step forth, of middle class cloth, I will faint and he will be assasinated. You folks need a revolution. No I'm not high, I said it. It doesn't matter because you as the good people of America make it that way.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:14 am

The French that you all hate gave you the Statue of Liberty. Do any of you amongst the political haze remember why, or even care? When you remember, I think things will get better, but I'm just a fool next door.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:31 am

Did you know that there are these little green beings that leave pots of gold at the end of a rainbow....the republican party told me so it must be true!

edit> I knew one of you guys would claim he's a Muslim....it was only a matter of time.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:35 am

Izzo wrote:Did you know that there are these little green beings that leave pots of gold at the end of a rainbow....the republican party told me so it must be true!

edit> I knew one of you guys would claim he's a Muslim....it was only a matter of time.

More important! Do you know why the French gave you the Statue of Liberty? lol I kill me!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:37 am

Barack Obama is Osama BIN Ladens cousin truth be told!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:47 am

Republicans should rejoice that Obama is kissin cousins with Osama because Bush and Co have had ties with that family before, during and after 911.

The kid has meant so much to the Republicans dime they haven't killed him as a favor to the Bin Laden family. It's true he runs free as we speak because his family has too much of an impact on American oil imports from the middle east.

Stop one and ask them next time you see one.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:52 am

Izzo wrote:
edit> I knew one of you guys would claim he's a Muslim....it was only a matter of time.

His choice of religion isn't the issue. It's his skirting of the matter, conflicting with his promise of being totally open in his campaign. You may (or more likely..probably not) recall in some religious threads in the past...the choice of religion doesn't impact me...people (most) have freedom to choose whatever religion and church works for them.

//back on track to intelligent replies.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:53 am

Very unfortunate the Republicans have let a few thousand young Americans die because of it though. Think of it as a minor inconvenience though. Much like Bush did when he stopped hunting the supposed 911 mastermind and vacationed with American blood in Iraq instead.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:54 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:His choice of religion isn't the issue. It's his skirting of the matter, conflicting with his promise of being totally open in his campaign.

//back on track to intelligent replies.

With the way the rednecks, hillbillies, racists and just your average moron, which unfortunately represents a good chunk of the voting public, I don't blame him. He isn't skirting anything.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:54 am

We all make mistakes.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:55 am

sito wrote:Very unfortunate the Republicans have let a few thousand young Americans die because of it though. Think of it as a minor inconvenience though. Much like Bush did when he stopped hunting the supposed 911 mastermind and vacationed with American blood in Iraq instead.

There's a far more dangerous terrorist 'round these days *spits chaw* ....and he's runnin' fer pres'dent.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:56 am

Do rednecks know why the French gave you the Statue of Liberty?

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:56 am

re the women sitting behind him and the ban of photog-reporters at the meeting is just a PR handling. This is to prevent/avert any attacks/slander by the opposition. It is thought less damaging to have media promote via such articles as above than it is to have media promote twisted stories about who sat behind him and who attended the meeting.

While I am not at all backing this candidate, I perceive this as a standard PR action by his campaign mamagement. And do realize that any public actions of a candidate have the potential to be used against the candidate by the opposition, no matter the "rightness or wrongness" of what the candidate does.

I am still going to write in a vote for Ron Paul!

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:56 am

sito wrote:Do rednecks know why the French gave you the Statue of Liberty?

Before or after a google search?

David · Post by **David** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:57 am

sito wrote:More important! Do you know why the French gave you the Statue of Liberty? lol I kill me!

Because they had a spare?

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:57 am

Izzo wrote:There's a far more dangerous terrorist 'round these days *spits chaw* ....and he's runnin' fer pres'dent.

I'm way ahead of ya. It's neither party so much as the people willing to accept them.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:58 am

David wrote:Because they had a spare?

Damn MDs know everthing. Thanks for spoiling my fun.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:00 am

Izzo wrote:Before or after a google search?

I'm digging cause I know most don't know and that's a terrible thing. WTF is going on?!!!!?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:00 am

sito wrote:Damn MDs know everthing. Thanks for spoiling my fun.

Man, and I thought it was to give shade to the fishies.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:02 am

They know who's getting scolded by chef in Hell's Kitchen though. Hence my drunk term, mashed potatoes.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:03 am

Nothing to this. It's common knowledge Obama haters are doing everything they can to muddy Obama's name. The whole Muslim angle is so ridiculous it's hard to believe there is people out there ignorant enough to buy into it, but they do.

Again we are hearing all of this because the haters know they can't rely on the good their guy does and instead must take every cheap shot possible to win.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:04 am

Barry Obama.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:04 am

Eat your mashed potatoes, pay attention to who wins American Idol and let your young marines die for nothing, just salute while the ****ing coffins come through once in a while. Annoying as that may be..

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:04 am

JBrazen wrote:Barry Obama.

They're cousins man!!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:06 am

Roody wrote:Nothing to this. It's common knowledge Obama haters are doing everything they can to muddy Obama's name. The whole Muslim angle is so ridiculous it's hard to believe there is people out there ignorant enough to buy into it, but they do.

Again we are hearing all of this because the haters know they can't rely on the good their guy does and instead must take every cheap shot possible to win.

What gets me is that's rumor, and I'm sure your current Prez could run down the line and hit facts..

David · Post by **David** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:09 am

sito wrote:Damn MDs know everthing. Thanks for spoiling my fun.

Not at all, I was trying to join in on the fun.

David · Post by **David** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:10 am

Roody wrote:Nothing to this. It's common knowledge Obama haters are doing everything they can to muddy Obama's name. The whole Muslim angle is so ridiculous it's hard to believe there is people out there ignorant enough to buy into it, but they do.

Again we are hearing all of this because the haters know they can't rely on the good their guy does and instead must take every cheap shot possible to win.

The mean IQ is 100.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:10 am

sito wrote:Republicans should rejoice that Obama is kissin cousins with Osama because Bush and Co have had ties with that family before, during and after 911.

The kid has meant so much to the Republicans dime they haven't killed him as a favor to the Bin Laden family. It's true he runs free as we speak because his family has too much of an impact on American oil imports from the middle east.

Stop one and ask them next time you see one.

I say this with a straight face.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:12 am

David wrote:Not at all, I was trying to join in on the fun.

I like my MD's humorless thank you very much!

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:16 am

Izzo wrote:Did you know that there are these little green beings that leave pots of gold at the end of a rainbow....the republican party told me so it must be true!

edit> I knew one of you guys would claim he's a Muslim....it was only a matter of time.

Yep

"At a rally for Senator Barack Obama in Detroit on Monday, two Muslim women said they were prohibited from sitting behind the candidate because they were wearing head scarves and campaign volunteers did not want them to appear with him in news photographs or live television coverage."

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:16 am

OK so much for a legit reply from someone who might know more about the Muslim religion...

Don't need insults or insinuations about it solely coming from a republican side..nor IQ counts (PS david..you're not the only one to go post college in degrees

)

...and...oh yeah....earlier on in the elections I came out of the gates intending to vote for him.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:19 am

Roody wrote:Nothing to this. It's common knowledge Obama haters are doing everything they can to muddy Obama's name. The whole Muslim angle is so ridiculous it's hard to believe there is people out there ignorant enough to buy into it, but they do.

Again we are hearing all of this because the haters know they can't rely on the good their guy does and instead must take every cheap shot possible to win.

I'd point out the grammar mistake in this post, but fear in that doing so I become what I mock.

Eh, I'm an idiot.

"it's hard to believe there is people out there"

*thrusts hips*
UNNH! Can you feel it! Yeah!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:20 am

sito wrote:Republicans should rejoice that Obama is kissin cousins with Osama because Bush and Co have had ties with that family before, during and after 911.

The kid has meant so much to the Republicans dime they haven't killed him as a favor to the Bin Laden family. It's true he runs free as we speak because his family has too much of an impact on American oil imports from the middle east.

Stop one and ask them next time you see one.

Did I mention I say this with a straight face? Anyone wanna tell me I'm full of **** and stuff?

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:23 am

brembo wrote:I'd point out the grammar mistake in this post, but fear in that doing so I become what I mock.

Eh, I'm an idiot.

"it's hard to believe there is people out there"

*thrusts hips*
UNNH! Can you feel it! Yeah!

Why did the French send the Statue of Liberty? ** box of leaches....

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:24 am

sito wrote:Did I mention I say this with a straight face? Anyone wanna tell me I'm full of **** and stuff?

Nah, but you have managed to post in triplicate and have also quoted yourself....LOL.

I thought you might go for the grandslam and post 4 times in a row but you stopped on third base.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:30 am

sito wrote:Why did the French send the Statue of Liberty? ** box of leaches....

I'm guessing as an honoring of America's freedoms and acceptance of all peoples. It was 1876 that it was either commisioned or delivered, I dunno. That's a pretty large coincidence with 1776, so my educated guess is France honoring the USA's ideal of freedom and acceptance.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:30 am

sito wrote:Why did the French send the Statue of Liberty? ** box of leaches....

It's not a statue, it's a trojan horse and a million little frenchmen with french poodles and fries will come storming out and stomp America into the abyss!!!!!

fortunately, we saw this coming....and put that b1tch in the water...now those little frenchies will have to swim!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:35 am

UOD wrote:It's not a statue, it's a trojan horse and a million little frenchmen with french poodles and fries will come storming out and stomp America into the abyss!!!!!

fortunately, we saw this coming....and put that b1tch in the water...now those little frenchies will have to swim!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Foiled again!

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:38 am

brembo wrote:I'm guessing as an honoring of America's freedoms and acceptance of all peoples. It was 1876 that it was either commisioned or delivered, I dunno. That's a pretty large coincidence with 1776, so my educated guess is France honoring the USA's ideal of freedom and acceptance.

you might be right *hammers google button*

Ya fight for it around the world, 1/3 of America knowing why it's there would be rather refreshing. You fight in the name of it.