IP Addresses; Help would be appreciated!

[Angrystrudel]

I IP change quite alot, all in the aim of getting the IP with the fastest PING. However, I have a lot of theories as to how one can distinguish how quick an IP address will be without actually using it. However I have no idea if it's working and if I'm really just losing good IPs.

This is where I hope you budding IP address literate people might be able to help me. I know basically what an IP address is, but I'd like to know what the 3rd and 4th number actually means (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX) and whether there is a system to distinguish which range of numbers will be quick in an IP.

For instance, I had a 248.1 but tragically lost it in unfortunate circumstances, I currently have a 203.1 but it's awful and alot slower than normal IPs. I was really disappointed since I know .1 has been virtually the best IP I've ever had. Is there a reason for the contrast and if so is it possible to make it quicker (perhaps it's just been over used - if I'm talking nonsense will someone please set me straight about this!)

Thanks in advance!

Angrystrudel

[YARDofSTUF]

All of you people(usually runescape nuts) are crazy. Your IP does not determine your ping. Maybe you have spyware on your PC, or someone who had that IP assigned to them in the past did and is targeted more by some bots, or maybe bots are just randomly targeting some ranges more than others, but the IP number itself doesn't create different amounts of latency.

[Angrystrudel]

All of you people(usually runescape nuts) are crazy. Your IP does not determine your ping. Maybe you have spyware on your PC, or someone who had that IP assigned to them in the past did and is targeted more by some bots, or maybe bots are just randomly targeting some ranges more than others, but the IP number itself doesn't create different amounts of latency.

It might not be ping it changes but certain IPs are better than others for whatever reason.

[Debbie]

It might not be ping it changes but certain IPs are better than others for whatever reason.

YardofStuff just explained why.

[Angrystrudel]

YardofStuff just explained why.

Ok so if they have spyware on them how do I get rid of it (and hence improve it..?)

[Debbie]

ccleaner
spybot
Adaware


I am sure there are others that they can suggest

[YeOldeStonecat]

Changing pings...you're still using the same IP...same route to the host...same primary gateway from your ISP..same backbone from your ISP. In other words...you're taking the same path to your destination. Getting a different IP from your ISP does not change your ping.

Some people may think that their performance gets better when they change their IP. But behind the scenes...what many people do to change their pings..is reboot their modem and router. This "freshens up" the modem and router...emptying the IP tables, RAM, etc....so their performance goes up. It's because of this...that their performance goes up...not from the change of IP.

[Angrystrudel]

Changing pings...you're still using the same IP...same route to the host...same primary gateway from your ISP..same backbone from your ISP. In other words...you're taking the same path to your destination. Getting a different IP from your ISP does not change your ping.

Some people may think that their performance gets better when they change their IP. But behind the scenes...what many people do to change their pings..is reboot their modem and router. This "freshens up" the modem and router...emptying the IP tables, RAM, etc....so their performance goes up. It's because of this...that their performance goes up...not from the change of IP.

So why then do I go through 50 in a day and only maybe 1-2 are moderately quick. But they all differ in speeds.

[A_old]

i lol'd.

[YeOldeStonecat]

So why then do I go through 50 in a day and only maybe 1-2 are moderately quick. But they all differ in speeds.

Many variables there...timing of when you log into a server..current server loads at that time ....dunno.

I online game in the morning and night..heavy loads with BF2...I never bother changing my IP...I go for months on the same one.

Tuning your computer...keeping it clean, malware free, low impact antivirus
Quality router, setup correctly...only 1x router..no double NAT'ing
Be aware of other traffic loads on your network...router
Quality ISP

[Debbie]

::::::takes notes:::::

[Angrystrudel]

Many variables there...timing of when you log into a server..current server loads at that time ....dunno.

I online game in the morning and night..heavy loads with BF2...I never bother changing my IP...I go for months on the same one.

Tuning your computer...keeping it clean, malware free, low impact antivirus
Quality router, setup correctly...only 1x router..no double NAT'ing
Be aware of other traffic loads on your network...router
Quality ISP

My ISP is bad but never had a problem before in terms of getting a good IP. As for keeping my computer clean I defrag files, optimise my internet connections and scan my computer daily.

[jasonb31]

i lol'd.

exactly

[YARDofSTUF]

My ISP is bad but never had a problem before in terms of getting a good IP. As for keeping my computer clean I defrag files, optimise my internet connections and scan my computer daily.

Scan with what?

Do you have a virus scanner as well?

Router? Software firewall?

For scanning for spyware/adware, start with CCleaner, then scan with spybot, super antispyware, and if you want a 3rd for good luck windows defender.

To help prevent spyware use the immunize feature of spybot as well as install spyware blaster.

Adaware has become useless IMO.

[Angrystrudel]

exactly

Yes, because replying on an internet speed website over 300 times is a better use of my time.

Anyway, back on topic, thanks for feedback. I'll leave this obviously overnight see if any new information comes in. I do think however a lot of people's opinions on IP Adresses are wrong, I think they contrast more than people think.

[Angrystrudel]

Scan with what?

Do you have a virus scanner as well?

Router? Software firewall?

For scanning for spyware/adware, start with CCleaner, then scan with spybot, super antispyware, and if you want a 3rd for good luck windows defender.

To help prevent spyware use the immunize feature of spybot as well as install spyware blaster.

Adaware has become useless IMO.

AVG I use...and I have a firewall.

[Debbie]

AVG I use...and I have a firewall.

Not enough...

As they said above

Spybot
Spyware Blaster
Super Anti Spyware
CCleaner
Windows Defender

[RoundEye]

Changing your IP for better pings is like changing your house address so that your snail mail gets there quicker.

Just like your data takes the same route to the IP, the mailman will too. Unless you leave him a bottle of good scotch, that might change his mind a bit.

[CableDude]

Not enough...

As they said above

Super Anti Spyware

Check my thread in the software forum.

[drdoug99]

I heard that 127.0.0.1 is the fastest IP address you can get. I know for me I get <1 ms speed all the time.

[CableDude]

I heard that 127.0.0.1 is the fastest IP address you can get. I know for me I get <1 ms speed all the time.

[Dan]

, the mailman will too. Unless you leave him a bottle of good scotch, that might change his mind a bit.

thats like going from DSL to Dial-up !

[Paft]

Yes, because replying on an internet speed website over 300 times is a better use of my time.

Anyway, back on topic, thanks for feedback. I'll leave this obviously overnight see if any new information comes in. I do think however a lot of people's opinions on IP Adresses are wrong, I think they contrast more than people think.

Your IP address is nothing more than a pointer to your computer from the internet, much like your house number is nothing more than a pointer to your house from the street. Changing IP addresses does nothing for your speed - the only performance loss or gain that you see is from the varying times of day and server loads at that point.

Latency ("ping") is determined by the speed of the TCP/IP transmission between you and the server on the other end, modified by the routers that your transmission passes through. For example, take a look at this tracert I did for SpeedGuide.net:

Tracing route to speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.191.191.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 63.226.242.166
3 56 ms 57 ms 57 ms tukw-dsl-gw20-212.tukw.qwest.net [63.231.10.212]

4 57 ms 57 ms 57 ms tukw-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.217.184.153]
5 75 ms 73 ms 74 ms snj-core-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.32.10]
6 75 ms 74 ms 75 ms sjp-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.214.42]
7 158 ms 74 ms 74 ms te-10-0-0.edge2.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.68.111.17
3]
8 78 ms 89 ms 74 ms vlan89.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.190]
9 77 ms 89 ms 74 ms ae-83-83.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.233]

10 82 ms 88 ms 90 ms ae-2.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.10]
11 92 ms 89 ms 89 ms ae-83-83.csw3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.4
2]
12 83 ms 89 ms 90 ms ae-82-82.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.2
5]
13 129 ms 125 ms 126 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.78]
14 115 ms 115 ms 118 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.154]

15 116 ms 112 ms 122 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.121]

16 150 ms 153 ms 151 ms ae-1-12.bar2.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.137.117]
17 154 ms 153 ms 153 ms ae-7-7.car2.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.41]
18 153 ms 152 ms 154 ms ae-24-24.car4.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.66]
19 153 ms 153 ms 154 ms HOSTWAY-COR.car4.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.71.2.14]
20 153 ms 152 ms 153 ms e49te.dr5.as30217.net [84.40.24.82]
21 151 ms 154 ms 154 ms bce0-ss1.sr1a.as30217.net [84.40.24.134]
22 153 ms 152 ms 153 ms speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]

Each line you see is a different router that's routing my TCP/IP transmissions (normally called "packets") to the SpeedGuide.net servers. Each number you see followed by an "ms", like "153 ms" is the latentcy (ping) for that one packet to the server - tracert does three packets per server. And as you can see, each server has a different latency, TENDING TO increase the farther the packets are routed - but not always. And if I did this tracert again in two hours, the ping times would be vastly different. If I did it during the internet's rush hour where there's a ton of people online? Different again. If I did a DDoS attack on SpeedGuide's server and caused it to bog down, the ping times would be different too. My IP address doesn't affect those fundimental rules of the internet, and neither does yours or anyone else's.

You might want to pick up a basic networking book from your local library and study the section on TCP/IP. It'll clear things up for you quite quickly.

[ghost]

Networking 101: Even-numbered IPs are faster because there's never an odd packet that has to wait for a "buddy" in order to come in on the binary line. That's why Noah lined up the animals two-by-two...it's more efficient - there's no "third man out" odd aardvark on the ramp holding up the lemurs, etc.

For extra speed, paint your computer to look like an ark and draw arrows on the CAT-5, pointing the way to your computer.

[Angrystrudel]

Networking 101: Even-numbered IPs are faster because there's never an odd packet that has to wait for a "buddy" in order to come in on the binary line. That's why Noah lined up the animals two-by-two...it's more efficient - there's no "third man out" odd aardvark on the ramp holding up the lemurs, etc.

For extra speed, paint your computer to look like an ark and draw arrows on the CAT-5, pointing the way to your computer.

Thanks for the even numbers confirmation.

As for others, I agree that PING isn't affected (i.e speed tests show no noticable difference which is forming a pattern relative to numbers) however it does affect the speed in which information is transmitted to my internet so there is something it does affect.

[YeOldeStonecat]

[Debbie]

[Paft]

Thanks for the even numbers confirmation.

As for others, I agree that PING isn't affected (i.e speed tests show no noticable difference which is forming a pattern relative to numbers) however it does affect the speed in which information is transmitted to my internet so there is something it does affect.

You don't understand sarcasm, do you?

[Izzo]

Thanks for the even numbers confirmation.

As for others, I agree that PING isn't affected (i.e speed tests show no noticable difference which is forming a pattern relative to numbers) however it does affect the speed in which information is transmitted to my internet so there is something it does affect.

You need a bigger power supply....more power to send stuff through the tubes faster. Also, you need the KillerNIC

[YARDofSTUF]

You don't understand sarcasm, do you?

Apparently not from even numbered replies.

[Roody]

Networking 101: Even-numbered IPs are faster because there's never an odd packet that has to wait for a "buddy" in order to come in on the binary line. That's why Noah lined up the animals two-by-two...it's more efficient - there's no "third man out" odd aardvark on the ramp holding up the lemurs, etc.

For extra speed, paint your computer to look like an ark and draw arrows on the CAT-5, pointing the way to your computer.

I admit I seriously laughed at that, but we should be nice to the new guy.

[Roody]

You need a bigger power supply....more power to send stuff through the tubes faster. Also, you need the KillerNIC

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[ghost]

I admit I seriously laughed at that, but we should be nice to the new guy.

I had a weak moment.

On the other hand, a proper indoctrination was necessary.

[Roody]

I had a weak moment.

On the other hand, a proper indoctrination was necessary.

It was funny.

All that said welcome aboard new guy.

[A_old]

I hear the 256.x.x.x range of IPs is the best for pings.

[Angrystrudel]

I hear the 256.x.x.x range of IPs is the best for pings.

Ho ho ho if I only i had thought of making fun of someone asking for help. If I knew about it I wouldn't be asking, so making fun of my IP illiteracy isn't that rational.

[Ken]

Ease up guys, he seems to be here to learn, just like we have...

AS, don't let them get to you. Really, they are harmless...

[Paft]

Ho ho ho if I only i had thought of making fun of someone asking for help. If I knew about it I wouldn't be asking, so making fun of my IP illiteracy isn't that rational.

See, if you were willing to listen, you'd learn. However, you throw aside any valid reply that doesn't agree with your preconcieved notions, and as such, you paint yourself to be a target for redicule. If you actually listened and were willing to learn, we'd welcome you more readily.

[jasonb31]

Ho ho ho if I only i had thought of making fun of someone asking for help. If I knew about it I wouldn't be asking, so making fun of my IP illiteracy isn't that rational.

Don't get upset. We mean no harm. Welcome. This is the general discussion area, You should have asked the question in the Networking forum or the Tweaking forum and then they would have told you.
The person to talk to about Networking is YeOldestoneCat as thats what he does for a living. The person to talk to about tweaking is Troger, mccoffee or YeOldestonecat. Don't listen to Rollingstone because he tries to be an expert when he is not. Just be polite and ask them for help and they will gladly assist you.

[chielt]

as for most internet servers its just like a name but in runescape servers
when people click at the same time whitch happens allot becouse so many people on it it goes trough a protocol of who gets the click first its like aphabetical order for retrieving it,

ip = 123.124.125.1

123= first
.124= 2nd
.125= 3rd
.1 = 4th

its been tested for example

( talking about 3rd and 4rth here under )
i used be 144.15
my friend ameraca had .9

he always klicked faster then me but now i got .6
and now i klick faster then him my friend cord had .2
and clock faster then anyone but my other friend tom has .1 and klick faster then him as long as your 3rd is good it depense on who lawer 4th it been proven right for runescape i doubt it works for internet in general becouse it never made my internet go faster all it dit was giving my self a faster klick to get the flag instead then other people it doenst acrease your speed but like giving u higher priorety over others.

if u don't believe so be it but this is what i found out ^^