Breastfeeding Mom Booted from Victoria's Secret

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:57 pm

Ironically this week also;

http://www.local6.com/news/6677484/detail.html

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- In a Victoria's Secret store, surrounded by frilly bras and blown-up images of barely covered models, Lori Rueger says she was told to find somewhere else to breast feed.

Rueger's story -- told during a hearing in support of a state bill to ensure breast feeding is allowed in public places -- so angered a state lawmaker that he's urging women to form a national Mothers Against Victoria's Secret movement.

"It's really kind of subhuman behavior. And subhuman behavior warrants some kind of strong response other than just a little law that we pass in South Carolina," Rep. Walt McLeod, D-Little Mountain, said Wednesday.

Rueger was one of more than a couple of dozen mothers, doctors, lawyers and other breast-feeding advocates who were on hand to urge passage of the bill.

The 29-year-old Charleston mother testified that she was in a Victoria's Secret store in suburban Mount Pleasant and was told by an employee that she could not breast feed her baby in a dressing room and was encouraged to use a restroom in a nearby store instead.

A Victoria's Secret spokesman described what happened with Rueger as a misunderstanding and said it has actually had a positive effect by reopening a dialogue on the issue.

Victoria's Secret has a "long-standing policy to allow nursing in our stores. We are still for and about women," said Anthony Hebron, spokesman for the chain's parent, Limited Brands.

The breast-feeding bill may face a tough time in the House Judiciary Committee next week from Rep. John Graham Altman, R-Charleston, who says he supports the concept, but not the mandate on businesses.

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:03 pm

I would personally prefer not to bear witness to others' breastfeeding. Besides making me jealous

I just would rather not participate in others' expelling bodily juices.

Why don't we just start putting free-standing urinals in stores? Both breastfeeding and pissing are natural, bodily functions(?)

And where are the morals? Exposing children to thongs at such an early age!

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:08 pm

I have no problem with people breast feeding, but private businesses should be able to limit what happens on their property even if you don't agree with their decisions.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:10 pm

cyberskye wrote:I would personally prefer not to bear witness to others' breastfeeding. Besides making me jealous I just would rather not participate in others' expelling bodily juices.

Why don't we just start putting free-standing urinals in stores? Both breastfeeding and pissing are natural, bodily functions(?)

And where are the morals? Exposing children to thongs at such an early age!

Be prepared to be savaged.

See....now it was in a dressing room not amongst the garter beltls etc... A dressing room would be a semi private lcoation.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:12 pm

Wasn't this topic covered yesterday in full?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:14 pm

Lefty wrote:Wasn't this topic covered yesterday in full?

a little different but yes it was.

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:15 pm

Lefty wrote:Wasn't this topic covered yesterday in full?

Is a frog's a$$ watertight?

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:20 pm

I thought no food and drinks are allowed in the store.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:28 pm

Immortal wrote:I thought no food and drinks are allowed in the store.

The rules change when there are babies in demand.....and lactating mothers in da house.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:37 pm

Jeez if it was in the dressing room and even if it was a communal dressing room, they were all women...whats the big friggin deal!

Pie

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:41 pm

Izzo wrote:Be prepared to be savaged.

See....now it was in a dressing room not amongst the garter beltls etc... A dressing room would be a semi private lcoation.

In this case, I agree (the thong bit was a throwback to Bouncers post on violence vs boobies.

That law that was mentioned would require breastfeeding to be allowed anywhere and everywhere - that's a little extreme. If I run a business, I want to be able to dictate appropriate behaviour or ask people to leave my store...

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:44 pm

Same thing happened my wife in Sears. She was told by another woman (electronics dept mangr. in Bakersfield, Ca) she had to nurse in the restroom.

Now my wife does cover herself with a blanket, but even if she didn't telling someone they cannot nurse their child is way out of line. The fact that it was a woman made it even more bizarre, although she was ghetto famulous.

If you don't like what you see then don't look!

Needless to say when I got done with the Sears store manager I walked out the door with a $100 dollar gift certificate.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:11 pm

In this case, I see it as totally different than the public swimming pool thread.

She was in the dressing room, behind whatever form of doors or curtain they have...so we can assume she was in privacy...not in the face of other people.

Perhaps there's more to the story then we are seeing.....staff suspected her of shoplifting...but no visual proof, etc.

Did so on a regular basis

In there for a really long time...lingering...

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:14 pm

it's a private store, they can do what they want

voice your dislike by not shopping there if you so strongly disagree with them

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:22 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:In this case, I see it as totally different than the public swimming pool thread.

She was in the dressing room, behind whatever form of doors or curtain they have...so we can assume she was in privacy...not in the face of other people.

Perhaps there's more to the story then we are seeing.....staff suspected her of shoplifting...but no visual proof, etc.

Did so on a regular basis

In there for a really long time...lingering...

Ditto

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:24 pm

Brent wrote:it's a private store, they can do what they want

voice your dislike by not shopping there if you so strongly disagree with them

ARRRG..AHH...must resist agreeing AAHHHH... can't do it. Gotta agree.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:26 pm

wow deja - vu

i got a question..why is it mostly guys arguing about women's issues? men are the ones who usually most vocal about breast feeding..anti abortion...

i say get a transgender sex change..might solve some problems lol

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:40 pm

Augustus wrote:wow deja - vu

i got a question..why is it mostly guys arguing about women's issues? men are the ones who usually most vocal about breast feeding..anti abortion...

i say get a transgender sex change..might solve some problems lol

just a guess here but there are more guys on this site than women?

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:40 pm

triniwasp wrote:Same thing happened my wife in Sears. She was told by another woman (electronics dept mangr. in Bakersfield, Ca) she had to nurse in the restroom.

Now my wife does cover herself with a blanket, but even if she didn't telling someone they cannot nurse their child is way out of line. The fact that it was a woman made it even more bizarre, although she was ghetto famulous. If you don't like what you see then don't look!

Needless to say when I got done with the Sears store manager I walked out the door with a $100 dollar gift certificate.

Devils advocate...by that logic, I should be able to walk around pleasuring myself in public places - hand down my pants, as it were. If you don't like it, don't look, right?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:41 pm

cyberskye wrote:Devils advocate...by that logic, I should be able to walk around pleasuring myself in public places - hand down my pants, as it were. If you don't like it, don't look, right?

lol, I was thinkin' the same thing yesterday..... or sex in the pool .... i mean it's a natural act right ?

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:51 pm

cyberskye wrote:Devils advocate...by that logic, I should be able to walk around pleasuring myself in public places - hand down my pants, as it were. If you don't like it, don't look, right?

Apples and oranges homie. Pleasuring yourself and nourishing an infant are two completely separate things.

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:55 pm

triniwasp wrote:Apples and oranges homie. Pleasuring yourself and nourishing an infant are two completely separate things.

not COMPLETELY different. Both are very natural and are related to the cycle of life.

I agree it is extreme example, but on some level, the two are the same.

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:32 pm

why not just go into the bathroom? There really isnt any reason that i can see that its necessary to do it in public.

De Plano · Post by **De Plano** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:42 pm

Meggie wrote:why not just go into the bathroom? There really isnt any reason that i can see that its necessary to do it in public.

You like hanging out in public bathrooms?

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:48 pm

De Plano wrote:You like hanging out in public bathrooms?

nope. but there are times i gotta be in there.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:51 pm

Izzo wrote:just a guess here but there are more guys on this site than women?

Brent doesn't count, he is not sure what he wants to be.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:56 pm

Lefty wrote:Brent doesn't count, he is not sure what he wants to be.

LOL

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:51 pm

Meggie wrote:why not just go into the bathroom? There really isnt any reason that i can see that its necessary to do it in public.

Meggie...maybe not now, but when you have a kid and if you decide to breastfeed, you may think differently when its time to take care of your child. When that baby starts screaming that it wants to eat...your motherly instincts will kick in and say "screw this..Im feedin my baby and not in some dirty disgusting bathroom where people pee and defocate"

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:11 pm

Meggie wrote:why not just go into the bathroom? There really isnt any reason that i can see that its necessary to do it in public.

Do you have kids?

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:28 pm

If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:36 pm

cyberskye wrote:Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

Ya, my sis did that for both my nieces. She didn't like the idea of nursing in public either.

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:39 pm

cyberskye wrote:If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

We did that, but that doesn't cover you 100% of the time. Wifey can only produce so much milk.

Nothing rude about nursing your child.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:39 pm

cyberskye wrote:If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

Hmm..sounds familiar. I swear I read this somewhere

De Plano · Post by **De Plano** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:42 pm

cyberskye wrote:If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

restaraunts?

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:49 pm

cyberskye wrote:If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

The machine is not so good for the womans breasts..it can cause problems and then the baby won't be able to feed.

emilyb · Post by **emilyb** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:04 pm

Meggie wrote:why not just go into the bathroom? There really isnt any reason that i can see that its necessary to do it in public.

Next time you go to McDonald's, why not just take your Big Mac into the restroom and chow down in the stall?

emilyb · Post by **emilyb** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:09 pm

cyberskye wrote:If breasts can't be shown on tv, why should it be ok in the grocery store?

Seriously tho - why not get a milking machine and fill a few bottle before going out? As I posted before, sharing your bodily functions in public is a little rude.

As I have posted before, there are times this is not an option. Some babies cannot switch between breast and bottle, and vice versa.

I nursed in public several times, no one ever saw my breast. Some people get just as weirded out by seeing a blanket draped over a shoulder. It is not an issue of nudity.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:22 pm

I wonder if the two threads shouldn't be combined....

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:36 pm

downhill wrote:I wonder if the two threads shouldn't be combined....

Yeah Baby!

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:46 pm

use a blanket to cover it up at least. I was walking into a grocery store down here and someone was breast feeding their baby while walking down the sidewalk. the kid was finished apparently and the women seemed to be in no hurry to cover up....WTF!!