NEW Program I found....

Dragonwc99 · Post by **Dragonwc99** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:35 am

I dunno if it has been posted before...but..if it has Sorry..lol

http://www.speederxp.com/en/

check this out..I've heard good reviews...tell me what you guys think...any differience...?

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:22 am

I have yet to find an app that compares to X-Setup, over 1000 tweaks and it's FREE.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:36 am

X-Setup is sweat. You can wreak some serious havoc if you don't know what you're doing with it though. Trust me I've learned the hard way. It just tought me how to use it though.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:44 am

I tried SpeederXP and it does something, using default setting's, RWIN or TCP Window Size of 17520, Cablenut blank, all boxes, 3 tries, all above 3000 KB's, Still playing with it:

here

No icon in taskbar

Andrzej · Post by **Andrzej** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:35 am

yours ...No icon in taskbar...

do you mean System Tray ?
System Tray = right, down corner with clock

also
I use X-setup
"NAME"="Move AutoRun Items"
"TEXT 1"="System->User"
"TEXT 2"="Show Info"
"TEXT 3"="User->System"
to move auto lunch prgs from user to system

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:05 am

System tray, whatever, this is crazy, default setting's

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:41 am

Progress:

JeffL · Post by **JeffL** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:53 pm

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:12 pm

Crazy, default settings

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:23 pm

No it's not "crazy", it's what everyone has been trying to tell you for so long...... that there is no benefit whatsoever in using those ridiculous RWINs you post. You prove it to yourself just as everyone proves it to you that they don't speed up your connection yet tomorrow or next week you will be posting them once again.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:00 pm

As always, you don't know what your talking about, never before did default settings do above without that program, grin

G|-|oST · Post by **G|-|oST** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:29 pm

Well here we go... This sounds familiar again... Ah yes we've been over this already
https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... did=109008

Yes what is the purpose of posting these pictures? It seems that every once in a while Lobo feels the need for attention and he starts posting these stupid pictures of speed tests. Just to start another pointless discussion. The differences in speeds are always minor from one time to another (as everyone knows you never get the EXACT same results from an online speed test), but every time Lobo announces some new BS discovery ( if its not Sun vs MS java version, its the fact that he gets faster downloads while flushing his toilet ) This is pointless and serves no purpose, and always mnosteele52 is there to point out the stupidity of his latest claims. In one of the threads I pointed out that all he was trying to do is brag about his speeds, and when I posted a pic of a much higher speed test result, the first thing Lobo said was that it was way slow. I think you get the idea. Don't take his posts seriously, this is just his life long quest to have the most posts on here or something like that.

person · Post by **person** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:16 pm

I edited my registry and got a big difference

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:39 pm

I think Steele and Lobo need their own sitcom. You guys are great.

We should do one long thread of all your conversations to date. That would be the best.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:22 am

If I did not post pictures someone would say they were "Tampered "with.I like to do it to show people and to goat you know who, hehe. I am not trying to argue just show what is happening, everyone can do as they wish

LeslieSmith · Post by **LeslieSmith** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 11:20 am

I checked out this program and I think I've found out what it does.

It appears to change the CPU priority of all programs executed after SpeederXP is started. Running everything as fast as possible can improve downloads for some, but a Cablenut/XQSetup inspired reg hack can do so much more.

Also this program can destabilize some systems especially when running older programs. (Many older programs gag on higher runtime speeds. Especially those that are 16bit based.) I haven't examined the program very closely so far, but it doesn't seem to be able to save settings or apply anything at system Startup. This looks to be intentional though. The reason runs into the next paragraph.

People will now be looking for ways to do the same thing via freeware or a reg hack. XQSetup does offer the option to force all .EXEs to run in Realtime mode, but even this won't effect programs and Services at system Startup until they've started running. (Basically "installed" in memory, in the case for NT Services and drivers.) The reason being is that no machine I've EVER seen is 100% stable with EVERYTHING running at the highest priority at Startup. If applied after the Startup, you're okay.

Another method to do all of this for NT based OSes is to use the Task Manager to alter a running program's priority (ALT-TAB out of your game and change things to your liking.) or go to the main Microsoft site and do a search for the following-> realtime priority start <- to find out more about the START command. It's a little something you can add to shortcuts on NT based machines to change the priority of a program to anything you want. (Technically you could use this command and more to alter the registry to force your Services into various priority modes at system Startup, but for the reasons already mentioned, it's not advised.)

In short- Does it work as advertised? Yes. It's just not a replacement for properly configured cable/modem settings. Is it worth your time and cash? Sure. It's cheaper than other programs that do the same thing (Like WinTasks4.) and far easier to use.

Of course I reserve the right to be full of crap about any of this at any time so believe what you want.

Leslie

Andrzej · Post by **Andrzej** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:24 pm

agree

...visit without LOBO's post is wasting of time... hehehe

Loonatic · Post by **Loonatic** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 9:17 pm

That post on page 1 told it all..

Yes what is the purpose of posting these pictures? It seems that every once in a while Lobo feels the need for attention and he starts posting these stupid pictures of speed tests. Just to start another pointless discussion. The differences in speeds are always minor from one time to another (as everyone knows you never get the EXACT same results from an online speed test), but every time Lobo announces some new BS discovery ( if its not Sun vs MS java version, its the fact that he gets faster downloads while flushing his toilet ) This is pointless and serves no purpose, and always mnosteele52 is there to point out the stupidity of his latest claims. In one of the threads I pointed out that all he was trying to do is brag about his speeds, and when I posted a pic of a much higher speed test result, the first thing Lobo said was that it was way slow. I think you get the idea. Don't take his posts seriously, this is just his life long quest to have the most posts on here or something like that.

Lobo, honestly, your pictures prove NOTHING, at all. Speed tests with no credibility at all, all within 2-3 KB/sec about going from RWIN 205986t9459 to o3t0940yt49y9j.

LeslieSmith · Post by **LeslieSmith** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 11:43 pm

Addendum-

The highest setting on the program appears to set things to what as known as "System" Priority. "System" is the absolute highest priority available but is NOT seen as an option on the standard Task Manager because it is very dangerous. (My system has a crappy 800mhz processor but over 1gig of RAM so my OS has plenty of room to play with.)

Actually Lobo was right.

He did say he didn't know how the program worked. (And I'm not a programmer by any means. Just an avid tweaker from my Apple II days.) It's just not an actual Cable/modem tweaker and therefor won't offer more stable download speeds or better connections. It's for the ENTIRE system which would speed up anything, including the AFD subsystem and your browser. Like Lobo I recommend the program but for different reasons. These types of process priority tweaks can only be done externally by manipulating the Windows API via a program of some form. Most of these programs are very expensive and very difficult to use. If you could save settings that could be applied on Startup (Post Service and driver loading for stability.) I'd buy it.

If you can't afford something like WinTasks4, buy it now.

Leslie

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:21 pm

LeslieSmith what you are referring to is the Win32PrioritySeparation tweak, it gives more cpu cycles to the foreground app it has absolutely no effect on your bandwidth. It is found in 2K & XP under the following registry entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl

Win32PrioritySeparation

DWORD value of 26 hexidecimal is the optimum value.

You can also enable a feature with X-Setup to have the option of your right click menu to start any app in high priority, this can also be done by manually editing the registry but it's much safer for a newbie to do it with an app. There is nothing this app does for your bandwidth, it is just a tweaking app like many others out there. I recommend X-Setup because it's FREE and contains every tweak I have found in all these other apps combined, there is no need to pay money for something you can do for free.

What myself and everyone else are referring to with Lobo is his consistency to post frivolous speed tests that nobody cares about. He continuously posts these results that are inaccurate to begin with and all within a few kilobits of each other, not proving a thing. But he seems to amuse himself with it while taking up space on the forum.

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:25 pm

this program has nothing to do with win priority seperation. its entirely different.

this program is just a redesigned CS hack that made CS run superfast. its like one version of the CS hack that worked in windows. made your entire machine faster.

i use SpeederXP and if you want your programs to run superfast like twice as fast as normal, make webpages run faster and such use it, its not gunna hurt anything.. it migh heat up your cpu a bit from being tasked more, but thats why you dont turn it up so far.

it can on the other hand make your networking fall apart in the respect that its trying to do things faster than the network actually is,, again that is if you go to fast..

why did this guy post a subject about SpeederXP and instantly everyone jumps on Xteq.,.. ??? xteq and speederxp and 2 absolutely different programs, speeder is not a tweak is a kernel hack. and it works,, beyond a shadow of a doubt it works,, try it it aint gunna hurt windows..

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:38 pm

V_LESTAT a "kernel hack" is a registry hack. All this app does is set the priority to high or real-time for the application in question, it's not worth spending the money when you can do it yourself for free. Nobody said that SpeederXP and X-Setup are the same, but you can do the same thing with X-Setup for free, actually you don't need any app to do it, just hit ctrl - alt - del and change the priority for whatever app you want. And yes it can hurt something, your OS, it can lock it up if you run too many apps at high or real-time priority.

If it sounds too good to be true........ then it is.

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:31 am

Steele -

i can guarentee you that beyond a shadow of a doubt that this thing has nothing to do with setting the program to high or realtime.. nor does it evenb touch the win32 priority seperation.. its entirely different, just for once trust meon this one.. or go download it yourself.. it dont hurt your system and its worth a try to take a look..

download install.. its that easy.. turn it up to about 11,000(10,000 is default) or even 12,000 but i guarentee that any highers and your start having troubles cuz windows and the cpu cant handle it.

open up IE or a game or something... you'll sh|t your pants..
take any game or ANY program.. hell just start opening up windows in windows explorer.. you'll see.
even the highest priority you can run windows on wont even make it run faster.. all it does is tell it take priority over other programs.. this program makes things run FASTER .. i mean it takes like 2 second to open this program.. NOW it oly takes 0.5 seconds. same with games ,, guns reload at light speed, weapons unload at light speed,,, running.. oh hell.. runing is a trip,, you can set it to about 10,500 for multiplayer and you'll be FAST FAST FAST, if the server has good ping.. you'll only show a slight lag.. more like a very slight warp. and you can actually run, with total control.. all the way to the other persons spawn point before they hardly get anywhere...

its changing the time with the cpu... .. aarrrgg i used to know exactly what these programs like this did but i know for a fact its nothing to do with program priority or win32 device priority seperation.

hell open a program you know takes a few seconds because it has to load up a bunch of stuff.. then open it with this on... it will open in only a fraction of the time... no real time priority will do that

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:50 am

V_LESTAT I'll download it and check it out, I have tried so many apps like this, just to give them all a "fair shake" and none of them do what they claim. Either they don't work at all or it's something that is easy to do on your own for free.

JeffL · Post by **JeffL** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:34 am

Damn this proggie does somethin sw33t!

I have mine up to 16000

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:01 pm

you guys! aarrggg!!! lol your missing the point of what this program does,, its not a windows task program like it says, it dont raise the priority of the X program,, it slams your cpu in a way.. how do i explain this..

long ago there was a speed hack for CS, but it worked with windows, and only worked for 98 and ME.. it was a tiny exe file and a driver. i still have it and can upload it to anyone who wants to look at it, and is a programmer and can understand driver language,, i dont understand that stuff.

at one point i was told that it tells the cpu that more time has passed that what has actually passed, so windows speeds everything up to try and catch up.... something like that.. he may have been wrong.. he may have just been trying to explain it to me in a way i could understand.. who knows.

like this..

A program works with the CPU in such a way that the cpu knows it takes, lets say 2 seconds to open the program, or execute xxx lines of code. well add the speed hack and it tells the cpu "Hey 2 seconds have already passed you better hurry up and execute such and such program, or X line of code" and it does that, makeing games, programs and web page loading run faster.
it does NOT make the internet, and your download speed faster, in fact it can cause downloads to slow down because the CPU is telling the networking to do things ahead of schedule, (so to speak) it causing lost packets and such if you go too high.

go to a website that as pic graphics or pictures,, like a desktop wallpaper site,, now find a nice big picture and look at it, now turn on SpeederXP and click on the same one,, of course learing your cache before you do this. and you will knowtice the stuff loads in 1/2 to 1/4 the time depending on what speed you have set it too.

its not a priority program its not a windows task program.. it different.
its some sort of a true kernell hack, not just a registry entry, it goes right to the heart of windows and everything it does, and then works with the cpu.

JeffL · Post by **JeffL** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:54 pm

It def. works alrighty, but it made Blue Shift load in a funky window and the keys were too quick LOL

And after I quit the proggie it made XP freeze, and BTW, my computer doesn't shut off on its own anymore, it has the 98SE shutdown bug now, just like 98SE! Ahh!

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:20 pm

ok for games i dont really recommend having it set any higher than 10,500 maybe 10,600 but after that it runs the program toooooo fast and unplayable and it WILL start locking..
DO NOT SHUT DOWN WINDOWS with this program running.. your just asking for trouble.

the program does not run in windows start up, nor as a service,, its just a program. you control if and when it runs and how fast.

the speed at which you can run the proram is ENTIRELY dependant on your system speed, i have a Pent 4 1.8ghz with 1280 megs pc800 rdram, and my hard drives are on a Silicon Image Ultra 133 IDE Raid Controller, i believe i ran it up to 13,000 before windows started locking.. but i dont even go above 11,000 now when surfing or running programs..

and dont watch any movies with it running faster than default.. or music

some tid bits of info for you to think about.