Quake Live

[Faust]

got in a couple rounds with cat. since im at a lower level i knew i was going to get schooled before i even started so this time i didnt do the "yall need to learn to cheat in a way that isnt obvious" bit. thought at my sometimes pitiful skill level its the only excuse i got

we can try chicago servers sometime too.

[YeOldeStonecat]

You beat me on a couple of rounds last night.

I'll be on for a bit tonight too, starting in a few mins.

[Faust]

ah, the cheat thing was just a joke. was being a drama queen

i have my moments. just not sustainable. getting on a roll is fun for sure

[YARDofSTUF]

A bump and update on the config file as they have added new cvars.

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// Config File

unbindall

// Bind Movement

bind w "+forward"
bind a "+moveleft"
bind s "+back"
bind d "+moveright"
bind SPACE "+moveup"
bind CTRL "+movedown"
bind SHIFT "+speed"
bind f "+button2"
bind END "dropflag; say_team ^3Low Health! Take FLAG!!"
bind g "dropweapon"
bind MOUSE1 "+attack"
bind MOUSE2 "+zoom"
bind MWHEELDOWN "weapprev"
bind MWHEELUP "weapnext"


// Bind General

bind TAB "+scores"
bind h "+chat"
bind t "messagemode"
bind y "messagemode2"
bind F1 "vote yes"
bind F2 "vote no"
bind F3 "readyup"


// Bind Weapons

//bind  "weapon 1" // Gauntlet
//bind  "weapon 3" // Shotgun
//bind  "weapon 5" // Rocket Launcher
//bind  "weapon 6" // Lightning Gun
//bind  "weapon 7" // Railgun
//bind  "weapon 12" // Prox Mines

bind 1 "weapon 2" // Machine Gun
bind 5 "weapon 4" // Grenade Launcher
bind 2 "weapon 8" // Plasma Rifle
bind 6 "weapon 9" // BFG
bind 4 "weapon 11" // Nailgun
bind 3 "weapon 13" // Chaingun


// Bind Extras

bind = "record"
bind - "stoprecord"
bind F4 "exec autoexec"
bind F5 "cg_forceEnemyModel keel"
bind F6 "cg_forceEnemyModel keel/sport"
bind F7 "cg_forceEnemyModel keel/bright; cg_enemyHeadColor 0x000000FF; cg_enemyUpperColor 0xFFFFFFFF; cg_enemyLowerColor 0xFFFFFFFF"
bind F8 "cg_forceEnemyModel keel/bright; cg_enemyHeadColor 0x000000FF; cg_enemyUpperColor 0xFFFF00FF; cg_enemyLowerColor 0xFFFF00FF"
bind F12 "screenshotJPEG"


// VSTR Binds

seta RLswitch "weapon 5; set RLSGswitch vstr SGswitch"
Seta SGswitch "weapon 3; set RLSGswitch vstr RLswitch"
seta RLSGswitch "vstr RLswitch"
bind q "vstr RLSGswitch"

seta RGswitch "weapon 7; set RGLGswitch vstr LGswitch"
seta LGswitch "weapon 6; set RGLGswitch vstr RGswitch"
seta RGLGswitch "vstr RGswitch"
bind e "vstr RGLGswitch"

seta GAswitch "weapon 1; set GAPMswitch vstr PMswitch"
seta PMswitch "weapon 12; set GAPMswitch vstr GAswitch"
seta GAPMswitch "vstr GAswitch"
bind r "vstr GAPMswitch"


// Chat Binds

bind HOME "say_team ^1BASE OVERRUN!!!"
bind PGDN "say_team Enemy IN/OUT ^1LOW"
bind PGUP "say_team Enemy IN/OUT ^1HIGH"
bind DEL "say_team ^5MEGA Up!"
bind INS "say_team ^5Medkit Up!"


// Chat settings

seta bot_nochat "1"
seta cg_chatbeep "1"
seta cg_teamChatTime "3000"
seta cg_teamChatHeight "0"
seta cg_teamChatBeep "1"
seta cg_teamChatsOnly "0"


// Name
// Colors - ^1=Red ^2=Green ^3=Yellow ^4=Blue ^5=Cyan ^6=Magenta ^7=White ^^8=Black

seta clan ""
seta name "^3YoS"


// Crosshair

seta cg_crosshairSize "35"
seta cg_crosshairPulse "1"
seta cg_crosshairHealth "0"
seta cg_crosshairColor "3"
seta cg_crosshairBrightness "1.0"
seta cg_crosshairX "0"
seta cg_crosshairY "0"
seta cg_drawCrosshairNames "1"
seta cg_drawCrosshair "3"


// Model Settings

seta cg_enemyHeadColor "0x000000FF"
seta cg_enemyUpperColor "0xFFFFFFFF"
seta cg_enemyLowerColor "0xFFFFFFFF"
seta cg_teamHeadColor "0x000000FF"
seta cg_teamUpperColor "0xFFFF00FF"
seta cg_teamLowerColor "0xFFFF00FF"
seta cg_forceRedTeamModel ""
seta cg_forceBlueTeamModel ""
seta cg_forceModel "0"
seta cg_forceTeamModel "Sarge"
seta cg_forceEnemyModel "keel/bright"
seta headmodel "Sarge/default"
seta model "Sarge/default"
seta team_headmodel "Sarge/default"
seta team_model "Sarge/default"
seta sex "male"


// Gun Options

seta cg_autoswitch "1"
seta cg_bob "0"
seta cg_brassTime "0"
seta cg_bubbleTrail "0"
seta cg_drawGun "1"
seta cg_drawAmmoWarning "1"
seta cg_lowAmmoWarningSound "0"
seta cg_lowAmmoWarningPercentile "0.20"
seta cg_lightningImpact "1"
seta cg_muzzleFlash "1"
seta cg_lightningStyle "2"
seta cg_rocketStyle "1"
seta cg_plasmaStyle "1"
seta cg_smokeRadius_NG "0"
seta cg_smokeRadius_RL "0"
seta cg_smokeRadius_GL "0"
seta cg_smoke_SG "0"
seta cg_switchToEmpty "1"
seta cg_switchOnEmpty "1"
seta cg_trueLightning "1"
seta cg_weaponBar "3"
seta cg_weaponColor "0xFFFFFFFF"
seta cg_weaponColorStyle "2"



// Rail Settings

seta color1 "3"
seta color2 "3"
seta cg_railStyle "1"
seta r_railcorewidth "6"
seta r_railwidth "5"
seta r_railsegmentlength "8"
seta cg_railTrailTime "500"
seta cg_predictLocalRailShots "1"


// Mouse related

seta cl_mouseAccel "0"
seta cl_mouseAccelStyle "0"
seta cl_mouseAccelOffset "0"
seta cl_mouseSensCap "0"
seta in_mouse "2"
seta m_filter "0"
seta sensitivity "5.80"  // 6.0


// General

seta cg_allowtaunt "0"
seta cg_HitBeep "2"
seta com_maxfps "125"
seta com_allowConsole "1"
seta scr_conspeed "3"
seta com_hunkMegs "128"
seta com_soundMegs "32"


// Net related

seta cg_lagometer "0"
seta cg_nopredict "0"
seta cg_predictItems "0"
seta cg_showmiss "0"
seta cg_smoothClients "0"
seta cl_maxpackets "90"
seta cl_maxPing "800"
seta cl_packetdup "0"
seta rate "20000"
seta snaps "30"


// Visuals

seta cg_fov "105"
seta cg_zoomfov "45"
seta cg_draw2D "1"
seta cg_draw3dIcons "1"
seta cg_drawIcons "1"
seta cg_drawFPS "0"
seta cg_drawStatus "1"
seta cg_drawSnapshot "0"
seta cg_drawRewards "1"
seta cg_drawAttacker "0"
seta cg_drawFriend "1"
seta cg_drawTeamOverlay "0"
seta cg_gunX "0"
seta cg_gunY "0"
seta cg_gunZ "0"
seta cg_kickScale "0"
seta cg_levelTimerDirection "1"
seta cg_marks "1"
seta cg_playerNames "1"
seta cg_scorePlums "1"
seta cg_selfOnTeamOverlay "0"
seta cg_shadows "1"
seta cg_simpleitems "0"
seta cg_stats "0"
seta com_blood "1"
seta cg_gibs "10"
seta ui_bigFont "0.4"
seta ui_smallFont "0.25"


// Graphics Settings

seta r_gl_vendor "NVIDIA Corporation"
seta r_gl_renderer "GeForce 7800 GTX/PCI/SSE2"
seta r_gl_reserved "1"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta r_mode "21"
seta r_contrast "1.05"
seta r_enablePostProcess "1"
seta r_fullbright "0"
seta r_gamma "1"
seta r_inBrowserMode "12"
seta r_inGameVideo "0"
seta r_lodbias "0"
seta r_mapOverBrightBits "3"
seta r_overBrightBits "1"
seta r_picmip "0"
seta r_subdivisions "80"
seta r_dynamiclight "1"
seta r_vertexlight "0"


// Sound

seta cg_buzzerSound "0"
seta s_ambient "0"
seta s_doppler "0"
seta s_volume "0.8"
seta s_musicvolume "0.25"


// Demo

seta cl_autoRecordDemo "0"
seta cl_demoRecordMessage "1"


// Misc(Stuff I won't touch and most of what I don't know)

seta handicap "100"
seta cg_autoAction ""
seta cg_cameraOrbitDelay "50"
seta cg_deferPlayers "1"
seta cg_playVoiceChats "1"
seta cg_respawnTimerX "10"
seta cg_respawnTimerY "100"
seta cg_showVoiceText "1"
seta teamtask "0"

Little by little I keep lowering my sensitivity to improve my rail aim.

[Faust]

im still as awful as i was 2 months ago. ctf requires i know the ctf maps (which i dont), and i just cant hang with the folks in tdm. ffa i can stink up the place and not affect anybody elses w/l ratio.

however, recently i have found a great way of amusing myself in-game... The Longest Yard, i make it my mission to be the guardian of the railgun (or more accurately, the guardian of the platform. people loooove to camp there). i make the jump to the platform and jump back and just wait for folks to try and jump out there. the part that i always get a hearty chuckle from is hitting them mid-jump so they overshoot the platform. or if i dont have a railgun ill just jump right behind them and hit em with the default pea shooter. same result . i dont get credit for the kill, but its soo worth it. of course this kinda makes me a marked man. after about the 3rd time of being knocked past the platform or sniped off the platform they make it their personal crusade to kill me at least once.

[YARDofSTUF]

For CTF, start out trying to defend your flag only, don't worry about getting the enemy flag.

If its a map with runes, grab Guard or Doubler.

And set team and enemy models, this way you can learn the sound of the model and know if you hear a teammate or an enemy. Keel and Tank Jr. are good enemy models, Sarge or Klesk are good for team models. Having the enemy model set is good for sounds in TDM too.

The commands:

cg_forceTeamModel Sarge
cg_forceEnemyModel keel

There are also config file generators, and really you should consider getting a custom config, its helped my game play out a lot.

Google "quakelive config generator" I would link it but the forums will edit the link because of the word sh*t. lol

[Faust]

cool, very much appreciated. i used that config generator to get a decent setup, and am just tinkering with the file manually now. hardest part is the mouse settings.

[YARDofSTUF]

cool, very much appreciated. i used that config generator to get a decent setup, and am just tinkering with the file manually now. hardest part is the mouse settings.

Also, not sure if you know, but in the QL forums after every update, the developer forum lists changed cvars and newly added ones, along with what they do.

[loop2kil]

Yep, there are days where I suck a little less than others but still pretty much suck. How do folks get so good??

as info for the CTF lovers, they now have ICTF under the instagib section.

[YARDofSTUF]

Yep, there are days where I suck a little less than others but still pretty much suck. How do folks get so good??

as info for the CTF lovers, they now have ICTF under the instagib section.

CTF is a good start, because the goal is not always to kill the other play, since you want to cap, you make try to run for it, and because you have a base, where most times there are more friendlies than enemies. No team damage helps too. So you can get more use to fighting at a somewhat easier pace. The other game types all come down to Rail/LG accuracy, and a bit of predicted rockets.

In the practice section theres guides to faster movement and better jumping as well.

If you like to watch games:

http://www.quake-live.tv/

These guys stream pro matches of duels, TDM, CA, and CTF, as well as hold a King of the Hill tournament on wednesdays, first part open for anyone, second part is pros. Good to watch as they talk about how the fights go and what the person should have done differently when they mess up.

On the site are also "First Frag" videos, these are great duel tutorials if you want to get into that.

You play CA a ton, at least when I see you on. I think thats a weird game type as it is now, and kind of a joke, but you really need good accuracy to hang in there.

[RPitch]

Be great to get some of folks back into these, we play Halo first one a lot. 3 just sits on shelf next to the 360 box lol...not same nowadays-No keyboard & mouse.

[DigitalJack]

I've never read the gaming section here on SG before and I tend not to post on any forum but here I am as I see some familiar names from QL in this thread. Yep this is my very first post on speedguide and yes been visiting here for 5 years LMAO nice to meet you all.
-Jack

[YARDofSTUF]

I've never read the gaming section here on SG before and I tend not to post on any forum but here I am as I see some familiar names from QL in this thread. Yep this is my very first post on speedguide and yes been visiting here for 5 years LMAO nice to meet you all.
-Jack

I compliment you on an excellent choice of a thread to put your first post inside.

[loop2kil]

errr. quake live is down.

[YARDofSTUF]

errr. quake live is down.

And now back up.

[loop2kil]

yeah, was playing some old freeze tag with the regular quake3 install...Then tried rocket arena...lightning gun is whack.

[DigitalJack]

Good to see you on QL this morning StoneCat here are the full specs of my new computer build/rebuild that I told you about.

Thermaltake Element G VL10001W2Z Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
ASUS P7P55 WS SuperComputer with NF200 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Model BX80605I7860
CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
2x CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
PLEXTOR 24X DVD/CD Writer Black SATA Model PX-880SA LightScribe Support
EVGA 01G-P3-1181-AR GeForce GTX 285 Superclocked Edition 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 SLI Supported Video Card

Had these on hand already
2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
SAMSUNG 2494SW Glossy Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor (got on black friday was a steal at $185)
PLANTRONICS GAMECOMPRO1 USB Circumaural Stereo Headset

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit for System Builders OEM

Other Stuff People normally don't really care about
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (FYI get the retail there are issues with the OEM models)
Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 (retail as well)
BELKIN WaveRest F8E244-BLK Black Gel Wrist Pad
XTRAC PADS Ripper Optical Mouse pad
RAZER RZ30-00070101-R2U1 Tarantula Blue Battlelight

My thinking is I'll add a 2nd eVGA 285 card later in the year when the price drops more.

This build is pretty much locked in right now I get the parts today via UPS I am ordering some additional ultra quiet fans the only thing I didn't actually order yet was the MS Win7 I am considering Ultimate vs Professional any thoughts on that?

Edit: Did more research on Win7 and upgrading between editions is very simple so just getting Win7 64bit professional now forgoing ultimate for the time being.

[YeOldeStonecat]

Nice rig!
Big time Asus fan here!
I'm a long time MS Ergonomic keyboard user for years and years....going back to the beige color days. Currently I have several of the 4000 v1 models..no problems.

[DigitalJack]

Nice rig!
Big time Asus fan here!
I'm a long time MS Ergonomic keyboard user for years and years....going back to the beige color days. Currently I have several of the 4000 v1 models..no problems.

Thanks!

Yeah my first brand spanking new build since October/04 so it was long overdue, did a rebuild in Aug/08 to get me by but couldn't take being behind the times any longer.

The issue with the OEM 4000s are either very stiff keys or wobbly keys no such problems with the retail, I have an OEM one for my secondary system which doesn't get much keyboard use.

[YARDofSTUF]

This tuesday Quakelive will be doing a major update. I think everyone is hoping that means more maps and private servers.

[loop2kil]

Let's also hope they add Freezetag and/or RA3...but yes more maps would be cool too.

[YARDofSTUF]

Let's also hope they add Freezetag and/or RA3...but yes more maps would be cool too.

Freezetag is a no go. Id software doesn't seem to want to deal with copyright issues and other things from map and gametype makers.

The creator of freezetag has given permission to Id a while ago, but they don't seem to want to add it.

Sadly I think CA is the closest we get to RA, which sucks cuz CA is about the worst gametype. lol

[loop2kil]

..... Cuz ca is about the worst gametype. Lol

blasphemy!!!!!

[YARDofSTUF]

blasphemy!!!!!

Haha.

But seriously I do think it is.

Starting at 200/200 with all weapons and a billion ammo for each takes out a lot of the skill in team death match where you time and control items and weapons, and have to care about how much ammo you waste.

The maps are ok, but the spawns suck. Ok were on a team so lets have teammates spawn somewhat close, or a longer lead in.

And for weapons I'd like to see the ammo count reduced and maybe even only offer certain weapons on each map.

[loop2kil]

Haha.

But seriously I do think it is.

Starting at 200/200 with all weapons and a billion ammo for each takes out a lot of the skill in team death match where you time and control items and weapons, and have to care about how much ammo you waste.

The maps are ok, but the spawns suck. Ok were on a team so lets have teammates spawn somewhat close, or a longer lead in.

And for weapons I'd like to see the ammo count reduced and maybe even only offer certain weapons on each map.

But that's what makes it fun to me...it makes the battles more about fighting skill rather than if you are lucky enough to spawn near a good weapon and the power ups. Everyone starts each battle evenly....It's all about how good your Gladiator skills are. I might agree with you on the spawns though, spawning teams together would be a great update to the mod. My biggest gripe with CA is that most regular/skilled CA players only like to play the same 3 effing maps over and over...they're like map lemmings.

[YARDofSTUF]

But that's what makes it fun to me...it makes the battles more about fighting skill rather than if you are lucky enough to spawn near a good weapon and the power ups. Everyone starts each battle evenly....It's all about how good your Gladiator skills are. I might agree with you on the spawns though, spawning teams together would be a great update to the mod. My biggest gripe with CA is that most regular/skilled CA players only like to play the same 3 effing maps over and over...they're like map lemmings.

But its not about your gladiator skills, its about who groups up better at the start of a match.

Duels test your gladiator skills. Two people start with nothing, usually one near red armor and 1 near mega, so you each head for one and then weapons and/or yellow armors and shards. Then you're both stocked up and can go after your opponent or bait him into an area as you wait from the red and mega to spawn again to try and keep the one you got at the start and steal the other. Rinse and repeat.

its one on one and most spawns are fair once you know where to go, so I consider that a better gladiator test. Tests your accuracy, prediction shots, map control, item timing, and movement.

[YeOldeStonecat]

The new update really nerfed the shotgun.

[YARDofSTUF]

The new update really nerfed the shotgun.

The new update made no change to the shotty. The accuracy change only affects your stats.

[YeOldeStonecat]

I read something about it now counting pellets that hit per blast, versus just hit or not.

Quite a few other players today were talking about it. For a few hours today of playing, I noticed that it seems to take twice as many shots to drop a player now.

[YARDofSTUF]

I read something about it now counting pellets that hit per blast, versus just hit or not.

Quite a few other players today were talking about it. For a few hours today of playing, I noticed that it seems to take twice as many shots to drop a player now.

Its all in your head. The pellet spread is the same and damage has been counted per pellet for ages.

What changed in this update was that the accuracy stat in player profiles is now based per pellet instead of per hit.

[Shinobi]

I just started playing Quake Live today

[YARDofSTUF]

I just started playing Quake Live today

Noob!

Welcome

[loop2kil]

I just started playing Quake Live today

What's your name so I can add you...need to get you hooked on CA before YOS poison's your mind against it

[YARDofSTUF]

What's your name so I can add you...need to get you hooked on CA before YOS poison's your mind against it

As a ninja Shinobi will enjoy CTF, as he could be hidden on the defense and strike with great speed and dexterity, all while being unseen.

[loop2kil]

As a ninja Shinobi will enjoy CTF, as he could be hidden on the defense and strike with great speed and dexterity, all while being unseen.

all your base are belong to us

[Shinobi]

As a ninja Shinobi will enjoy CTF, as he could be hidden on the defense and strike with great speed and dexterity, all while being unseen.

[Shinobi]

You'll find me playing as "GeeLo"

[YARDofSTUF]

You'll find me playing as "GeeLo"

Added you!

[Shinobi]

Added you!

I did see that, and accepted the add

[Shinobi]

I played great tonight