Do You Believe In God?

axtrader · Post by **axtrader** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:33 pm

Or to say it more precisely...

Do you believe in the existence, past or present, of a Divine Supreme Being or Power?

Hopefully the phrasing of the question will encourage responses from all who refer to the Supreme Being as God, Allah, Jehovah, Jah, Yahweh, Olorun, Olodumare, Ra, Krishna, Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma, etc.

Please cast your vote and feel free to add commentary. Just one thing. Let's keep this discussion civil and respect everyone's right to their opinion. Let's not allow what could be an intriguing and inspiring topic to degenerate into some sort of flame-throwing escapade.

TIA for your responses.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:37 pm

no comment

{edit} Just want everyone to know I'll stay out of this thread completely, so the rest of you can say what you will without any worries of me ruining the thread.[edit]

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:40 pm

http://forums.off-topic.net/showthread. ... did=386574

me = noetic....

I am unsure... I want to believe.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:41 pm

Nope, I'm not superticious. But if anybody wants to base there life on myth and folklore. More power to em

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:43 pm

Oh yeah, this thread is going 0 to train wreck within about 30min to an hour. Should be fun to watch.

axtrader · Post by **axtrader** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:44 pm

Thanks guys, but don't forget to cast your votes above. It helps to keep track of the numbers.

Thanks.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:46 pm

Yes, no doubt in my mind.

Being a paranormal research investigator,

whether or not you believe in God, you realize there is something higher going on that we cannot explain.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:48 pm

Originally posted by davy19
Being a paranormal research investigator,

Does a job like that pay? Also, give us some freaky stories plz.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:50 pm

Does a job like that pay? Also, give us some freaky stories plz

No I do it part-time as a volunteer, mostly on the weekends.

I have only just begun a few months ago, so I am still learning.

But I just got a night vision scope, and I can tell you it is really exciting to look through it, and actual witness paranormal activity like orbs.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:54 pm

Quoted by axtrader: Please cast your vote and feel free to add commentary. Just one thing. Let's keep this discussion civil and respect everyone's right to their opinion. Let's not allow what could be an intriguing and inspiring topic to degenerate into some sort of flame-throwing escapade

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith
Nope, I'm not superticious. But if anybody wants to base there life on myth and folklore. More power to em

Hmmmmm
yes silver, train wreck

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:56 pm

I beleave not in one central all powerfull reature but rather that the power that gave us all life resides within us and around us in nature.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:57 pm

No train wreck...no provocation...no nothing...

If it isn't civil...it goes...that simple.

I was here on the first religious thread on SG...it went several pages and several days......

BUT..everyone was civil..

It can be done with a little bit of thinking before you post. Really, it's that simple.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:05 pm

Intel is better than AMD.

I know how to uncap my modem, and have done so, with excellent results. :P

I'm kinda in DeM's boat. I'd like to think there is a greater being out there, but at times is so dang hard to conceive that thought. Ehh, I figure time and experience will help me figure it out.

black crowes · Post by **black crowes** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:07 pm

Oh! It's a close one right now. This almost reminds me of the 2000 presidential campaign waiting for all districts to report.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:07 pm

Originally posted by downhill
No train wreck...no provocation...no nothing...

If it isn't civil...it goes...that simple.

I was here on the first religious thread on SG...it went several pages and several days......

BUT..everyone was civil..

It can be done with a little bit of thinking before you post. Really, it's that simple.

SCREW YOU PAL! I BET YOU VOTED NO!

It might go a few pages, I still say train wreck. I have been wrong before though. Once.

torsten · Post by **torsten** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:11 pm

My answer is yes. Certainly within the scope of how axtrader defined it. But my yes does NOT indicate that I subscribe to any particular religion's dogma. It's more of a personal thing incorporting all I've learned about the concept of faith and existence. I try to keep an open mind to anything persuasive that others may have to offer. I don't think a wise person should close his/her mind to any possibility.

Hybridmonolith's comment doesn't bother me. I don't know why people have to be so sensitive about this. If someone thinks I'm stupid for believing what I do, I'll get over it, no big deal.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:13 pm

Originally posted by Silver

SCREW YOU PAL! I BET YOU VOTED NO!

It might go a few pages, I still say train wreck. I have been wrong before though. Once.

Hummm.......

I get called out a lot at night. Sometimes I travel to an area with out much light pollution. I can not look up and deny there isn't something. It's too grand. Ever see the Horsehead Nebula through a telescope?

How can one look at just our world and think that there isn't a grand scheme of things?

Einstein believed in God....when ask about relativity once...
His reply was...

"God does not play dice."

Nothing just happens.....That is my belief..

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:16 pm

Originally posted by torsten
Hybridmonolith's comment doesn't bother me. I don't know why people have to be so sensitive about this. If someone thinks I'm stupid for believing what I do, I'll get over it, no big deal.

Torsten right, That shouldn't of offended anyone, I just think that it's BS, IMO

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:16 pm

Originally posted by downhill

Hummm.......

I get called out a lot at night. Sometimes I travel to an area with out much light pollution. I can not look up and deny there isn't something. It's too grand. Ever see the Horsehead Nebula through a telescope?

How can one look at just our world and think that there isn't a grand scheme of things?

Einstein believed in God....when ask about relativity once...
His reply was...

"God does not play dice."

Nothing just happens.....That is my belief..

I figure you knew that I was joking.

Still a good reply though.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:20 pm

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith

Torsten right, That shouldn't of offended anyone, I just think that it's BS, IMO

Yeah, but no need to rub someones nose in it. Play nice eh, or I'll sic Ken on you. I've kept him in a tiger box and have been feeding him raw meat for the last few days, he's ready to damage something.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:22 pm

Originally posted by brembo

Yeah, but no need to rub someones nose in it. Play nice eh, or I'll sic Ken on you. I've kept him in a tiger box and have been feeding him raw meat for the last few days, he's ready to damage something.

YARRR AND KEN ON RAW MEAT, WELL.... SOMETIMES IT WILL GIVE HIM GAS AND THEN YOU KNOW HE CAN FART AT YOU AND SUCH, WITH SUCH FORCE THAT IT WILL BLOW ALL YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND MAKE YOUR EYES WATER LIKE YOU ARE CRYING.

Not too metion the burning of your skin.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:23 pm

Originally posted by Silver

What the hell is Taw meat? I have not heard of this.

Bite me. RAW IS WHAT I MEANT. Geez.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:25 pm

Originally posted by brembo

Yeah, but no need to rub someones nose in it. Play nice eh, or I'll sic Ken on you. I've kept him in a tiger box and have been feeding him taw meat for the last few days, he's ready to damage something.

Who's rubbing noses? I haven't said anything about others peoples opinions, I answered the question, Simple as that. Because its not a answer you or anybody else don't agree with. Just don't matter

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:25 pm

Originally posted by brembo

Bite me. RAW IS WHAT I MEANT. Geez.

Affirmative, it will be fixed.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:30 pm

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith

Who's rubbing noses? I haven't said anything about others peoples opinions, I answered the question, Simple as that. Because its not a answer you or anybody else don't agree with. Just don't matter

No, you said its "BS". That bit could and should be left out. Civil is the keyword here. Keep in mind that religion is VERY important to some folks, and comming out and saying its BS, is very hard for some to stomach. That in mind, what purpose does it serve to point out that you think its a complete waste of time? Other than stirring the pot, not much. A reply in the line of..."I do not subscribe to religion, I see no basis for its existence" would have been the same, without a swipe at the folks that do believe religion is important.

Ya gotta watch yerself in threads of this nature, they get sticky and lots of emotions flying about. Diplomacy really.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:32 pm

Originally posted by brembo

No, you said its "BS". That bit could and should be left out. Civil is the keyword here. Keep in mind that religion is VERY important to some folks, and comming out and saying its BS, is very hard for some to stomach. That in mind, what purpose does it serve to point out that you think its a complete waste of time? Other than stirring the pot, not much. A reply in the line of..."I do not subscribe to religion, I see no basis for its existence" would have been the same, without a swipe at the folks that do believe religion is important.

Ya gotta watch yerself in threads of this nature, they get sticky and lots of emotions flying about. Diplomacy really.

Thanks for saving me all the typing, brembo.

Key word...civil....

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:33 pm

I believe in belief...

I believe in love...and in evil.

We can not see them or put our hands on them but yet we believe in them.

I hope there is a god.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:34 pm

T-45 minutes to fully train wrecked thread. Lock and Load downhill, services will be needed soon.

It has begun

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:36 pm

Silver paid me off

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:41 pm

Originally posted by brembo
Keep in mind that religion is VERY important to some folks, and comming out and saying its BS, is very hard for some to stomach.

I'm sure thats true, But it was just opinion. The same thing can be said by both sides and i would not have to stomach somebodies opnion, People can believe what they want. In a discussion everybody states their opinions and thats fine, the fact that your opniions might hurt somebodies feelings, is not a factor. Far as i concerned this conversation is over, I answered the poll. Now it's others turn.. So on with the discusion.

SeedOfChaos · Post by **SeedOfChaos** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:52 pm

Nope. In chaos I trust...

Juggernaut · Post by **Juggernaut** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:12 pm

I do believe in God. I liked your post too Downhill....everything happens for a reason.

It is a lot harder to believe than it is not to believe. What harm is there in stretching your mind a bit? There is more to life than what we know. I don't necessarily believe you have to be of one particular religion, but try to live your life right and be good. Help out your fellow man and show tolerance for people. I don't think just going to church once a week and then acting like a jerk the rest of the week is a good thing....there is a lot of people that go to church and then don't practice what they "believe"...while there are other people that never go to church that do. IMO, just have faith and try to be good to eachother

chevyman282 · Post by **chevyman282** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:36 pm

Yes, I believe in God, I have 2 wonderful grandchildren, I see the world thru there eyes and am amazed at things that I once took for granted....A dandylion, that goes from a flower to a puff of seed, that children can see and touch.... A animal that can be loving and protective of the children, The magic of Christmas, when adults can even be civil to one another, and the children believe that anything is possiable, yes I believe in God, for I see miracles every day.....thru the childrens eyes....

chevyman282

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:52 pm

And for those of us who believe in multiple Gods and Godesses?

What do we check?

As to expounding, I do believe in multiples of them, and yet only as higher powers who live in more dimensions than we do. We are gods in our own rights to creatures that live in 2D (excluding time), who are gods to 1D creatures, and so on and so forth in both directions.

The mysticism/faith/belief that I hold is more in Nature, Gaia, and Magic(k) than anything else. It makes sense to me that the Earth Mother would care about her kids and let us live.. more than it makes sense that the "Almighty Father" would create us and let us be hurt over and over.

*shrugs* It's all a matter of perspective.

Arson_ist · Post by **Arson_ist** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:25 pm

I personally believe in no gods/afterlifes.

I have been told during discussions with older people that as a lot of younger people are Athiest and Older, Religious. But to me it seems that as you get older you have to hope there is more to death than eating dirt otherwise you fall into depression etc etc.

But uhh, no god, no afterlife, no large breasted angels. Dirt and worms...

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:45 pm

There is no such thing as god in my opinion. Earth was created by fluke. Not by some supreme being. If there is a supreme being why do we have hurricanes, and not perfect weather all year round, why does no one get sick, or no planes crash.. I'm sure someone who is religious is going to say something from the bible that says where god lets bad stuff happen.. But meh.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:43 pm

Originally posted by Mutch
There is no such thing as god in my opinion. Earth was created by fluke. Not by some supreme being. If there is a supreme being why do we have hurricanes, and not perfect weather all year round, why does no one get sick, or no planes crash.. I'm sure someone who is religious is going to say something from the bible that says where god lets bad stuff happen.. But meh.

Best way I can answer is that, how else would God bring us home?

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:55 pm

Originally posted by davy19
Best way I can answer is that, how else would God bring us home?

Sorry, I had to jump on this.

If "God" is so merciful (as you say), then why doesn't he just utter a word.. say, "home", and then the person he's calling goes *poof* on the streets. No pain, no suffering..

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:57 pm

Oh no, the downward spiral has started. Like a black hole, no sense or rationale can escape. "Lo, and I peer into the abyss."

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:00 pm

All I know is too much stuff happened to me in Viet Nam (and I came home alive) for there not to be a God. Besides… I promised soooooooooooooooooooo many times (my life) to God to get my sad ass out of there that “my ass belongs to God”.

However… I believe everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. What works for me doesn’t have to work for the other guy (or gal).

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