Spanking our Children

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:13 pm

Just saw a report on CNN about how this lady did a 5 year study on Spanking and found it does cause harm to a child phsycologically.

Are we going to get to the point where spanking our children is against the law? Where we can't be seen doing it in public? Or where if you do it you are considered a very bad bad person?

Again I am scared about our future, really scared....

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:15 pm

There have been many cases where someone has had their child taken away because of this.

Do I agree with the idea of spanking children? No. But in many cases, I don't think its EXTREMELY PSYCHOLOGICALLY DAMAGING either.

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:18 pm

it's SUPPOSED TO BE PSYCHOLOGICALLY DAMAGING! If it wasn't, it wouldn't be effective. If I do something wrong, and I get hit, you can be sure as hell that I won't do it again.. I've just been psychologically damaged in that I am now scared of doing what I just did for fear of being hit.

2 loud · Post by **2 loud** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:24 pm

I wonder how many of the "Pointy Headed Intellectuals" involved in this study actually have kids of their own! I have 3, and would beg to differ with the study.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:31 pm

Originally posted by 2 loud
I wonder how many of the "Pointy Headed Intellectuals" involved in this study actually have kids of their own! I have 3, and would beg to differ with the study.

Seems to me the people crying the loudest about how we should raise our children are those who have none and think they know better...

I remember being belted by my father for something I did and knowing that I'd never do it again for fear of the belt...that was the whole point of the excercise - discipline...

I've seen my father on both sides of the issue...when he was involved in raising myself, my sister, & my brother, he was fairly strict, and as a result, we were fairly normally behaved. Now, with his second wife and his two kids with her...well, let's just say she's one of these bleeding heart liberals who does not believe in corporal punishment, but instead sends her kids into a "Time Out" for something they did wrong...those kids of theirs walk all over them...spoiled to the core, mouthing off to everyone who'll listen...

No discipline = rude, spoiled children...

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:32 pm

i was spanked when i was a kid, look how i turned out

/ok maybe not the best example

seriously though I go with the saying "spare the rod, spoil the child"

it is a neccassary dicipline technique

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:33 pm

I would think it depends on the age of the child, and the severity of the "hitting".

Toddlers learn quick with a slight tap. But a teenager doesn't listen up till they're beat to an inch of thier lives. /jk of course, but you get what I mean?
Spanking defined (my understanding) = a slight tap on the hand, or butt.
Spanking should only be used on toddlers, and very lightly. They learn quick, and then grow to avoid the spankings by not doing what got them a spanking the first, and second time.

After about age 5 or 6, spanking is useless unless overdone (so IMHO don't bother), that's where real damage can be done.

Teenagers need a good swift kick in the a$$ at least once a week

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:38 pm

Originally posted by Indy
but instead sends her kids into a "Time Out" for something they did wrong...those kids of theirs walk all over them...spoiled to the core, mouthing off to everyone who'll listen...

No discipline = rude, spoiled children...

There's a difference between the type of dicipline used, and weak parenting. Parents who let their kids walk all over them are not doing so because they don't hit their kids. I was never "spanked" or anything, and I'm about as far from a rude or spoiled child as you can possibly be. It may be true in some cases, but just because someone doesn't beat the crap out of their kids for doing something they shouldn't have done doesn't mean that the kids are going be @$$holes.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:48 pm

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE

There's a difference between the type of dicipline used, and weak parenting. Parents who let their kids walk all over them are not doing so because they don't hit their kids. I was never "spanked" or anything, and I'm about as far from a rude or spoiled child as you can possibly be. It may be true in some cases, but just because someone doesn't beat the crap out of their kids for doing something they shouldn't have done doesn't mean that the kids are going be @$$holes.

Well, maybe I should have been a little clearer with my post...it wasn't really intended to sound like that you need to beat your kids in order to make them behave properly...just that a lack of discipline (of any sort) tends to spoil the child...some children you don't have to discipline nearly as much as others...some you have to beat the living snot out of to get thru to them that something they did was wrong...

I'm just coming from my experience where corporal punishment was used with my sister, brother and I, whereas it was not with my half-brother and half-sister, and the difference is truly night and day...

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:51 pm

Very true Jim, no need for excessive force when you have a brain 20 years or more older than the child you're dealing with. Problem is, some of those older brains never matured properly themselves.

There are many ways to dicipline a child without hitting them.

I think everyone here knows me well enough to know,

My kids don't walk all over me, and I don't ever hit them. They are very respectful kids (teenagers both).
That said, I realize everyone, including kids, get angry. They (and we) say and do things contrary to what they've been taught, but there is a line they don't ever cross.
There is also a line I never cross, and that's letting my anger control me to the point of using force.

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:52 pm

Spanking in public in Washington state is against the law and has been for some time. Which is fine. Beat your kids in private! j/k Just another tick of our society being slowly shoved down the toilet. Now we have the pledge against the law and soon spanking. Thank God I don't have all that much longer on this ridiculous planet. I am so sick of tree-huggers and special interest groups I could puke.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:07 am

Stupid little sissy kids nowadays. Let someone try and tell me something for spankin my kid in public or wherever I am. I'll bust their ass too.

A_COMMUNIST · Post by **A_COMMUNIST** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:13 am

have you ever heard the expression

"I'm going to beat you like a Red-Headed stepchild"

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:19 am

Originally posted by Prey521
Stupid little sissy kids nowadays. Let someone try and tell me something for spankin my kid in public or wherever I am. I'll bust their ass too.

And I repeat "Some of those older brains never fully matured themselves"

j/k

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:39 am

Well the fact of the matter is that while I don't nessecarily disagree with spanking(I got my ass beat all through out my childhood) It does no good in the long run. It stops the behavior at that point in time and for certain situations I believe it deters the same behavior in the future but for the most part you take your beatin and then try not to get caught next time

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:52 am

I still spank myself.

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:09 am

i think spanking your child is bad only when it is really bad. if you spank your child in the butt or slap his arm, yes it will sting but it will teach him to know better and not do whatever he did again.
but sometimes parents drags their children by the arms, slap them on the face. i hate watching parents do that in public

torsten · Post by **torsten** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:43 pm

I should know better than to read a thread like this. The title itself has demagogue alert written all over it. Spanking is used for the psychological benefit of the person doing the hitting. Period. They're usually frustrated, annoyed, or pissed and can't control their anger. Of course they'll almost never admit to this. They come up with all kinds of garbage to defend it. Lying and saying the society is going to hell because they can't get their way, blah blah blah. Apparently it's just too hard for some people to learn basic psychology and apply it to their children. That would take.... patience.... oooooh. Just too hard. But it's much more effective in the long run than hitting them.

Of course these same people who love to claim that you can't raise a family without beating your children are the same stupid fvcks who claim that kids are psychologically scarred for life if they're touched in any way sexually. There's no sense of reality or logic for them. They just want what they want. Talk about CHILDREN. Some people need too grow up.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:07 pm

I bet many older members here will think that's crap.. they prolly get beat when they're young too..

heck I get beat up alot by my mom and dad... I hate them.. I hate hate them.. but they taught me well.. turned me into a lunatic that obey the rules..

I say hitting is legal.. people are getting soft... I didn't whine when I get chased after with a wooden stick... I just cried..

I say give them kids what they deserve! they don't learn if they don't get hit...

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:10 pm

Immortal = Sadomasichist

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:12 pm

Originally posted by Norm
Immortal = Sadomasichist

don't swear at me! or I will kill u..

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:15 pm

Obviously, your parents didn't hit you hard enough

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:57 pm

Originally posted by Indy

Seems to me the people crying the loudest about how we should raise our children are those who have none and think they know better...

I remember being belted by my father for something I did and knowing that I'd never do it again for fear of the belt...that was the whole point of the excercise - discipline...

I've seen my father on both sides of the issue...when he was involved in raising myself, my sister, & my brother, he was fairly strict, and as a result, we were fairly normally behaved. Now, with his second wife and his two kids with her...well, let's just say she's one of these bleeding heart liberals who does not believe in corporal punishment, but instead sends her kids into a "Time Out" for something they did wrong...those kids of theirs walk all over them...spoiled to the core, mouthing off to everyone who'll listen...

No discipline = rude, spoiled children...

IMHO..."Time Out" does NOT work...

If I did something wrong, I got a swat, lord knows never did the same twice...I changed it up a bit

My sister puts my niece in time outs, and she can be one spoiled brat at times. Some times I think schools should still be able to able to spank kids...

I mean, look at past generations that were spanked and now those that were put in time out, it's a no brainer about the problems that's 'caused...