Having fun building new rig!

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:17 pm

Sitting here running XP setup on my new rig. AMD XP 1900+, MSI k7n420 Pro NForce motherboard.

Fun Fun Fun ! ! !

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:39 pm

Gonna be migrating the guts of my Dell over to my new Antec sx1030 case. Then I'm installing my new Audigy and Maxtor 60 gig drive.

:2cool:

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:49 pm

Enjoy that case Holmes......sweet isn't she? That's what this new system is going in!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:57 pm

just got my kr7a mobo and swiftech heastink fan to run with my 2 40 gig maxtors lite on burner and audigy come xmas

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:58 pm

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Enjoy that case Holmes......sweet isn't she? That's what this new system is going in!

same here

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:09 pm

I'm using the 840....the case is the same size, only 1 harddrive cage and the face is different.....sweet, it has a ton of room...

Macho, that audigy card is one fine audio card. I love mine.

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:24 pm

Downhill,

The SX 830/840 has one HD bay? That sucks, what if I want to use RAID

Ah cares

How much was that board, YeOld?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 8:38 pm

Originally posted by HalfLifer
Downhill,

The SX 830/840 has one HD bay? That sucks, what if I want to use RAID

Ah cares

How much was that board, YeOld?

u can order drive cages that fit 2-3 if u have teh space to pop it in.

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 8:57 pm

The sx840 rocks the docks.

That's what I built my mom's pc in. "Teh Diablo 2 box".

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:16 pm

Well, so far...so good. Rock stable and fast. All default, no tweaking, and she got just shy of 7600 in 3DMark 2001. I clocked her up a bit to 1.69GHz, did my IRQ shuffling in BIOS to get everything separated like I like instead of all on 9 like ACPI does out of the box, and I got 8033.

Man is this Dragon Orb 3 fan too loud though....LOL....if putting egg crate foam on the case siding doesn't help, gonna get a diff fan...this is one screaming whiner. Does a heck of a job cooling the CPU though....normally about 49 degrees, it only goes up to 50 right after running the benchmarks.

Time to install some games and other various stuff, and do some software tweaking in the inner workings of XP, then see how high the CPU will run.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:35 pm

Originally posted by HalfLifer
Downhill,

The SX 830/840 has one HD bay? That sucks, what if I want to use RAID

Ah cares

How much was that board, YeOld?

Ummm..ok so I said that wrong....it has a removable bay. Each one can hold 3 hard drives....so you can do a 0+1 if need be, or plain old stripping with 2 hard drives...

Also the case is made with the same features as it's bigger brother. You can order an extra removable harddrive bay and have 6 drives if you like.

intense · Post by **intense** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:56 pm

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Sitting here running XP setup on my new rig. AMD XP 1900+, MSI k7n420 Pro NForce motherboard.

Fun Fun Fun ! ! !

What made you pick the NFORCE board over the Via?

intense

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:21 am

Nice

How do you separate the IRQ's like that? And BTW,, in your sig, its not a Palomino

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Well, so far...so good. Rock stable and fast. All default, no tweaking, and she got just shy of 7600 in 3DMark 2001. I clocked her up a bit to 1.69GHz, did my IRQ shuffling in BIOS to get everything separated like I like instead of all on 9 like ACPI does out of the box, and I got 8033.

Man is this Dragon Orb 3 fan too loud though....LOL....if putting egg crate foam on the case siding doesn't help, gonna get a diff fan...this is one screaming whiner. Does a heck of a job cooling the CPU though....normally about 49 degrees, it only goes up to 50 right after running the benchmarks.

Time to install some games and other various stuff, and do some software tweaking in the inner workings of XP, then see how high the CPU will run.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:27 am

Originally posted by intense

What made you pick the NFORCE board over the Via?

intense

I've had a strong dislike for Via over my long years in the computer field. This going back to their motherboards for the early classic Pentiums. When AMD finally got their CPU's decent with the Athlons, I saw many friends who were experienced at building rigs have serious issues, while I enjoyed near guaranteed reliability with chipsets like the Intel BX. While Via has gotten their act together with the 266a chipset....it's too late for me, and one successfull product from a company doesn't win me as a customer.

nVidia won me a long time ago, their first TNT brought me onboard, I've stuck with them since on every graphics chip since then. For their first chipset, on it's initial release/version/production run, to score pretty darn close to the fastest chipset on the market, the 266a.....is quite impressive. Knowing nVidia feverishly releases new drivers with increased performance each time...I'll bet this chipset will be running dead on toe to toe with the 266a in a matter of months.

True, so far it hasn't proven to be as highly overclockable as the 266a, later BIOS may or may not improve this. But it's taken well to modest overclocking so far, and I run a Promise PCI RAID controller, which keeps me from running way overclocked anyways. I gladly take the gains from a RAID controller over the loss of another couple of 100 mHz from the CPU any day.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 9:26 am

How do you separate the IRQ's like that? And BTW,, in your sig, its not a Palomino

basically u just convert system from using ACPI to Standard PC.
Go to Device manager
go under computer
highlight ACPI computer and update driver
choose to install from list
choose not to search. i will choose driver
then tick the box to show all compatible hardware
choose standard pc
install it
restart computer

as windows restarts it will reinstall all ur hardware assigning seperate irqs.

Hope this is what u were wanting to know.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 9:45 am

Actually no, I don't change it from ACPI like described above. Remember, IRQ's are handled first at the hardware level, before the OS takes over...then the OS can take over and change things if it needs to. But if you square things away properly on the hardware BIOS level......life is good. I didn't not disable ACPI, and when I first built the machine, with all default settings, yes ACPI has everything and it's mother jammed together on IRQ 9. Without doing a single thing in Windows, I rebooted, went into BIOS, did my usual disabling of legacy things that I do not use anymore and that I have posted many times (COM1, COM2, LPT1), and that freed up most of my IRQ's....ACPI split everthing up fine, and 3DMark 2001 score got another boost! If I needed to change things anymore, I would have manually locked IRQ's on PCI slots to free things more.

IRQ's are still IRQ's are still IRQ's. With earlier Windows, the OS was less tolerant of IRQ sharing. Lately, hardware has gotten so varied with so many devices on rigs now, that IRQ sharing pretty much HAD to happen....I've seen 'puters fresh out of the box with no IRQ's free. So they had to come up with more tolerant methods of IRQ sharing. But....IRQ still means interrupt request, and it still works as a line of devices standing in line waiting for the CPU's attention. Like a long line at the movies, or the meat deli. The ticket sales girl or the butcher still doesn't like a whole bunch of people coming up at once when #9 comes up, things still work better single file, and my performance got a free boost when I got all my devices split up..vid card on it's own, RAID controller on it's own, NIC on it's own, sound shares one thing (integrated nForce sound)

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 9:55 am

ahh....IC...Unfortunately I have to settle for the way i did it b/c my bios has limited irq assingment features (only irq settings in my bios that i see are for the pci slots). I didnt check into it but i hope my new MSI k7T266 pro2 board i just ordered will have those goodies in it.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:03 am

The board I had before, I had to do some "manual assigning"...but the nForce board, all I did was disable COM1, COM2, and LPT1....since I don't use those legacy devices, most people don't anymore, so why let them hog resources, right?...I rebooted...and BAM...ACPI spread out all the IRQ's by itself to the newly freed up ones. Was a beautiful thing. Hopefully your new one will be as easy.

gertvanjoe · Post by **gertvanjoe** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:54 am

Can you please tell me how to do that under Win 2k Pro cause mine got acpi enabled too and I think I will get a performance gain { don't know how big } from setting it up as standard pc . At the moment all peripherals are running on irq 11

gertvanjoe · Post by **gertvanjoe** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:09 am

Don't bother . Got it figured by myself thanks

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 3:04 pm

Just follow what I mentioned above....as I stated, when I first booted up and ran all default settings in BIOS and in XP....everything and it's mother was on the same IRQ. I went into BIOS and disabled a few legacy things, and IRQ's freed up....the important resources adjusted by themselves to their own IRQ.

gertvanjoe · Post by **gertvanjoe** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:40 pm

Ok It solved my problem of splitting up irq with standard pc . But it greated a rather anoying problem . My computer doesn't shut down like it should with an atx psu . Its says "It is now safe to turn of your computer " and then I have to do the 4 second power button trick before it shuts down . So me now back on acpi . Gonna try the bios trck soos but I can't disble lpt one cause I do a lot of printing

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:27 pm

Rock, dude!!!!!!!

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:06 pm

Holy moly dude, bored much to dig this old one up? Brad Wesley's mullet sportin plain shirt wearing croney got you all tired out yet?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:22 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:just got my kr7a mobo and swiftech heastink fan to run with my 2 40 gig maxtors lite on burner and audigy come xmas

my abit kr7a-raid mobo is still running fine after all these years, and they said VIA was a POS

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