About Women!!!!!

JamieLee2k · Post by **JamieLee2k** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 8:51 pm

look at the next post down

princess · Post by **princess** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 9:50 pm

well coming from a womans point of view....

men do stuff all the time to piss us off. then when they ask it's like they ask but they really know the answer. either that or men are really stupid. plus you ask at the wrong time. give us a chance to cool down and then sit us down and say " hey babe, did i do something to bother you or upset you " and you'll get your answer. instead of saying "whats wrong with you", or "now what did i do", or something with an attitude. its all in the way you say it basically.

women arent so hard to understand. men just make it complicated. thats all.

btw why do you post stuff from your other site? why not just post it here? i dont get it. or post it both places.

JamieLee2k · Post by **JamieLee2k** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 9:55 pm

Women! You know the score lads - they must be one of the single most stressful things on this earth, next to family deaths or moving house.

They make it SO obvious when they are "upset" about somthing, by acting all "moody", but when you ask what's wrong, they say, NOTHING!!!

After hours of childish play, you kinda get an answer, when you say, "is it somthing i've done?", for the 100th time... you get, "well, if you don't know what you've done, then there is no point in me telling you!"

WHAT!! Using that logic, when i'm hungry, there is no point in me eating. When i'm tired, there is no point in me sleeping.

I'm proberbly not getting my point across here, but I hope you get the general idea.

I'd like to hear your experiences with that "female logic".

DVD Rewinder · Post by **DVD Rewinder** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 9:57 pm

Originally posted by JLR
"female logic".

I was gonna stay out of this thread until i came across that quote above...

sometimes i believe that is an oxymoron. in fact.. more times than not

sito · Post by **sito** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 10:19 pm

Fact of the matter is, is that we're quite different psychologicly. We produce different hormones and act in different ways for a purpose. Keep in mind that we are animals and we act the way we do through evolution (there I said it !

) , which means it has to have been a pretty successful method.

With that in mind it's pretty easy to understand why we don't always get along, but one advantage we have over other animals is that we can change the way we think. I find the only way to get along is to try and show as much understanding as you can towards the person you love. Sometimes things don't work, sometimes love isn't enough, simple as that. I figure ya gotta be happy with yourself in all aspects before you can be happy with a lover.

I think the depletion of general trust in this day and age has something to do with it. Money too! Things just don't seem all that simple anymore. My parents have been married for 35 years. Since they were 18.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:27 am

As much as I love women, I gotta admit that this is the most accurate representation of one:

OxBlooD · Post by **OxBlooD** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 4:49 am

Princess This might help you understand guys a little better

Rules That Guys Wished Women Knew

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us.
2. Learn to work the toilet seat; if it's up put it down.
3. Don't cut your hair. Ever.
4. Sometimes we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
5. Get rid of your cat.
6. Sunday = Sports.
7. Anything you wear is fine. Really.
8. Women wearing Wonder bras and low-cut blouses lose their right to
complain about having their breasts stared at.
9. You have too many shoes.
10. Crying is blackmail.
11. Ask for what you want. Subtle hints don't work.
12. Mark anniversaries on a calendar.
13. Yes, urinating standing up is more difficult than peeing from point
blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.
14. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers.
15. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
16. Don't fake it. We'd rather be ineffective than deceived.
17. Anything we said 6 or 8 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
18. If you don't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us
to act like soap opera guys.
19. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the
ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.
20. Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we know how
pretty you are?
21. Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
22. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it
done - not both.
23. Christopher Columbus didn't need directions, and neither do we.
24. You have enough clothes.
25. Nothing says "I love you" like sex.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 5:38 am

Originally posted by OxBlooD
Princess This might help you understand guys a little better

Rules That Guys Wished Women Knew

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us.
2. Learn to work the toilet seat; if it's up put it down.
3. Don't cut your hair. Ever.
4. Sometimes we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
5. Get rid of your cat.
6. Sunday = Sports.
7. Anything you wear is fine. Really.
8. Women wearing Wonder bras and low-cut blouses lose their right to
complain about having their breasts stared at.
9. You have too many shoes.
10. Crying is blackmail.
11. Ask for what you want. Subtle hints don't work.
12. Mark anniversaries on a calendar.
13. Yes, urinating standing up is more difficult than peeing from point
blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.
14. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers.
15. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
16. Don't fake it. We'd rather be ineffective than deceived.
17. Anything we said 6 or 8 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
18. If you don't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us
to act like soap opera guys.
19. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the
ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.
20. Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we know how
pretty you are?
21. Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
22. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it
done - not both.
23. Christopher Columbus didn't need directions, and neither do we.
24. You have enough clothes.
25. Nothing says "I love you" like sex.

Ahah. Thats perfect. I like the 1st one the best, its soooo annoying when girls keep asking "Do u think im fat"

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:11 am

I know that some of you have children out there, so this we be better understood by you then by people who dont have any children of thier own. When you wish to praise your son, you tell him 'good job'. Or you might tell him how 'tough' he is. Perhaps you'll make sure he knows how 'strong' he is growing up, how 'big' he is.

Let's now change it to what little girls go through. First of all, if a little boy is slighty overwieght; he's going to be a star football player. If a little girl is slightly overwieght, people consider her disgusting and will pull a bag of potato chips right out of her hand. When people wish to compliment a little girl, the ONLY thing they say is how pretty she is. VERY RARELY will then mention how smart, strong or tough she is.

So, if a girl asks you if she looks fat; dont blame her. If she worries about how she looks constantly, dont blame her. If your p*ckers were growing out of your chest, i'm sure you'd get sick of people staring too. If 'sunday=sports', then maybe 'dinner=make it yourself'. Sure, maybe you have trouble aiming; but the toliet paper is RIGHT THERE! We have to fake it, otherwise you'll be MISERABLE FOR WEEKS. A headache that lasts for 17 months is more then a one person problem, counseling for couples.

One last thing. Dont ogle. Treat us like we're the only thing in the whole universe that matters and we'll show you things you didnt even dream were possible.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:42 am

Originally posted by onetrueday

One last thing. Dont ogle. Treat us like we're the only thing in the whole universe that matters and we'll show you things you didnt even dream were possible.

I think I've found a new sig.

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:15 am

I would be honored!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:14 am

ppl always quote me from odd moments i guess i spam too much and stuff

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:59 am

Originally posted by John

I was visiting yahoo.

ooos i meant quoted in ppls sigs

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 11:49 am

Maybe it's just me, but every woman I have been with has not shown much abnormal difference from my own gender group.

That being said alot of women I have gone out with have been immature, selfish, untrustworthy, traitorous, unfaithful, dishonest, moody, egotistical, back talking, and that is just from 18 years old and back.

We are all human beings, only do differences occur when we act out our stereotypes.

BMED · Post by **BMED** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 11:58 am

Your age will reflect your knowledge of women. It will take many trial and errors for you to be able to trust your judgement, this will take some time......maybe even years, decades......or never!

nocturnal · Post by **nocturnal** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 12:51 pm

Originally posted by onetrueday
When people wish to compliment a little girl, the ONLY thing they say is how pretty she is. VERY RARELY will then mention how smart, strong or tough she is.

What "people" are you referring too? More then half the "people" in this world are WOMEN. Ergo, WOMEN are as guilty as men when it comes to establishing the values of little girls. I hear WOMEN complimenting little girls on their appearence twice (I'm being conservative) as much as I hear men do it. If women want to change the yardstick by which society measures them then they should start themselves by demonstrating it in thier behaviour.

Originally posted by onetrueday
If your p*ckers were growing out of your chest, i'm sure you'd get sick of people staring too.

Oh please...if I was a woman and I was tired of men staring at my breasts I'd simply wear looser fitting tops.

Look, you drive a Rolls Royce down a ghetto steet in the Bronx and you'd expect to get some unwanted attention wouldn't you?
In this case your sporting the fact that you're rich to the poor. Not a good idea.

Same with how you dress in public, you want to express and/or celebrate your sexuality by dressing a certain way, yet you don't want men to stare or oogle. Get real.

Originally posted by onetrueday
If 'sunday=sports', then maybe 'dinner=make it yourself'.

HA....that's easy....1-800-Dominos...done.

jdblitz · Post by **jdblitz** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:49 pm

If 'sunday=sports', then maybe 'dinner=make it yourself'.

heh, I do ALL the cooking, ALL the yardwork, maintain both vehicles, pay ALL the bills, and do 95% of ALL the cleaning. I am also the only one who takes care of the dog. I dont ogle other women, perhaps a pic or two in the babe thread, but none in real life and CERTAINLY not in front of her. Personally I think I do a damn good job and these rules STILL apply for the most part. I rely on NO-ONE but myself for everything except for emotional support and caring. I provide a lot, take care of most and require nothing in return except some respect. Is that too much to ask?

*EDIT* I DO, however, agree with you about how girls are brought up. I swear if I have girls they will grow up completely as supported as any boy in any endeavor they wish. They will know they have more to offer than a slender waist and bulging breasts. If they turn out looking like their mother(my fiance) then more power to them, hehehe.

JD

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:51 pm

Seems like there's a whole bunch of generalization going on here.

All a couple needs to get along fine is common sense and respect for the other person, simple as that. All the rest is just dumb sh*t ego and selfishness.

boobless · Post by **boobless** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:10 pm

women...you can't live with them yet they're everywhere

Gaming-Module · Post by **Gaming-Module** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:15 pm

Women aren't messed up, people are messed up.

End. Of. Discussion.

princess · Post by **princess** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:26 pm

Originally posted by onetrueday
I know that some of you have children out there, so this we be better understood by you then by people who dont have any children of thier own. When you wish to praise your son, you tell him 'good job'. Or you might tell him how 'tough' he is. Perhaps you'll make sure he knows how 'strong' he is growing up, how 'big' he is.

Let's now change it to what little girls go through. First of all, if a little boy is slighty overwieght; he's going to be a star football player. If a little girl is slightly overwieght, people consider her disgusting and will pull a bag of potato chips right out of her hand. When people wish to compliment a little girl, the ONLY thing they say is how pretty she is. VERY RARELY will then mention how smart, strong or tough she is.

So, if a girl asks you if she looks fat; dont blame her. If she worries about how she looks constantly, dont blame her. If your p*ckers were growing out of your chest, i'm sure you'd get sick of people staring too. If 'sunday=sports', then maybe 'dinner=make it yourself'. Sure, maybe you have trouble aiming; but the toliet paper is RIGHT THERE! We have to fake it, otherwise you'll be MISERABLE FOR WEEKS. A headache that lasts for 17 months is more then a one person problem, counseling for couples.

One last thing. Dont ogle. Treat us like we're the only thing in the whole universe that matters and we'll show you things you didnt even dream were possible.

well said. i agree with you 100%.

matia · Post by **matia** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:48 pm

I like Chicken.

Juggernaut · Post by **Juggernaut** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 4:37 pm

Since we're talking about stereotypes and generalization here, I thought I'd bring up this one about how everyone says that men are dogs and cheat. Well what about the woman?

I'm not saying that some men don't cheat, but NOT all men do. And it would be very safe to say that it is atleast equal to that of women.

I can't stand people that cheat on others...men or women. If you feel the need, break up with the person then but don't cheat on them behind their backs. I would much rather be broken up with than be cheated on. And I'm sure many of you would agree.

matia · Post by **matia** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 7:10 pm

Chicken is very good.

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 8:35 pm

I wasnt talking about cheating personally, because I think that's something that goes both ways. I could never even imagine cheating. I do know though that cheating has very little to do with sex.

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 8:36 pm

Since we're talking about stereotypes and generalization here, I

When I say that little girls are treated like objects of beauty, I think I speak for at LEAST 95% of the population.

fanta · Post by **fanta** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:09 pm

I think men and women need to realize that they are both different types of creatures that will never understand each other.

Theres no point in trying to "figure out men" or "figure out women"

The best you can do is try to understand the way they work.

Good luck...

lol

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:28 pm

Damn it! I go and get a 12 foot pole, thinkin I'll touch just about anything with that monster, and this thread pops up. Sunafabitc....gonna go get a 15 footer.

cstumph · Post by **cstumph** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:02 pm

Ctrl c =cut
Ctrl v =paste

JamieLee2k · Post by **JamieLee2k** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:09 pm

Just an observation, but this topic seems to be attracting some rational attention from the women.

I must conclude that what is being discussed here is touching a nerve with the females, and so, they are playing that game where they make us feel we are being silly boys.

Now, if this topic had no truth to it, the women would just roll their eyes and tut, and ignore us. But they are not.

You see girlies, what we say is true - but it is all in good faith, we love you all still.

Lads, keep up the good work, and may we all learn together how to combat the female logic.

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:31 pm

I'm really enjoying this thread actually!

JamieLee2k · Post by **JamieLee2k** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:35 pm

yeah I like it to but I can see Mouse closing this thread

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:37 pm

That would be wierd. I mean, if I called you(or all men) a stupid loser, or a wiener; then I would understand. I think I'm actually learning something though!

SannieRose · Post by **SannieRose** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 11:10 pm

Originally posted by JLR
yeah I like it to but I can see Mouse closing this thread

Yea, she closes everything.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 11:15 pm

Originally posted by SannieRose

Yea, she closes everything.

That's not true or you would not have posted that...

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Fri Aug 03, 2001 12:12 am

Haha, now that you've INSULTED mouse, this might just get closed.

BMED · Post by **BMED** » Fri Aug 03, 2001 12:26 am

I would hope that mouse or any other MOD closes any thread that contains insults directed towards other members.

Seems like a FAD lately, insults that is!

littletechgirl · Post by **littletechgirl** » Fri Aug 03, 2001 2:43 am

I think there have been many good points in this thread - from both sides.

Regarding those rules. I agree - with most of them.

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us.
2. Learn to work the toilet seat; if it's up put it down.
3. Don't cut your hair. Ever.
4. Sometimes we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
5. Get rid of your cat.
6. Sunday = Sports.
7. Anything you wear is fine. Really.
8. Women wearing Wonder bras and low-cut blouses lose their right to
complain about having their breasts stared at.
9. You have too many shoes.
10. Crying is blackmail.
11. Ask for what you want. Subtle hints don't work.
12. Mark anniversaries on a calendar.
13. Yes, urinating standing up is more difficult than peeing from point
blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.
14. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers.
15. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
16. Don't fake it. We'd rather be ineffective than deceived.
17. Anything we said 6 or 8 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
18. If you don't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us
to act like soap opera guys.
19. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the
ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.
20. Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we know how
pretty you are?
21. Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
22. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it
done - not both.
23. Christopher Columbus didn't need directions, and neither do we.
24. You have enough clothes.
25. Nothing says "I love you" like sex.

1. Sex is not the BEST way to say I love you, although it is very nice.
2. I am not a woman that buys a lot of clothes, but I agree - about the shoes too.
3. If she keeps asking if you think she's fat - maybe she has self-esteem problems or maybe she thinks she is getting fat and that is why tou are not touching her as much - or maybe other guys have stopped looking at her.

ANd the rest was said PERFECTLY by Onetrueday

Sure, maybe you have trouble aiming; but the toliet paper is RIGHT THERE!

I believe that men do a better job at keeping their emotions separate from everything. They like to keep it simple.

Women don't seem to do as well with this, and their emotions affect their actions and words. I read something about men approaching women at the wrong times regarding what is wrong....what about the women who are to upset and probably shouldn't open their mouth until they have calmed down. Usually they don't and everything gets all kinds of complicated.

We say so much that we regret when we are upset. And if your man is asking if he did something wrong...then you have a good man - because if he is concerned enough that he thinks his behavior is bothering you in some way... count yourself lucky that he noticed and made some type of an inquiry. Maybe he wants to change.

Men and women ARE very different.

Opposites attract!

The truth of it all is that there are men and women of all types.

You have to learn things about women. For instance I love flowers and candy.

When my man brings me home a candy bar it makes me smile.
Mostly because I know that he was thinking about me at some point and he thought I might like it. I like being considered and thought of. Not all women like the same things. Which is what I was getting at earlier. You need to find those little things that make them smile.

I personally love the little hints. One time my man got me a candy bar on his way home from work (he hates chocolate). As the evening went on .... I came back to eat my candy and it was gone! I thought he didn't eat it. But sure enough I had done something to upset him and hdecided to take it back. I knew I had done something because he really doesn't like candy.

Men can be just as strange as women.

If we really did get along well would you really know it. If you never know any of the bad stuff how do you appreciate the good stuff?

Just a thought.

Teirney · Post by **Teirney** » Fri Aug 03, 2001 3:02 am

Originally posted by Humboldt
Seems like there's a whole bunch of generalization going on here.

All a couple needs to get along fine is common sense and respect for the other person, simple as that. All the rest is just dumb sh*t ego and selfishness.

A wise man. Sometimes I think each side, men and women blame the other and us an excuse like that`s what women do, or why do men do that?
Seeing threads like that rimind me (as if I need it) that I have been blessed by my relationship with Chris. We love each other for our resect for the differences, and take the time to see that it compares to their own feelings.
A good example is when I`m a little cranky, it compares to his impatience over something he is doing. Just a diffence in expressing our emotions. He is my best friend, would you critisize your friends the way you do your spouses or girlfriends? We talk out our problems, never telling the other what to do..Everyone has the own unique opinions. Wouldn`t the world be boring if everyone thought the same.

My opinion.

matia · Post by **matia** » Fri Aug 03, 2001 10:27 am

What came first the chicken or the egg.