Has anyone used the free win 10 update?

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:34 am

Thinking about moving to 10 from 7. My 7 is a little bogged down after the years. My question, is has anyone seen a good benefit by going to 10. I am a huge 7 fan, scared of 8 and heard good things about 10. What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance...

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:31 am

It's pretty good....like it better than 8....but traditionally being old school I do still love Win7.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:50 am

I have a win 7 DT and LT that have been registered for the free install,but neither one has notified me that it is ready for download.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:10 am

I would read the EULA carefully before installing the "free" version...

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:28 am

Ken wrote:I would read the EULA carefully before installing the "free" version...

ya from what i have read there is a bunch of tracking\privacy issues with it.

i even uninstalled the windows 10 upgrade deals from my windows 7 PC, might try it at a later time though.

Post by **Philip** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:44 am

I just installed it yesterday on my laptop (upgraded from 8.1) to test some settings with the TCP Optimizer... It's not bad, better Start menu (I had to use "Classic Start Menu" with Windows 8.1, the metro interface was driving me up the wall). Haven't played much with it yet, the new browser seems faster than IE though. I chose "No" to all the tracking, not logging in to it with MS account at all.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:17 pm

Ya, don't log in with a MS account and go to privacy settings and turn off all the tracking ****.

I like Windows 10, would be better if I could edit the Start Menu a bit more, but its fine as is.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:25 pm

^ http://www.classicshell.net/

Post by **Philip** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:41 pm

RaisinCain wrote:^ http://www.classicshell.net/

That's what I used with Windows 8/8.1, not using it for now with Windows 10 as the default seems to work fine (just had to move a few tiles around)

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:43 am

the way 10 sounds makes me want to just stay with 7 for now,I have a LT & a DT that have it and run just fine.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:50 am

I went here, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software ... /windows10 and just did the "Upgrade this PC Now" option. I did all 4 PC's here at home that way. I gave up on the get Windows 10 Application. It seemed to just stall at Verifying your PC. I won't be going back to Windows 8.1 any time soon, or Windows 7. For the most part, I like 10. I like the Windows 8.1 Start Screen/All Apps Screen better than the 10 Start Screen/Start Menu, but I can live with it.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:53 am

Thanks everyone.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:37 am

Mark wrote:ya from what i have read there is a bunch of tracking\privacy issues with it.

i even uninstalled the windows 10 upgrade deals from my windows 7 PC, might try it at a later time though.

If you do the "custom" install...you get a chance to disable those during the install/setup process.
If you did the express install (which they are enabled by default)...easy enough to find the guides on the couple of things to turn off after it's setup.

As for the privacy concerns..much of them center around your typing and vocal commands being stored and accessed by Microsoft. But if you look at actually what it is..and what it's used for...(Cortana)....it's really the same thing happening that people such as iPhone users praise and brag about with Siri! And recently...Android users with Google Now. Same thing! Collects and analyses your data to give you a better, more accurate and personalized experience. I guess I crack up that the media got people to overhype and complain about Microsoft doing it..yes they love how phones do the same_thing!

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:15 pm

Yo, Ye Old Suck Pump

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:50 pm

Just FYI:

I upgraded my dual core Windows 7 laptop, Windows 7 quad core tower, and a Dell Windows 8 tablet to Windows 10. Not bad so far.

I had one desktop (tower) that was a dual core, with an Old Nvidia video card in it, that Nvida wont make a driver update for.

Some older video cards, may work.. when Windows 10 automatically uses Microsoft's generic video driver, but note.. there is "no" 3d accelerated graphics functionality at all.

Other older video cards with run in an older DirectX mode, but with at least have 3d accelerated graphics in Windows 10.

Post by **Philip** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:06 am

I use all flavors... I have my desktop and HTPC still on Windows 7, my kids' PCs and laptops are on Windows 8.1, my laptop (w.touchscreen I rarely touch) is now on Windows 10. I still don't like the move away from desktop enhanced graphics with Windows 7 to a stripped down phone(y) look of the newer Windows variants.. I miss my Aero interface, and I don't like your tiled/search content, or the whole dumbification of the interface, dangit! Oh well.

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:37 pm

My Windows XP laptop (circa 2006) is still running great. SSD, maxed out RAM, this old centrino is rockin'! Why replace it!? Just gotta keep the duct tape secured to keep the display from plopping over as well as the electrical tape on the end of the power adapter so it stays plugged in. Only issue is sometimes flash player videos aren't smooth if I have a lot of browser tabs open. I can live with that though. Nevermind that my daughter's hand-me down iPhone 4s is faster and more powerful. lol

My main desktop however is still Windows 7. SSD's, Core2 1.86GHz with 3.5GB RAM Runs all my old school PC games like the wind!

I haven't made any kind of computer purchase in probably 6 or 7 years now but still have 3 working desktops, 2 laptops and a PowerEdge T110 that just needs new hard drives. Only recent additions have been iPhones, iPads, and an Android tablet that came free with my last iPhone 6+ purchase. lol

I'm actually considering dumping the desktops and making my PowerEdge T110 my main workstation since its just been sitting collecting dust for over a year now. *sigh

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:15 am

I'm wondering if it's worth it to upgrade from Win7.

Skipped 8, everything I experienced using it and read about it made me hate it and want to smack the sh*t out of whoever designed/approved it.

Win7 I love.
Am getting the free upgrade offers as well and reading reviews.
Don't want what Philip doesn't like either...the *phone* look, which I'm guessing also encompasses navigation.
If I want to use my tablet, I'll use its interface. My desktop, I want to use what works and what I'm used to.
Not dumb ass gimmicks and swipes that cater to the current smartphone generation that revolves around fkbook and twatter.

Are there any stability/speed/ease of use reasons to make the upgrade?

Thanks

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:04 am

If you don't like Windows 8 your likely not going to like Windows 10. it's just more of the same. Do you have a second PC to run the Insider Preview on? Then you could try it out without messing up your main system.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:56 pm

The Dude wrote:If you don't like Windows 8 your likely not going to like Windows 10. it's just more of the same. Do you have a second PC to run the Insider Preview on? Then you could try it out without messing up your main system.

Not that's running Win7, XP on my folding rig.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:24 pm

VM, Virtual machine then?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:49 am

Humboldt wrote:Are there any stability/speed/ease of use reasons to make the upgrade?

Better memory management, multi desktop stuff is much simplier/better with Task View, Direct X 12 will be nice but thats gonna be gaming related, I doubt F@H will find a use for it.

Look around at screen shots, I skipped 8 mostly for its visuals, I'm really happy with 10. There are some visual differences but its pretty good. If you want to hold off, wait till the year is almost up then grab the upgrade.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 am

I'm still holding back. Eventually (maybe after Christmas) I'll make the move but for now I don't see any compelling reason to leave 7.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:51 am

Easto wrote:I'm still holding back. Eventually (maybe after Christmas) I'll make the move but for now I don't see any compelling reason to leave 7.

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Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:44 am

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:02 am

so what's the latest opinion on upgrading to 10 ? I have 7 running on my LT now.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:41 pm

I did it early on and haven't looked back. Once you upgrade and get your digital entitlement, you can clean install after that. If you have issues from the upgrade, just try a clean install. You also have a rollback feature that can be used up to 30 days after you do the upgrade. You can also just go back to Windows 7 if you don't like what you see. Assuming you have install media for Windows 7 and or made a system image backup etc.

Post by **Philip** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:02 pm

I still use Windows 7 on my main rig, only use 10 on the laptop and kids' desktops. I personally prefer the interface/graphics on Windows 7 for a PC, but Windows 10 for a laptop/touchscreen devices.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:33 pm

Philip wrote:I still use Windows 7 on my main rig, only use 10 on the laptop and kids' desktops. I personally prefer the interface/graphics on Windows 7 for a PC, but Windows 10 for a laptop/touchscreen devices.

you mean you like 10 for a LT that's not touch screen too ?

The Dude wrote:I did it early on and haven't looked back. Once you upgrade and get your digital entitlement, you can clean install after that. If you have issues from the upgrade, just try a clean install. You also have a rollback feature that can be used up to 30 days after you do the upgrade. You can also just go back to Windows 7 if you don't like what you see. Assuming you have install media for Windows 7 and or made a system image backup etc.

thanks for the reply

I appreciate it.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:59 am

I dig it.
Boots up quicker, runs better. I upgraded my main desktop at work...went from Win7 which it came with, to Win8 a year or two ago, to Win10 earlier this fall. Running her on 16 gigs of RAM with an i5 and a Raptor hard drive.
My laptop...went from Win7 to Win10. 8 gigs, i5, Crucial SSD. Upgraded smoothly.

You can turn off "Tablet Mode" to get Win10's version of the Start...Program menu...which is much better than what Win8 attempted to do to get the classic menu back.

I didn't really like 8...but I dig 10. Worth the time to upgrade.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:01 am

If you have more than one monitor connected, like I do, tablet mode is turned off automatically, and disabled. I actually want to give it a try but can't. Not without switching the video mode to PC only.

Post by **Philip** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:21 am

Dan yes, I like it for a non-touchscreen laptop as well. It seems better optimized visually for smaller screens and I think it is a bit less CPU-intensive when set correctly. I like the "Battery use" information that shows what apps drain the battery, whether they are allowed to run in the background, and other little things like that.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:19 am

Upgrade or buy my own disc? I'm planning on a new build before I move to Win 10 and not sure how to go about it.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:28 am

If you have a currently not in use Windows 7 or 8 product key you can clean install with that. You don't even have to upgrade first. The latest consumer build will install and activate with Window 7 and 8/8.1 keys. You can get the install media here, https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/home

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:24 am

what about this "ad" crap you guys were talking about ? (on the free upgrade)

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:40 am

I don't think there is any difference between the free upgrade and a bought and paid for install. I did the free upgrade to get digital entitlements on all my Pc's. Now I just do clean installs when needed. I've used my MSDN ISO's and ISO's from the Media a Creation tool and see no difference. There are Adds in some apps, the free ones usually. You'll get those anyway free upgrade or not. Other than adds in the Apps I see no adds. There were some in the early versions of Windows 8 I believe when you did a search. Bing was tied into the desktop search and showed results for stuff online. Adds crept in sometimes. I haven't seen any of that type of stuff in a long time.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:38 pm

Dan wrote:what about this "ad" crap you guys were talking about ? (on the free upgrade)

So far it's pretty quiet. There was a KB released via updates...which beefed up the Win10 "nags" on 7 and 8 systems..and that raised a lot of noise in that it could be abused to push stuff. Have Bing and other things get more "naggy" than they are. But so far..pretty quiet. No "ads" really coming up for me.

Post by **Philip** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:48 pm

There is much less tracking in it than many Android apps imho... And you still have a choice not to use a MS account, to pick your privacy settings, and what to share with Microsoft.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:44 pm

Has anyone actually read these yet?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/

Just curious...

They did change some of it in July...

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:02 pm

Ken wrote:Has anyone actually read these yet?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/

Just curious...

They did change some of it in July...

LOL I have never read a single one EVER !!