Where the hell is that plane?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:13 am

Hijacked? Landed, crashed?

Anyone who asks, "what plane?" can exit the conversation on their own.

How the hell can a large plane disappear in the current state of technology?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:01 am

Humboldt wrote:Hijacked? Landed, crashed?

Anyone who asks, "what plane?" can exit the conversation on their own.

How the hell can a large plane disappear in the current state of technology?

I know,it's mind boggling.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:20 am

If the pilots wanted to reroute it, it'd show up somewhere, somehow.

If it landed, locals would have mentioned it, regardless of where it was.

If it crashed, there'd be signs of the wreckage.

A friend of mine is about to fly to Mongolia, hates flying, and said today, "yeah, I'm looking into scripts"

I hope they find it, everyone alive and well, and if not that so the families can have some closure.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:02 am

another Bermuda triangle ?

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:05 am

first brembo now the plane!

if you find deernutz then u find pasengers

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:25 am

At this point I think its a safe assumption it crashed and the debris has sunk.

minir · Post by **minir** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:26 am

Hi Humboldt

Sounds to me that someone from within had a plan than simply went horribly wrong. God knows where it is now and as you say its amazing someone somewhere has not spotted it. The oceans are pretty big though and they may never hear of it again.

Sad if all where lost due to some deranged people.

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Larry

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:50 am

minir wrote:Hi Humboldt

Sounds to me that someone from within had a plan than simply went horribly wrong. God knows where it is now and as you say its amazing someone somewhere has not spotted it. The oceans are pretty big though and they may never hear of it again.

Sad if all where lost due to some deranged people.

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Larry

That's my hunch...something like a hijacking gone wrong. Radio tracking equipment intentionally disabled before takeoff...and then it disappeared.

Air Traffic Control and monitoring over in that part of the world isn't what we have over here...it's quite more desolate....easy to keep off the radar. I'll put my money on...attempted hijacking, passengers tried to intervene...but she was lost, went down.

...or hijacked..successful...landed somewhere....a few months later ransom requests for family.

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:04 am

Black hole!

Don Lemon on CNN....

[video=youtube;LV6A4QiAkVw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV6A4QiAkVw[/video]

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:09 am

cybotron r_9 wrote:Black hole!

Don Lemon on CNN....

[video=youtube;LV6A4QiAkVw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV6A4QiAkVw[/video]

LOL @ twittidiots

#derpderp

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:18 am

My suspicion is they're going to need a submarine to find that plane.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:51 am

Ask Courtney Love.

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:23 am

Bouncer wrote:My suspicion is they're going to need a submarine to find that plane.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

And a very large metal detector.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:20 am

You have to keep in mind the type or RADAR used in civilian aviation. There is Primary Radar and Secondary Radar, its not a main and backup thing. Primary radar actually bounces a signal off of an object and looks for the return signal. Like what was used in WWII. The only way to hide from that is with stealth or fly under it. Secondary radar (SSR) sends a digital signal to the planes transponder, the transponder then replies with its own digital signal with the flight info in it. No transponder, means no reply, which means no target on the radar scope. A lot of the civilian radar used by ATC is Secondary only. It has a bigger range than primary and is cheaper to run by itself. Primary radar basically only shows a blip for a target. There will be no altitude, flight number, info as that's sent by the transponder. Primary radar only shows very basic info. An Airport radar will likely have Primary and Secondary but the radar used to track on route aircraft won't. The military will have primary radar up the ying yang. If an aircraft shuts off its transponder its invisible to Secondary radar. The transponder is also used by TCAS, transponder collision avoidance system. With the transponder on the plan will show up on any other plans TCAS screen that is close. With it off its doesn't. The pane that shuts off their transponder will lose their TCAS so it can be a risky thing to do in a high traffic area.

The triple 7 is a fly by wire so a electrical failure would be a bad thing. If they had a fire in their avionics bay that might explain what happened. Systems would fail including communications. With no flight controls the plane would be at the mercy of the wind etc. Similar to what happened to Swiss Air. With no debris field though its looks more like a hijack or something similar.

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:11 pm

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:24 am

cybotron r_9 wrote:

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James Addisson · Post by **James Addisson** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:31 am

In my view the plane has crashed in some deserted area if it was hijacked then the hijackers would have demanded money by now.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:51 am

I'm thinking it was an equipment failure/electronics failure. It's fly by wire so no power no control. No power means no radios etc too.

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:05 pm

Dan wrote:LMAO !!! love that one !!

actually we have planned to stop by here http://www.gilligansisle.com/tour.html in March 2015 when we go to Kauai.

I have a whole year to save up for that one... save me a seat will ya!