Good or bad ping times?

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:59 pm

Hi! could anyone please tell me if this is good ping times :/ Because ive just got rid of my broadbandphone so i got no high interleave rate anymore.

DefaultReceiveWindow = leave blank
DefaultSendWindow = 131072
DisableAddressSharing = 1
InitialLargeBufferCount = 200
InitialMediumBufferCount = 480
InitialSmallBufferCount = 640
LargeBufferSize = 819200
MaxFastTransmit = 64000
MediumBufferSize = 150400
Priority Boost = 0
SmallBufferSize = 12800
TransmitWorker = 32
FastSendDatagramThreshhold = 4096
EnableFastRouteLookup = 1
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 1
IgnorePushBitsOnReceives = 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 256960
MaxFreeTcbs = 8000
MaxHashTableSize = 32768

MaxNormLookupMemory = 5000000
SackOpts = 1
SynAttackProtect = 1
Tcp1323Opts = 1
TcpLogLevel = 1
TcpMaxDupAttacks = 2
TcpMaxHalfOpen = 100
TcpMaxHalfOpenRetired = 80
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 1460
TcpSendSegmentSize = 1460
TcpTimedWaitDelay = 30
TcpUseRFC1122UrgentPointer = 0
TcpWindowSize = 256960
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server = 10
MaxConnectionsPerServer = 10
DefaultTimeToLive = 64
DefaultUserTOSSetting = 0
TcpMaxDataRetransmissions = 6
DefaultTOSValue = 80

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:02 pm

Hm got the problem that in Cs 1.6 i get alot of choke and i dont understand why. i have 8/1 telia and good rates..

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:15 am

need TCP Analyzer beside that Tracert

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:24 pm

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 03.28.2010 17:24
IP address: 90.227.xx.xxx
Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 256960 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
BDP limit (200ms): 10278kbps (1285KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 4111kbps (514KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 52
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 01010000 (80)
Precedence: 010 (immediate)
Delay: 1 (low delay)
Throughput: 0 (normal throughput)
Reliability: 0 (normal reliability)
Cost: 0 (normal cost)
Check bit: 0 (correct)
DiffServ: AF22 010100 (20) - Assured Forwarding class 2, medium drop precedence (RFC 2597).

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:51 pm

What speed package do you pay for again?

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:36 pm

Sava700 wrote:What speed package do you pay for again?

I think 8 Mbps DL / 1 Mbps UL

Maoxi wrote:Hm got the problem that in Cs 1.6 i get alot of choke and i dont understand why. i have 8/1 telia and good rates..

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:43 pm

Maoxi wrote:« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 03.28.2010 17:24
IP address: 90.227.xx.xxx
Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 256960 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
BDP limit (200ms): 10278kbps (1285KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 4111kbps (514KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 52
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 01010000 (80)
Precedence: 010 (immediate)
Delay: 1 (low delay)
Throughput: 0 (normal throughput)
Reliability: 0 (normal reliability)
Cost: 0 (normal cost)
Check bit: 0 (correct)
DiffServ: AF22 010100 (20) - Assured Forwarding class 2, medium drop precedence (RFC 2597).

1. open Cablenut and make it "BLANK" for all settings
2. dont restart ur PC
3. open TCP Optimizer

TCP Optimizer Settings:
General Settings tab:
Custom settings - check
Modify All Network Adapters - check
network adapter selection - your NIC
MTU - 1500
TTL - 64
TCP Receive Window - 256960
MTU Discovery - Yes
Black Hole Detect - No
Selective Acks - Yes
Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
TCP 1323 Options:
Windows Scaling - check
Timestamps - uncheck

Advanced Settings tab:
Max Connections per Server - 10
Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 10
LocalPriority - 5
Host Priority - 6
DNSPriority - 7
NetbtPriority - 8
Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 0
MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
NetFailureCacheTime - 0
NegativeSOACache Time - 0
LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768

Post new TCP Analyzer

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:54 pm

akbarri wrote:I think 8 Mbps DL / 1 Mbps UL

Yeah I figured that just wanted to make sure that's what he meant.

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:09 am

Thanks for helping me everyone! Yea i have 8 mbit dl, 1mbit ul..

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 03.29.2010 08:07
IP address: 90.227.xx.xxx
Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 256960 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
BDP limit (200ms): 10278kbps (1285KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 4111kbps (514KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 52
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:47 am

Maoxi wrote:Thanks for helping me everyone! Yea i have 8 mbit dl, 1mbit ul..

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 03.29.2010 08:07
IP address: 90.227.xx.xxx
Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 256960 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
BDP limit (200ms): 10278kbps (1285KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 4111kbps (514KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 52
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

GOOD

check out everythings! Speedtest, Pingtest & Tracert

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:49 am

Sava700 wrote:Yeah I figured that just wanted to make sure that's what he meant.

confirmed

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:06 am

Hm i think its a little worse than before.. :/ DL is now 7mbit and upload is 0.8mbit. My ping is the same as before 26ms. The wierd thing is that i pay for 8mbit downlaod and 1mbit upload but before i did this changes sometimes i had like 6mbit download but sometimes i had 9mbit.. But i still got the choke in cs 1.6..

ps. Thx again for your help

trogers · Post by **trogers** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:56 pm

Scan for possible malware.

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:42 pm

There were no malware and the choke has got worse than it was before :S

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:10 pm

Maoxi wrote:There were no malware and the choke has got worse than it was before :S

ok c.s 1.6 huh.... what is the IP# to the server your trying to play on? Post a tracert to it please?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:41 pm

Hop 1 is way too high, check/uncoil/replace cables, or move the router way from other electrical devices.

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:00 pm

need Pingtest, to check ur Quality Line
http://www.pingtest.net

after this

YARDofSTUF wrote:Hop 1 is way too high, check/uncoil/replace cables, or move the router way from other electrical devices.

and this one

Sava700 wrote:ok c.s 1.6 huh.... what is the IP# to the server your trying to play on? Post a tracert to it please?

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:43 am

The pingtest show that i got ping: 25ms jitter: 1ms and 0% packet loss.

I did tracert to where i think they get there server hosted from(gametracker.com).. Because it didnt work to do tracert directly to the ip.

Anyway the ip to server is 87.96.204.6:27015 and homepage is counter-snakes.se

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:37 pm

good tracert result

how CS going?

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:47 pm

Well the problem is that i still get this strange choke in cs :/ tomorrow im going to try a new network cable and move my router, maybe that will help.

Should i really not use cablenuts at all? just the tcpoptimizer?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:53 pm

Maoxi wrote:The pingtest show that i got ping: 25ms jitter: 1ms and 0% packet loss.

I did tracert to where i think they get there server hosted from(gametracker.com).. Because it didnt work to do tracert directly to the ip.

Anyway the ip to server is 87.96.204.6:27015 and homepage is counter-snakes.se

Don't do the trace to gametracker.com do it to 87.69.204.6 you don't need to apply the port.

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:41 am

Maoxi wrote: Should i really not use cablenuts at all? just the tcpoptimizer?

u can set Cablenut "DefaultSendWindow" and leave other Cablenut settings as is / blank

i need speedtest result to recommend Cablenut "DefaultSendWindow" setting.

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:56 am

Akbarri: ok before i used 131072. Speedtest results are

and heres the ping test directly to the server i play on:

Begäran gjorde timeout = Request made timeout

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:06 pm

lots of time outs.. find a new server to play on is my suggestion

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 am

Hm yea i could do that but i got the annoying choke on every server :/

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:19 am

Hm i read about something called RASPPPoE is that anything that can help me if i install it?

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:41 pm

Maoxi wrote:Akbarri: ok before i used 131072. Speedtest results are

and heres the ping test directly to the server i play on:

Begäran gjorde timeout = Request made timeout

correct, set DefaultSendWindow = 131072 (leave others as is)

hop 14-30 was server side problem, nothing we can do

RASPPPoE
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~normanb/
http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php? ... =98&qid=37

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:26 pm

Maoxi wrote:Hm yea i could do that but i got the annoying choke on every server :/

Post the trace's to the other server's you've tried please.

As of now it doesn't look like its your issue but issue's on the server's side. Also if you know it post the location of the servers your trying to play on in relation to yours.

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:22 am

Hm i got no idea about the location.. In cs u cant see how far away the server is :S But i always try to play on swedish server because i live in sweden

But i got 1 question. After i done as you said with all my internet tweaks akbarri it look like this in cablenut:

Shouldnt it be better for my internet if i used the blank settings too? Once a guy in this homepage (speedguide.net) told be the best settings for my internet should be:

So then maybe it will be best if i keep the settings you told me and just fill in the blanks with the settings he wrote for me

?

Thanks everyone for your help!
//Max

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:43 am

Maoxi wrote:Hm i got no idea about the location.. In cs u cant see how far away the server is :S But i always try to play on swedish server because i live in sweden

But i got 1 question. After i done as you said with all my internet tweaks akbarri it look like this in cablenut:

Shouldnt it be better for my internet if i used the blank settings too? Once a guy in this homepage (speedguide.net) told be the best settings for my internet should be:

So then maybe it will be best if i keep the settings you told me and just fill in the blanks with the settings he wrote for me ?

Thanks everyone for your help!
//Max

just make comparison for both settings. (i bet for "blanks / 1st pic" ones

)
3 - 5 times
- http://www.speedtest.net
- http://www.pingtest.net
- tracert

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:41 am

Ok let's se what u think :P Test1 (your settings, pic 1)
Speedtest :
DL 7.06mbit UL 0.86 MS 27
DL 7.05 UL 0.86 MS 29
DL 7.03 UL 0.87 MS 32

Pingtest:
Loss 0% Ping 25ms Jitter 1
Loss 0% Ping 25ms Jitter 1
Loss 0% Ping 25ms Jitter 1

Tracert :

Test2----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speedtest:
DL 12.05 UL 0.73 MS 27
DL 7.38 UL 0.78 MS 28
DL 10.43 UL 0.86 MS 30

Pingtest:
Loss 0% Ping 25ms Jitter 0
Loss 0% Ping 24ms Jitter 0
Loss 0% Ping 25ms Jitter 1

Tracert:

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:46 am

So which should i pick :P and/or i could also try the settings that the cablenut homepage calculator tell me to use:

I really hope you can recommend something for me because im so confused

Ps: in the calculator i wrote my dl is 8000kbps ul 1000kbps and latency 29ms

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:47 am

Pic1 = stable DL/UL (88% from ads speed), stable pingtest, good tracert
Pic2 = unstable DL/UL (could get higher DL but lower UL), unstable pingtest (could get better jitter or worse ping), not bad tracert

i still bet with "1st pic" but i see that u could get 12.05Mbps speedtest
so i change TCPO settings to
TCP Optimizer Settings:
General Settings tab:
Custom settings - check
Modify All Network Adapters - check
network adapter selection - your NIC
MTU - 1500
TTL - 64
TCP Receive Window - 513920
MTU Discovery - Yes
Black Hole Detect - No
Selective Acks - Yes
Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
TCP 1323 Options:
Windows Scaling - check
Timestamps - uncheck

Advanced Settings tab:
Max Connections per Server - 10
Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 10
LocalPriority - 5
Host Priority - 6
DNSPriority - 7
NetbtPriority - 8
Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 0
MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
NetFailureCacheTime - 0
NegativeSOACache Time - 0
LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768

Cablenut Settings
DefaultSendWindow = 131072 (leave others as is)

"Round 2" Fight

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:01 pm

Maoxi wrote:So which should i pick :P and/or i could also try the settings that the cablenut homepage calculator tell me to use:

I really hope you can recommend something for me because im so confused

Ps: in the calculator i wrote my dl is 8000kbps ul 1000kbps and latency 29ms

put it on the arena

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:20 am

Hhaha round 2:
Test3:

Speed
7.05 0.76 28
7.01 0.86 30
7.01 0.78 32

Ping
0% 24 0
0% 25 1
0% 25 0

Tracert:

Test4:

Speed
9.76 0.48 28
8.02 0.87 30
8.52 0.74 28

Ping
0% 26 1
0% 25 1
0% 25 0

Tracert:

AND the winner is!!! Test1 (i guess :P)

ps. It's wierd that i can get more than 8mbit dl because i cant even pay for higher.. :O 8mbit is the highest i can get where i live right now ^^

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:44 am

Maoxi wrote:Hhaha round 2:
Test3:

Speed
7.05 0.76 28
7.01 0.86 30
7.01 0.78 32

Ping
0% 24 0
0% 25 1
0% 25 0

Tracert:

Test4:

Speed
9.76 0.48 28
8.02 0.87 30
8.52 0.74 28

Ping
0% 26 1
0% 25 1
0% 25 0

Tracert:

AND the winner is!!! Test1 (i guess :P)

ps. It's wierd that i can get more than 8mbit dl because i cant even pay for higher.. :O 8mbit is the highest i can get where i live right now ^^

the winners:
stable DL/UL, stable pingtest, good tracert = Test 1
highest DL (but unstable DL/UL), not bad pingtest, not bad tracert = Test 4

use settings that suit with u

this is why u could get more than 8Mbps :

BDP (bytes) = total_available_bandwidth (KBytes/sec) x round_trip_time/RTT (ms)

example :
1st settings i put
TCP Receive Window = 256960

let say
Latency = 200ms

so ur estimate max DL speed
256960/200ms = 1284,8 * 8 = 10278,4 kbps = 10,3 Mbps

cause Latency is Variable value that why DL/UL speed also Variable

let see if
Latency = 500ms
256960/500ms = 513,92 * 8 = 4111,36 kbps = 4,1 Mbps (bad DL hah)

(u can easely read TCP Analyzer => BDP limit)
hope it help

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:07 am

Hm maybe i should use test4.. Because the difference was the unstable dl but it was never below 8mbps so it was actually always higher dl than test1..
http://www.j79zlr.com/cablenutXP2k.php <--- that's the calculator i used.. The settings i should choose/write there is dsl with router, dl 8000kbps, ul 1000kbps and latency 200ms right?

Maoxi · Post by **Maoxi** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:14 am

Hm i have thought on a mix between test 1 and 4.. It look like this:

Maybe i should try it :O What's your thought about it( you're the smart one)?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:30 pm

I really don't think the problem is on your end dude, I think its within the network route. I'd talk to the tech support for your ISP and see what they can do and perhaps try other servers.

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:26 am

Maoxi wrote:Hm maybe i should use test4.. Because the difference was the unstable dl but it was never below 8mbps so it was actually always higher dl than test1..
http://www.j79zlr.com/cablenutXP2k.php <--- that's the calculator i used.. The settings i should choose/write there is dsl with router, dl 8000kbps, ul 1000kbps and latency 200ms right?

yap, dl 8000kbps, ul 1000kbps and latency 200ms

Maoxi wrote:Hm i have thought on a mix between test 1 and 4.. It look like this:

Maybe i should try it :O What's your thought about it( you're the smart one)?

i prefer to blank this settings :
MaxNormLookupMemory
MaxFreeTcbs
MaxHashTableSize
FastSendDatagramThreshhold
EnableFastRouteLookup » might interfere with other network settings.

read the bottom of that page
http://www.j79zlr.com/cablenutXP2k.php