Rate this card?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:05 pm

What do you think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814161287

A friend of mine was looking at this for a Crossfire configuration and was thinking about a couple of these. I'm too out of the hardware loop right now to have any clue.

Thanks

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:47 pm

I prefer Nvidia over ATI, better drivers supporting more features and such.... the cards are usually cheaper and matched about the same in performance too.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:49 pm

I'd go a single 5770
In the same price range nVidias GTS250..the 5570 kicks the carp out of it, for 30 bucks less, and is DX11 supporting.
I wouldn't spend money on a non-DX11 card. ATI 5000 series.
5750 if on a tighter budget.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:53 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:I'd go a single 5770
In the same price range nVidias GTS250..the 5570 kicks the carp out of it, for 30 bucks less, and is DX11 supporting.
I wouldn't spend money on a non-DX11 card. ATI 5000 series.
5750 if on a tighter budget.

If he had the money to burn, is there an advantage to the crossfire setup?

2 5770's or 2 5750's?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:00 pm

And why is the card I posted 1/2 the price?

He picked it out but it seems to have similar specs.

Thanks

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:26 pm

Humboldt wrote:And why is the card I posted 1/2 the price?

He picked it out but it seems to have similar specs.

Thanks

350 stream processors vs 800

750mhz core clock vs 850mhz

DX 10 vs DX 11

Its a pretty good difference I'd think.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:05 pm

my 9800GTX is DX11 capable but I'll be honest even a DX10 card is fine as I've yet to really play anything pushing DX10 other than Crysis and other than a recent released Benchmark tool I've not seen DX11 in action much.

I still support Nvidia over ATI anyday..I'll pay the extra 30$ for the better card and support via better drivers/software.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:59 am

Sava700 wrote:my 9800GTX is DX11 capable .

Interesting, from what I've read so far, nVidia has not released their DX11 cards yet, starting with the gt300 family. The 9800 series is from what, 2008 right? Older card.

It's only smart to purchase a DX11 card right now if building a gaming machine. Why not give it an inclining of "future proof". DX games are coming out, no..correct...they have come out. we've seen preveiws of some already, I'm looking forward to at least one of those games soon as I get a card in mine.

You flip flopped up there...first saying nVidia is cheaper, but then saying you'd gladly pay the extra 30 bucks simply for ___whatever.

Years ago nVidia did have a driver advantage, but ATI did a total 180 and swore to once a month new driver releases, and they've since held by that standard.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:59 am

Humboldt wrote:If he had the money to burn, is there an advantage to the crossfire setup?

2 5770's or 2 5750's?

Crossfire advantage begins to shine with very high resolutions...if he's gaming on some 20plus size monitor.

I made that suggestion above..instead of a pair of older 90 dollar cards, why not a pretty decent single 165 dollar card?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:26 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Crossfire advantage begins to shine with very high resolutions...if he's gaming on some 20plus size monitor.

I made that suggestion above..instead of a pair of older 90 dollar cards, why not a pretty decent single 165 dollar card?

I think he's gaming on a 22"

I don't quite remember what he has in there already but it was a pair of very nice (at their time) cards in crossfire configuration. One died and rather than replace it he's looking at a new pair. I'll point out your suggestion to him. I can talk him out of the pair of older $90 cards but his next question will be, "why not 2 $165 cards instead of one?"

thanks guys.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:34 pm

Humboldt wrote:"why not 2 $165 cards instead of one?"

thanks guys.

If his budget supports it...why the heck not. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, your link to a sub-100 dollar vid card was relative to this persons budget.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:05 pm

not even gtx 295 is DX11 capable how can you say your current one 9800gtx is DX11

You might be right, nvidia is more aggressive at releasing drivers but how many times they have been faulty? (game crashes, bsod, multi monitor crash, clone monitors suddenly losing source etc)

5970 is a monster but the price? I dont think so.5870 is a killer and 5850 is lower end gpu.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:15 pm

Rivas wrote:not even gtx 295 is DX11 capable how can you say your current one 9800gtx is DX11

You might be right, nvidia is more aggressive at releasing drivers but how many times they have been faulty? (game crashes, bsod, multi monitor crash, clone monitors suddenly losing source etc)

5970 is a monster but the price? I dont think so.5870 is a killer and 5850 is lower end gpu.

You need a DX11 compatible card to run the DX11 Benchmark released here are the Tech requirements for the Benchmark:

Tessellation feature REQUIRES a GPU with DirectX 11 support!
ATI Radeon HD 2xxx and higher or NVIDIA GeForce 7xxx and higher (recommended: NVIDIA 8800 / AMD 4800 series)
256 Mb of video memory

My 9800GTX runs this benchmark like a champ.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:54 pm

Sava700 wrote:You need a DX11 compatible card to run the DX11 Benchmark released here are the Tech requirements for the Benchmark:

Tessellation feature REQUIRES a GPU with DirectX 11 support!
ATI Radeon HD 2xxx and higher or NVIDIA GeForce 7xxx and higher (recommended: NVIDIA 8800 / AMD 4800 series)
256 Mb of video memory

My 9800GTX runs this benchmark like a champ.

This only means that Windows features DX11, however it will scale down to whatever DX level your GPU is. In your case, DX10.
So yeah your comp has dx11 but can't use it...