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Roody wrote:No idea what you are suggesting here.
He's saying he knows nothing about college football and likes talking from the anus about things unknown.

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mountainman wrote:Wow, great news! It sounds like he's moving along quickly.

It always seems like the very fit heal much quicker than the not-so-fit.

Woohoo!!
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Wow, that is great news...good seeing him heeling and looking ahead to better days.
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A turn for the worse
For those who think Michigan's slide since September has hurt coach Rich Rodriguez in Ann Arbor, it's about to get much, much worse.

The Detroit News reported that the Michigan program in 2008 failed to file required logs used to keep track of how many hours players practiced and worked out. An internal university audit revealed the CARA (countable athletically related activities) logs—which the university uses to stay in compliance with NCAA rules—were missing.

The NCAA, of course, is investigating allegations made by players that Rodriguez and his staff worked players beyond the NCAA's 20-hour limit. The missing logs won't bode well for Rodriguez—with the NCAA or the university. Connect the dots, and it starts to look ugly for Rodriguez—a lot worse than the six losses in the last seven games. When he left West Virginia two years ago, he and his staff were accused of shredding player personnel documents. Here's the problem: In his contract with Michigan, it specifically states that if Rodriguez commits an NCAA violation, he can be fired for cause. And that means Michigan owes him nothing.

Now how big does the Ohio State game look? Win, and the joy of beating your rival for the first time since 2003 salves the wounds. Lose, and Rodriguez might not make it to his third year in Ann Arbor.
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I don't think Rich is going anywhere soon... they haven't really givin him time to recruit and do much with the players. The accusations the team has fallen upon them or even the coaches and Head coach are just that... it may not be determined for a while to go and even then I don't see it as a deal breaker into firing him.
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If no proof comes out showing he broke ncaa rules then I agree with you Sava. Personally I want to see him have another year to implement his system.
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I would agree on keeping him. Haha.

He's great for OSU!!

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mountainman wrote:I would agree on keeping him. Haha.

He's great for OSU!!

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lol well yeah without the full compliment of his players of course he is. You may change your mind sooner then later though. ;)
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RichRod is coming back.
"He will be our coach next year," Martin said after Saturday's season-ending 21-10 loss to Ohio State. "You're asking me today if he's going to be our coach, there's no ifs, ands or buts about it. He is our coach, and he has my full support. He'll be there next year. No question about it."
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Roody wrote:RichRod is coming back.



http://www.freep.com/article/20091122/S ... -next-year
It would have been stupid of him to out Rich at this point after not having enough time to settle in and recruit what he needs. I give him 2 years and unless he has a winning season 8+wins and a win against OSU he will be gone.
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Michigan recruiting news:
Tony Jefferson, the no. 1 athlete prospect in the ESPNU150, and one of the most highly sought-after recruits in the country, enjoyed his official visit to Ann Arbor this weekend.

"It was a lot of fun," said Jefferson of his official visit to Michigan. "You hear about how cold the weather is and everything, and it was cold, but it wasn't anything significant. I really did have a lot of fun. Seeing the stadium like that was crazy with the tradition and everything."

The Chula Vista, California product has been a verbal commitment to UCLA for awhile, but has spoken recently about how he is unsure of his decision. One factor that indicates he might continue to lean against picking the Bruins is that at least two teams, Florida and USC, are now recruiting the multi-talented Jefferson as a running back (some teams see him as a safety). Given the Bruins already have two stud tailback recruits signed for the class of 2010, it would seem unlikely that Jefferson would pick the Bruins if that's the position he wants to play. Still, the Bruins will get the last word, hosting Jefferson for his official visit Dec. 8. He has said he will announce his decision Dec. 14, and UCLA, USC, Florida, Michigan and Arizona all seem to be in the running. The favorite right now? Jefferson won't say, but we're speculating it's the Wolverines.

"There may not be a more fast-twitched athlete in this class -- period. Jefferson has rare burst and acceleration between the white lines and has the ability to be playmaker on both sides of the ball in college."
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This is one that we haven't heard the slightest peep of before -- and frankly it doesn't make a lot of sense given all the candidates out there with Michigan ties -- but Dennis Dodd of CBSSports.com throws out the possibility that Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione could be lured to the Wolverines.

Dodd writes: "That's pure speculation with Bill Martin leaving in June, but Castiglione is the athletic administrative equivalent of Bob Stoops and Urban Meyer. A superstar. If he left for Ann Arbor, it would be a game changer."

Castiglione is a Florida native who graduated from Maryland and worked at Georgetown and Missouri before coming to Norman, but he has twice been named Athletics Director of the Year (by two different organizations). So if Michigan decides it wants to shell out for the best, Castiglione would appear to be it.

Again, we don't buy this for one second, especially given all the talk in Ann Arbor about how the school needs a CEO-type to run the athletic department, but it's out there now.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/w ... index.html

Couldn't agree more. The conference is absolutely loaded this year, but the powers that be need to do better getting them on national tv.
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As I understand it UCLA will wear their home uniforms tonight for their road game against USC much in the same way USC did it at UCLA also. It's cool starting a tradition like that regardless of a silly penalty to start both halves.
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Roody wrote:As I understand it UCLA will wear their home uniforms tonight for their road game against USC much in the same way USC did it at UCLA also. It's cool starting a tradition like that regardless of a silly penalty to start both halves.
costly penalty... I'm sure at some point they may make that penalty worse than just losing a time out.
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Sava700 wrote:costly penalty... .
One that both teams are willing to deal with when each is a visitor. Ultimately it's what they both want to do and they are willing to suffer the consequences of a penalty so it's all good from both teams perspectives and it's fans.
I'm sure at some point they may make that penalty worse than just losing a time out
Give me a break. Once again you have nothing to base that comment on. That stuff is becoming a habit with you. Give me one example to even base that theory on other then you throwing out an idea because you personally don't like it. I will be waiting for a link from you showing that this will become anything other then what it currently is as stated from either the NCAA or the officiating crews.
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Roody wrote:
Give me a break. Once again you have nothing to base that comment on. That stuff is becoming a habit with you. Give me one example to even base that theory on other then you throwing out an idea because you personally don't like it. I will be waiting for a link from you showing that this will become anything other then what it currently is as stated from either the NCAA or the officiating crews.
a link from me?? WTF? Your always wanting some sort of link... dude I don't have the time nor desire to go google hunting for something that stupid. I don't care if they wear bikini's and high heels, I just think its time to lay the law down from the NCAA or the Officiating crews on instances like this when rules are rules...you seem to enjoy the fact that they break rules but thats ok, thats you and I'm not asking you to come off with some "LINK" for your thoughts... my god man give me a break! :rolleyes:
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Sava700 wrote:a link from me?? WTF? Your always wanting some sort of link... dude I don't have the time nor desire to go google hunting for something that stupid. I don't care if they wear bikini's and high heels, I just think its time to lay the law down from the NCAA or the Officiating crews on instances like this when rules are rules...you seem to enjoy the fact that they break rules but thats ok, thats you and I'm not asking you to come off with some "LINK" for your thoughts... my god man give me a break! :rolleyes:
So you make a claim that you think something will happen regarding making the current penalty worse, but then have nothing to support that claim.
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Early score by USC on an interception return for a TD. UCLA is in blue throwback jerseys.

USC - 7
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I am completely disgusted by USC's offense tonight. It's 7-0 USC at the half.
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Roody wrote:I am completely disgusted by USC's offense tonight. It's 7-0 USC at the half.
Yes.

*snore*
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Nothing but respect Pete and USC. Fight On Jake! :)

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Emerald Bowl
Boston College vs. USC
Dec. 26, San Francisco (ESPN, 8 ET)



Why to watch: To see whether the Trojans mail it in. And to see whether the notoriously uninterested Eagles fans travel across country the day after Christmas in numbers great enough to fill a cable car.



Who's happier to be there: BC, you think? The Trojans have been a monster bowl team under Pete Carroll (13) (6-2, with all the wins by a minimum of two touchdowns), but they're accustomed to BCS bowls. The Dash figures there's a good chance USC arrives in full sulk mode after a dismal season.



Moderately useful Dash fact: According to Phil Steele's 2009 College Football Preview ratings, Boston College does not have a single player who was in the national top 20 prospects at his position coming out of high school. USC has 50. Yes, 50.



Completely useless Dash fact: This is USC's ninth straight bowl bid. And BC's 11th straight.



Dash pick: USC 17, Boston College 9.
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His pick only puts USC 8points over BC...that's a TD so it can be very close and BC may win this game :)
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USC has been picked by CNNSI as the decades best team. :thumb:
BEST PROGRAM: USC
Under Pete Carroll's direction, the Trojans became the sport's most dominant program, winning seven straight Pac-10 titles (2002-08), six BCS bowl games and two national titles (2003 AP; 2004 unanimous). At one point from 2003-05, Carroll's teams won 34 straight games, tying Miami for the longest streak this decade. USC won 11 or more games for seven straight seasons while consistently playing one of the nation's toughest schedules.
Not to mention best recruiting class for 2003.
BEST RECRUITING CLASS: USC, 2003
This was the second in a string of five straight Pete Carroll classes that garnered a No. 1 ranking from at least one major service and produced many of the stars who keyed USC's 34-game winning streak. Among them: future Heisman winner Bush, running back LenDale White, receiver Steve Smith, tackle Sam Baker, defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis and defensive end Lawrence Jackson. Cornerback Will Poole, a transfer, started for the '03 champs. Eventual starting quarterback John David Booty was a late addition.
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McKnight breaking NCAA rules it would seem....
USC tailback Joe McKnight has been driving a 2006 Land Rover owned by a Santa Monica, Calif., businessman, the Los Angeles Times reported on Friday.

USC is investigating McKnight's use of the vehicle to find out if it is in violation NCAA rules. It is against NCAA rules for athletes to accept benefits from agents or marketing representatives, or to accept "extra benefits" based on their ability.

The Times reported McKnight has been seen driving the SUV, which the California Department of Motor Vehicles says is registered to Scott Schenter.

Schenter, 47, works in marketing and owns a company that registered a Web site called 4joemcknight.com, according to the newspaper.

I hope they investigate this good this time around and make sure they bring the hammer down. These kids need to play by the rules.

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Sava700 wrote:McKnight breaking NCAA rules it would seem....




I hope they investigate this good this time around and make sure they bring the hammer down. These kids need to play by the rules.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4755867
Going to wait and see how this plays out before passing judgment. Not sure what your suggestion is about "this time" Sava? As for McKnight if he did something wrong than I support his having to sit, but until proof comes out against him I'm not going to jump to conclusions. Regardless I imagine if USC has any doubt they will sit him next saturday. No need threatening chances of a win by playing a player who could end up being ineligible. As for the source of this situation the guy is less than reputable and has a history of making accusations that end up being bogus.
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Stephenson leads USC to 77-55 rout of No. 9 Vols

LOS ANGELES(AP) Tennessee coach Bruce Pearl didn't have much of a scouting report on Southern Cal point guard Mike Gerrity , mostly because he wasn't sure the floor general would be eligible to play.

Pearl wound up seeing plenty of him on Saturday afternoon.

Gerrity had 12 points and 10 assists as the Trojans routed the No. 9 Vols 77-55, their worst loss since Pearl took over before the 2005-06 season.

''They're a completely different team with him running the show,'' Pearl said. ''We knew he could become eligible, but we hadn't seen him on any tape. ... His play was a huge factor in their dominating us.''

Gerrity was making his debut for Southern Cal (5-4) after transferring from Charlotte following the first semester of last season. He helped the Trojans build a 24-point lead in the second half, as Southern Cal won its third straight and first against a ranked team.

Considering Gerrity hadn't played a game since March 2008, USC coach Kevin O'Neill said he was ''shocked at how well he played.'' Gerrity found out Friday that he would be eligible.

''It was incredible, it felt so good,'' Gerrity said. ''From the moment we tipped, I found my way into the game a few minutes and once I got that comfort (level), it was just unbelievable the rest of the game.''

Alex Stepheson had 19 points and a career-high 15 rebounds, while Nikola Vucevic added 15 points and 10 rebounds for the Trojans, giving them three players with double-doubles.

Scotty Hopson had 16 points to lead Tennessee (8-2), which was out-rebounded 43-21 and had its own four-game win streak snapped. Melvin Goins added 10 points.

Gerrity did most of his work in the first half, handing out seven assists and grabbing three rebounds. Dwight Lewis did his damage after the break, scoring 11 of his 21 points - including all nine during a 9-2 run that made it 59-40.

''I thought at halftime if we could come out and not let them barrage us in the first seven or eight minutes in the second half that we would have a chance,'' O'Neill said. ''I didn't think we'd beat them like this.''

Tennessee committed just eight turnovers, but shot a season-low 2 of 22 (9.1 percent) from beyond the 3-point line and scored a season-low 55 points. The Vols entered the week eighth in the nation in scoring offense (85.0) and seventh in 3-point field goal percentage (43.4).

''I couldn't be happier with it,'' O'Neill said of his team's defense. ''I thought we did a great job of protecting the paint. I thought our guys did a good job of being in their air space and changing their shots.''

Tennessee struggled early and never found a rhythm, missing their first nine 3-pointers and making just 2 of 14 field goals. The drought allowed USC to jump out to an early 11-5 lead.

''Early in the game we had good looks and we just didn't make anything,'' Pearl said. ''They pack it in defensively and we've got to be able to make shots.''

The Vols employed a full-court press that led to seven unanswered points, capped by consecutive lay-ups from Bobby Maze to give Tennessee a lead. But the Trojans' Marcus Johnson scored seven points during a 14-1 run over the final 4 minutes of the first half.

The Trojans shot 61.9 percent from the field while holding the Vols to a season-low 29.6 percentage in building their 33-20 halftime lead. The 20 points were the fewest Tennessee has scored this season.
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Roody wrote:Going to wait and see how this plays out before passing judgment. Not sure what your suggestion is about "this time" Sava? As for McKnight if he did something wrong than I support his having to sit, but until proof comes out against him I'm not going to jump to conclusions. Regardless I imagine if USC has any doubt they will sit him next saturday. No need threatening chances of a win by playing a player who could end up being ineligible. As for the source of this situation the guy is less than reputable and has a history of making accusations that end up being bogus.
We shall see.... as for "this time", I think Reggie Bush rings a bell...
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I can't stand basketball.. horrible and boring sport.
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Sava700 wrote:We shall see.... as for "this time", I think Reggie Bush rings a bell...
Neither Reggie or the school were EVER found guilty for anything and this is several years after those accusations started. I didn't realize you believed in guilty until proven innocent.
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Roody wrote:Neither Reggie or the school were EVER found guilty for anything and this is several years after those accusations started. I didn't realize you believed in guilty until proven innocent.
I still believe Reggie was guilty... I guess I'm just part of the majority that still believe that. But as I said..that's just a different conversation just clearing up why I said "this time".
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Sava700 wrote:I still believe Reggie was guilty... I guess I'm just part of the majority that still believe that. But as I said..that's just a different conversation just clearing up why I said "this time".
You can believe what you want. Facts are there is nothing to prove your theory that Reggie was guilty.
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these kids get money...period. it does not matter if they find it in their hotel room bibles, like i did, or they get cars. some kid/s from EVERY school gets illegal benefits in every sport every year. period.

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Gixxer wrote:these kids get money...period. it does not matter if they find it in their hotel room bibles, like i did, or they get cars. some kid/s from EVERY school gets illegal benefits in every sport every year. period.

mcknight
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I disagree... most are honest kids and won't accept it by their own understanding or by rules. If you got money in your hotel room bible then must have been someone staying there before you that left it as a secure spot and its your mistake for taking it..and from a bible at that. I would have turned it in.
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The hits just keep coming for USC .

Tight end Anthony McCoy, offensive tackle Tyron Smith and defensive tackle Averell Spicer have been ruled academically ineligible for the Emerald Bowl against Boston College on Saturday, the school announced.

McCoy and Smith are both starters and earned honorable mention All-Pac-10 honors. Spicer is a key reserve. McCoy and Spicer are both seniors, so their USC careers are over.
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This should certainly help BC's offense have less pressure on them to score a bunch of points now.
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Gixxer wrote:these kids get money...period. it does not matter if they find it in their hotel room bibles, like i did, or they get cars. some kid/s from EVERY school gets illegal benefits in every sport every year. period.

mcknight
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I got to agree with Sava here. Of course there is no proof that Bush or McKnight did get paid so putting them in that category doesn't hold anyway.
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Not surprisingly a news outlet hurries a story thus looking like idiots in the process. :rolleyes:

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