please keep the borders open

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:52 am

so we can be the minority in our own country

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,505105,00.html

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:59 am

Oh for gawdz sake.......

Figure it out, Gixxer. That's been OLD news for years now.

Want to CHANGE them figures? Support a Federal Government here that will put pressure on the Mexican government to clean up it's act.

I can bet you everything you own that if they had a great economy and your family was starving, dying of the lack of basic human health care and getting murdered over drug wars, you'd be thinking about moving there in a hot second, picking jalapenos and weeding the cucumber fields.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:01 am

downhill wrote:Oh for gawdz sake.......

Figure it out, Gixxer. That's been OLD news for years now.

Want to CHANGE them figures? Support a Federal Government here that will put pressure on the Mexican government to clean up it's act.

I can bet you everything you own that if they had a great economy and your family was starving, dying of the lack of basic human health care and getting murdered over drug wars, you'd be thinking about moving there in a hot second, picking jalapenos and weeding the cucumber fields.

1 in 4 is not old news. the rapid increase of the immigrant population is old news. you are correct in that i would do whatever it took to provide for my family.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:06 am

No it is old news. I've posted before that by (didn't read the article) 2020, it's projected that Hispanics will be the majority in this country.

Then let's see all the "George Will" crying about equal opportunity. lol

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:11 am

downhill wrote:No it is old news. I've posted before that by (didn't read the article) 2020, it's projected that Hispanics will be the majority in this country.

Then let's see all the "George Will" crying about equal opportunity. lol

i have seen figures but not 1 in 4

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:14 pm

Gixxer wrote:so we can be the minority in our own country

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,505105,00.html

Gixxer, when you say we, do you mean Caucasians?

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:26 pm

Gixxer wrote:so we can be the minority in our own country

What nationality (ies) make up your bloodline? I recall some pictures of you posted in the past, if I recall correctly, you have darker hair and skin is a bit too dark to be of WASP descent.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:58 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:What nationality (ies) make up your bloodline? I recall some pictures of you posted in the past, if I recall correctly, you have darker hair and skin is a bit too dark to be of WASP descent.

Whoa.....look out, Cat has his racial profiling database up and running lol!!!!!

But really, what is a minority these days? Is it based on race or is it based on wealth?

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:20 pm

triniwasp wrote:Gixxer, when you say we, do you mean Caucasians?

i guess i do and it could include blacks as well.

YeOldeStonecat wrote:What nationality (ies) make up your bloodline? I recall some pictures of you posted in the past, if I recall correctly, you have darker hair and skin is a bit too dark to be of WASP descent.

i think there is a little german (although not sure) ... i do have brown hair, but the skin is from a tan.

JawZ wrote:Whoa.....look out, Cat has his racial profiling database up and running lol!!!!!

But really, what is a minority these days? Is it based on race or is it based on wealth?

good question.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:21 pm

JawZ wrote:Whoa.....look out, Cat has his racial profiling database up and running lol!!!!!

But really, what is a minority these days? Is it based on race or is it based on wealth?

I'm not WASP either!

I just have a quick eye for regional differences in people...did a lot of social and anthro back in the days.

I'm a mutt! Mostly Irish (which..we were hated back in the Irish immigration days...lower class), German, a little French, and some American Indian (Crow..Green Mountains).

But on the flip side...having native American in me..gives me an "my ancestors were here first" edge.

valid point that "majority/minority" is slowly being applicable to the financial class of people.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:23 pm

Gixxer wrote:i guess i do and it could include blacks as well.

i think there is a little german (although not sure) ... i do have brown hair, but the skin is from a tan.

good question.

Not to mention religious or political affiliations. I think many of us have some sort of minority affiliation.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:23 pm

Gixxer wrote: i think there is a little german (although not sure) ... i do have brown hair, but the skin is from a tan..

Eh I can eyeball a "tan" pretty well. I'd wager slavic/balkan background.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:28 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:I'm not WASP either! I just have a quick eye for regional differences in people...did a lot of social and anthro back in the days.

I'm a mutt! Mostly Irish (which..we were hated back in the Irish immigration days...lower class), German, a little French, and some American Indian (Crow..Green Mountains).

But on the flip side...having native American in me..gives me an "my ancestors were here first" edge.

valid point that "majority/minority" is slowly being applicable to the financial class of people.

Agreed, you are just a damn hippie!!!! LOL j/k

I'm Irish and German...AFAIK.

What bothers me most is when status dictates "rights".

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:28 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Eh I can eyeball a "tan" pretty well. I'd wager slavic/balkan background.

mmmmm, i dont think so. maybe a little russian.

edit: that is all tan due to building a fence in the summer for a month straight all day when i had time and then in cali for a couple weeks.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:34 pm

Gixxer wrote:mmmmm, i dont think so. maybe a little russian.

edit: that is all tan due to building a fence in the summer for a month straight all day when i had time and then in cali for a couple weeks.

Same difference pinko!

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:37 pm

JawZ wrote:Same difference pinko!

SouthEast Russia....SouthWestern Europe. Quite different from NorthEast Russia and Northern Europe.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:38 pm

JawZ wrote:Agreed, you are just a damn hippie!!!! LOL j/k

Sorta...well, I am a beach-bum!

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:41 pm

JawZ wrote:Same difference pinko!

i thought so, but like to be precise with you fellows if i can. call it conditioned behavior.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:01 pm

Gixxer wrote:i thought so, but like to be precise with you fellows if i can. call it conditioned behavior.

It's all good, I always wanted to be a Viking.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:49 pm

JawZ wrote:Whoa.....look out, Cat has his racial profiling database up and running lol!!!!

From the picture in your sig I think you need some dental work too!

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:54 pm

i just want the people that do come over here to follow the rules, that's all, i don't mind people immigrating, i just want them to do it legally and pay taxes like everyone else

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:01 pm

Brent wrote:i just want the people that do come over here to follow the rules, that's all, i don't mind people immigrating, i just want them to do it legally and pay taxes like everyone else

aww but really Brent.. look at it closer or farther away it really doesn't matter cause either way you do its bad to just open the boarders like that. Perhaps the next one that comes in over the border takes your job..what then?

SeedOfChaos · Post by **SeedOfChaos** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:34 pm

Gixxer wrote:maybe a little russian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:26 pm

SeedOfChaos wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples

like i said, i thought so, but without checking i spelled it out so "phooey on you." (in russian\slavic)

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:13 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote: a little French

What part?

Gixxer wrote:mmmmm, i dont think so. maybe a little russian.

edit: that is all tan due to building a fence in the summer for a month straight all day when i had time and then in cali for a couple weeks.

Gix...What are you...spell it out. What is your ethnic background!

Brent wrote:i just want the people that do come over here to follow the rules, that's all, i don't mind people immigrating, i just want them to do it legally and pay taxes like everyone else

This country is made up of immigrants. We just got lax in the immigration process. It needs work.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:20 pm

Debbie wrote:What part?

Gix...What are you...spell it out. What is your ethnic background!

This country is made up of immigrants. We just got lax in the immigration process. It needs work.

???????

gussian????

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:58 am

Sava700 wrote:aww but really Brent.. look at it closer or farther away it really doesn't matter cause either way you do its bad to just open the boarders like that. Perhaps the next one that comes in over the border takes your job..what then?

Is it any different if he loses his job to whitey whiterson down the street?

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:10 am

tao_jones wrote:Is it any different if he loses his job to whitey whiterson down the street?

it is different if the person he loses his job to is here illegally

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:18 am

Gixxer wrote:it is different if the person he loses his job to is here illegally

yeah you took the words out of my mouth

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:35 am

Debbie wrote:What part?

Gix...What are you...spell it out. What is your ethnic background!

This country is made up of immigrants. We just got lax in the immigration process. It needs work.

Do you have some Irish in you?

If not, do you want some?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:56 am

Ken wrote:Do you have some Irish in you?

If not, do you want some?

Saw that one coming.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:59 am

Debbie wrote:
This country is made up of immigrants. We just got lax in the immigration process. It needs work.

Exactly.

Somewhere around 3 million of the US population is native American..the rest of us....our ancestors immigrated here.

I don't mind people moving here from other countries..as long as it's done correctly.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:00 am

Roody wrote:Saw that one coming.

There's a pun somewhere in there too.

David · Post by **David** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:21 pm

JawZ wrote:It's all good, I always wanted to be a Viking.

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5:26 mark...

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:28 pm

Gixxer wrote:it is different if the person he loses his job to is here illegally

The article is about Hispanic enrollment in schools and colleges rising...

How are they getting into school if they are illegal...?

Do you feel like you are entitled to a job because you were born here?

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:31 pm

Heaven forbid someone move here for a better education and to try to better your lives ot they came here illegally and now try to migrate their way through the system to become citizens.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:58 pm

Ken wrote:Do you have some Irish in you?

If not, do you want some?

You are Irish????????????

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:06 pm

tao_jones wrote:Heaven forbid someone move here for a better education and to try to better your lives ot they came here illegally and now try to migrate their way through the system to become citizens.

Every wave of immigrants has faced persecution, Irish, Chinese, Italians, now it is the Mexicans. It's pretty typical reaction, not that I like it anymore than you.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:19 am

Right now, our farmers can't sell corn and are prepared for the worst. It costs them $5.50 to grow a bushel and it only sells for $3.

If we collapse and we can't pay our forces to protect our southern flank, the fleeing Mexicans will push north/northwest through Texas into the heart of our farming areas. It will be like a surge and from there, they can get established and entrenched.

IF they collapse first, I think we'll see 1 million Mexican refugees seek safety inside our border.

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:22 am

JawZ wrote:Right now, our farmers can't sell corn and are prepared for the worst. It costs them $5.50 to grow a bushel and it only sells for $3.

If we collapse and we can't pay our forces to protect our southern flank, the fleeing Mexicans will push north/northwest through Texas into the heart of our farming areas. It will be like a surge and from there, they can get established and entrenched.

IF they collapse first, I think we'll see 1 million Mexican refugees seek safety inside our border.

It seems we've always been concerned with what was going on across town as opposed to our own backyard.