kaspersky av 2009

ctodd · Post by **ctodd** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:31 pm

I just installed the trial version. I know a few of you use this. Is it just me or does it scan really slow? Any pointers on this software will be great.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:54 pm

solution

Uninstall kaspersky av 2009, reboot , then install Avast Home

ctodd · Post by **ctodd** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:52 pm

So its that easy Sava?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:03 pm

ctodd wrote:So its that easy Sava?

yeah cause kaspersky is crap compared to Avast... which is IMO the best Free anti-virus...its even better than some if not most of the paid software.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:07 pm

KAV is one of the consistant top 3 in detection and removal.

AntiVir, KAV, Eset.

http://www.av-comparatives.org QFT

24giovanni · Post by **24giovanni** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:15 pm

Here is another http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/ I would add bitdefender as well.

ctodd · Post by **ctodd** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:35 pm

Any thought on trend-micro?

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:29 pm

Trend Micro is pretty good.

The AV-Comparatives.org is the only site I trust for antivirus reviews. Unbiased...they will not be bought for ratings.

That top ten reviews dot com up above? Ever notice a correlation between the winners..and the "Buy Now" PAID advertising links on his site? Key word.."Affiliate". 20% in his pocket.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:30 pm

ctodd wrote:Any thought on trend-micro?

OMG... please say you didn't say Trend-Micro. The school I work for has it by license for the students to use..and this is the big version Enterprise and it doesn't do anything. It may pick up something but it has no real way of removing the infection. Thats the first thing I uninstall when cleaning a machine cause its bloated as well and pretty much useless.

Stick to Avast man you will be happy in the long run. Its not failed me yet cleaning infections from at least several computers every day. And when a antivirus does that for me everyday I'll stand by it no matter what some compare site says.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:44 pm

Sava700 wrote:solution

Uninstall kaspersky av 2009, reboot , then install Avast Home

Holy horrible advice!

KAV is probably the best virus scanner out there right now.

I also like your jab at the comparatives site.

ctodd, download a trial of Eset NOD32, its one of the faster scanners, still good quality and frequent updates.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:42 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Holy horrible advice!

KAV is probably the best virus scanner out there right now.

I also like your jab at the comparatives site.

ctodd, download a trial of Eset NOD32, its one of the faster scanners, still good quality and frequent updates.

naw good advice and it wasn't a stab it was the truth. When I use it that many times EVERYDAY its very good advice.

ctodd, just follow what I told ya and you can't go wrong!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:19 am

Sava700 wrote:naw good advice and it wasn't a stab it was the truth. When I use it that many times EVERYDAY its very good advice.

ctodd, just follow what I told ya and you can't go wrong!

According to stonecat Avast is having trouble catching AVXP 2009.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:20 am

I gotta admit...with this recent outbreak of new AV2009 trojan variants....the amount of rigs we fix that have either AVG or Avast on them....we use AntiVir to mop up what slipped past Avast or AVG.

It's my new favorite for the freebies I do out there..no bias based on me selling a product and making money...I want to install what will not return to me broken again.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:31 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:According to stonecat Avast is having trouble catching AVXP 2009.

Ohh the ole Antivirus 2009 lol yeah I clean it everyday from at least a few machines with yes Avast and a combo of superantispyware,malware bytes.

nasty thing and very confusing to those that don't know any better..I've had a few students pay for it. I've advised them to get their money back, watch their accounts and be more careful next time.

Dude, I clean this crap off of computers everyday using the same tools and it works perfectly in the steps I've setup. I've seen a machine most recently infected with the AVXP 2009 junk while having kaspersky installed on it, norton installed on it, trend micro, AVG, and McAfee.... all of them have failed to do anything to stop it so they are the first to go from the uninstall list.

I can post some screen shots of it in action if ya like?

I swear by Avast from what I've seen..never failed me yet. When or if it does, then I'll look at other alternatives but in a student atmosphere such as what I'm in and these guys that constantly hunt free porn, movies, music etc.. they click and download anything... even Facebook viruses get the hurtin put on them by Avast

ctodd · Post by **ctodd** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:57 am

somebody throw me a key to the "best" one and I will give it a try. I can get trend micro internet security free, but it seems the be a resource hog to me.

I may try the trial of NOD32.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:09 am

If you want free go with Avira Antivir.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:17 am

ctodd wrote:somebody throw me a key to the "best" one and I will give it a try. I can get trend micro internet security free, but it seems the be a resource hog to me.

I may try the trial of NOD32.

They all have trials....that's just as good.

Just make sure you fully uninstall any prior product before installing whichever you wish to try. And also run a TCP/Winsock repair utility in between each one too.

In my opinion, in working on computers for a living over a long period of time and with every brand out there....Kaspersky, NOD32, and now..Antivir..are in the tops. BitDefender is also very good..albiet a bit on the heavy side. Trend Micro is consistantly pretty good too.

Many years ago all the freebie AV jobs I did was AVG..but they've fallen behind for a long time now...so I started using Avast for my freebie jobs. I hold it better than AVG...but too many complaints from end users that it really slowed down their PCs, and a few trojans slipped by it..so about a year ago I started using AntiVir for my freebies. It also happens to be one of the lightest ones out there..on par with NOD32 for lightness..which keeps end users happy. I don't think Avast sucks...I just believe, based on substantial personal experience, and feedback from end users, that AntiVir is superior.

For my business clients I use NOD32...it's a pay for..and what we use on our clients office networks.

Just try a few of them. Not all antivirus programs run consistent on peoples various PCs..some antivirus programs run better than others on your PC...while on someone elses PC it may be the other way around. Gotta try a few different ones and see which one works best for you.

For track records of the antivirus programs...all the good tech websites hold AV-Comparatives as the best antivirus test site. Unbiased, and true real world test conditions that are consistently done fairly. Yes the site is difficult to read and compare different tests..but once you get the hang of it..you can see which products rate the best...importantly..over time.

24giovanni · Post by **24giovanni** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:28 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Trend Micro is pretty good.

The AV-Comparatives.org is the only site I trust for antivirus reviews. Unbiased...they will not be bought for ratings.

That top ten reviews dot com up above? Ever notice a correlation between the winners..and the "Buy Now" PAID advertising links on his site? Key word.."Affiliate". 20% in his pocket.

Cat, Are you debating whether bitdefender is one of the top AV out there? Just curious as to your opinion? If so, I can give you plenty more reviews/threads than the one above.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:48 am

24giovanni wrote:Cat, Are you debating whether bitdefender is one of the top AV out there? Just curious as to your opinion?

Do a search of bitdefender in our forums here....you'll see I've consistently mentioned it as a good product, especially last year when it was consistently doing well. You've even made a few dozen threads asking about it...in which I've replied in, remember? It's fallen a bit this year though, but still doing above average. A tiny bit on the heavy side, so I don't use or install it.

It is a product..if I see it on someones machine that I'm working on, I will leave it on the computer....versus many other antivirus brands that I would want to replace with a better product.

What I'm stating about top ten reviews is that it's heavily ragged on as an affiliation site..they "praise" whoever purchases good advertising from them.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:00 am

I'm dead serious..you want Free go with Avast And the home edition.. its a free key and when it expires you re-register for Free to get another..its very simple. The best freebie hands down that I've used and I've used all the named so far in this thread.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:23 pm

Sava700 wrote:I'm dead serious..you want Free go with Avast And the home edition.. its a free key and when it expires you re-register for Free to get another..its very simple. The best freebie hands down that I've used and I've used all the named so far in this thread.

Take a look at the latest AVComparatives, just released November Pro-Active test, NO comparison between Avira and Avast.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:24 am

mnosteele52 wrote:Take a look at the latest AVComparatives, just released November Pro-Active test, NO comparison between Avira and Avast.

yeah I see that but to be honest I've see it first hand on the differences and Avast is what I prefer, seems to work the best

ctodd · Post by **ctodd** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:51 pm

I tried avast and nod32. I will say that the old cat was right. Nod32 found things that avast didnt.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:40 pm

ctodd wrote:I tried avast and nod32. I will say that the old cat was right. Nod32 found things that avast didnt.

Nod32 I've had the paid version and yes its better than Avast Home Free..
but you asked for what it seemed as Free software which was best and Avast is the best. I guess I didn't understand you right but thats what I got from the "Trial" version of kaspersky that you loaded.. assumed you wanted free stuff.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:46 pm

ctodd wrote:I tried avast and nod32. I will say that the old cat was right. Nod32 found things that avast didnt.

Catman is pretty knowledgeable in this area.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:25 pm

I ran Nod32 for a few years.. it worked great. The only thing I didn't like was the gaming issue it has which UOD will tell you alot about. The paid version of NOD32 is yes very powerful...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:01 am

Sava700 wrote:I ran Nod32 for a few years.. it worked great. The only thing I didn't like was the gaming issue it has which UOD will tell you alot about. The paid version of NOD32 is yes very powerful...

I thought you didn't run an AV on your gaming rig?

Though I use Antivir now I've never had latency issues with BF42 or BF when gaming with NOD32, but I have dealt with Avast slowing a rig down during gaming as it scans stuff.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:03 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:I thought you didn't run an AV on your gaming rig?

Though I use Antivir now I've never had latency issues with BF42 or BF when gaming with NOD32, but I have dealt with Avast slowing a rig down during gaming as it scans stuff.

I don't run one on either of my two main rigs..one I use for everyday stuff like surfing and working on my website. The other is my gaming rig which yeah I've tried to avoid putting anything other than testing software for bench tests and games on it. UOD has had all kinds of issues with NOD32..I believe he got wind of it back when Crysis was having issues loading into a server when we would play online.

24giovanni · Post by **24giovanni** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:58 pm

Trying KAV now and it is finding a bunch of crap bitdefender hadn't. Scans take forever to run though, like close to 2 hours.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:49 pm

The programs that are better at removal will often take longer in their scan.

Look at SuperAntispyware or MalwareBytes..they can take a while, and they're the best ad/spyware removal programs.

Tis better to take an hour or two longer to run a scan..and have more stuff cleaned/removed.....versus having a quicker scanner that does a 1/2 arse job at removing bad stuff.

On suspect machines, it's better to run your scans in safe mode, results in quicker scan times, and better/more thorough removal of bad stuff.