Obama our new Hitler

[downhill]

That's a weird post. Obama won by a large electoral and popular margin that Bush did in his last election. By a lot. The time before that? Gore won the popular election and Bush won the electoral election by less than 800 votes.

We've had other elections that were also historically closer.

[R0cke113]

I actually don't know what freerepublic is, but I'll check it out. I go off what I have heard Obama say on radio broadcasts and what the news says. NPR it's great stuff with nutcases from both sides. And I am saying Obama is socialist because of the compound of all his ideas.

[downhill]

I love NPR but I sure don't hear on there, what you're putting up. lol


I think if you dig into his history, you'll find he's a lot more moderate than you think. Time will tell and hey, we've had some pretty left leaning Presidents who ended up being great Presidents.

[R0cke113]

You are correct on the Bush Kerry election I was thinking of Bush and Gore. I am referring to the country being split as far as states. The middle states have a lot less people, but are steadily to the republican side of the spectrum. The coasts are very Urban and liberal.

I am in strong belief that we need to de-centralize the government more. One size of pants does not fit every American. I'm not obese or lazy so the same poicies will not fit me. The hole state of PA went for Obama in electoral votes, but the only parts who voted for him were Pittsburgh and Phili.

With primarily the high density urban areas of the country voting for an individual how can we make policies that work for everyone.

[R0cke113]

I do not disagree with half your comment. We have had some great presidents on both sides. I like Obama because he is not a career politician sitting in the same public office making money, further corrupting our political system and preventing any fresh ideas from taking effect.

[downhill]

Personally I think most states are purple. It just depends on what's the political flavor of the month.

Of course that still depends on the state. Some where religion is pretty dominate are still pretty red. It's the abortion and gay rights debates that help swing them states.

[Mark]

I love NPR .........

now that's a surprise

[downhill]

now that's a surprise

Your right of course. I know it gets a bad rap by talk radio as being left leaning.

I find it comical though. If only because of the differences in format between the two.

For instance, let's say they have a discussion on legalizing marijuana on NPR and that same discussion on say, Hannity as his type of format would be pretty much the same for all of conservative talk radio.

We'll do Hannity first. He'll have two guests. One that agrees with his viewpoint and very articulate. The other of course, not nearly as conversant with the subject.

Hannity will ask his first guess a Ben, question about the subject, and remark glowingly about what a great answer that is and he's a great American and a patriot.

On to the second peson. It'll go something like, "So Jay, your here to argue that it's past time that we leagalize the evil pot weed. Do you mind telling us why? "

"Sure Sean, and first I'd like to thank you for asking me to be on your show.

I'd like to first mention the medical aspects of.....(Interrupted loudly by the first guess)

"There you go again. You damn hippy subservaints alwasy trying to bring in the medical aspect of marijuina. There is none. It's just a reason for you to be alble to get high, lay on the couch everyday and eat bon bons."

Sean breaks in. "Ben's right you know. I've never met a pot smoker who every amounted to anything. After that first hit, they are forever socialist, or communists".

John starts to reply, "There is some information that even Bush may have smoked pot, is he a communist?"

Hannity..."Throw him off the show!"


By contrast with NPR, if you're conservative, nope you're not going to like their format at all for the simple reason that neither side is allowed to bully the other.

Not always but for the most part, the person doing the interview stays neutral and asks SERIOUS questions.

Both guests are intelligent and well versed in putting forth their reason for supporting their topics. Half the time, I come out of it on the fence on that specific subject.

Or their reporting of some crisis in a different land. You get to hear the perspective of people who actually live there.

Then there are the interviews with musicians and writers. Excellent.

So yes, I love listening to NPR.

I also watch the News hour on PBS as well as Frontline. While not nearly as comical as watching Fox and Friends or other Fox news shows, I do come away from both those others shows, with some semblance of thinking I got a fairly accurate representation of what the news is for the day.

[JawZ]

Another issue UOD seems to favor is socialism.

I think you got it ALL wrong.

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... ostcount=2

The religious right's zealotry seems to have a strong hold on you.

I'm just curious, what makes you think that you are a conservative? I asked the question in that thread and barely anyone but myself could define what it means to them.

What is laughable, is that you probably don't even have an ideology, or values of any kind that could be categorized as being conservative.

All I see is hate. Calling Obama "Hitler" is hateful. So I see a value of hate.

I don't see you proposing any solutions...all we see is you spewing hate. Do you actually have any ideas of your own or do you just follow whatever the hate mongers tell you to hate?


I see you as being "sheep". You started this thread with hate speech, calling Obama the next Hitler and now you've done a 180 and say that you like the man because of reasons, x, y, and z.

I like Obama because he is not a career politician sitting in the same public office making money, further corrupting our political system and preventing any fresh ideas from taking effect.

But yet he's our next Hitler. So did you like Hitler as well?


so which story are you going with here? Make up your mind.

[jasonb31]

If you do some serious research you will see that Obama is the foretold Anti-Christ. He fits that prophecy more than anyone in history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oh4gL51U4

The anti-Christ is of Muslim (DECENT) Obama is.
He will run for the most powerful position in the world (The U.S. president is the most powerful)
He will preach peace and unity. (He does on a daily basis)
He will seduce many with his blasphemies. (Rock star wannabee)

The birth of the Antichrist is described by the Fathers as being from an unclean woman of the tribe of Dan. This is the teaching of St. Irenaeus of Lyons , St. Hippolytus of Rome , St. Hilary of Poitiers, St. Ambrose of Milan and Blessed Jerome in the West, and of St. Narses of Armenia , St. John Chrysostom , Blessed Theodoretus of Cyr and St. John of Damascus in the East. In the Synaxarion for Meatfare Sunday, the Sunday of the Last Judgement, we read: “The Antichrist will come and be born, as St. Hippolytus of Rome says, of a polluted woman, a supposed virgin, a Jewess of the tribe of Dan”.

http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/a ... ntichrist/

Barrak is a Jewish name while Obama is Muslim. He has brainwashed many and yet he has not done anything good but talk. Hitler did the same thing very well.

Obama will use this new security force to take our guns and impose his will on us. If you think I'm wrong you just wait because you know someone is going to shoot him. If he is shot in the head and then recovers he will proclaim himself god as he has already joked about. Thats when Satan posses his soul. All we can do now is pray for Obamas soul and prepare for the worst.

Here is more solid proof that God exist and made the earth for you non believers.
http://www.halos.com/

This is backed by the Scientific community but they will never admit it was Gods doing. All Granite rock was made instantly, It was not formed by a natural earth process.

[JawZ]

If you do some serious research you will see that Obama is the foretold Anti-Christ. He fits that prophecy more than anyone in history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oh4gL51U4

The anti-Christ is of Muslim (DECENT) Obama is.
He will run for the most powerful position in the world (The U.S. president is the most powerful)
He will preach peace and unity. (He does on a daily basis)
He will seduce many with his blasphemies. (Rock star wannabee)

The birth of the Antichrist is described by the Fathers as being from an unclean woman of the tribe of Dan. This is the teaching of St. Irenaeus of Lyons , St. Hippolytus of Rome , St. Hilary of Poitiers, St. Ambrose of Milan and Blessed Jerome in the West, and of St. Narses of Armenia , St. John Chrysostom , Blessed Theodoretus of Cyr and St. John of Damascus in the East. In the Synaxarion for Meatfare Sunday, the Sunday of the Last Judgement, we read: “The Antichrist will come and be born, as St. Hippolytus of Rome says, of a polluted woman, a supposed virgin, a Jewess of the tribe of Dan”.

http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/a ... ntichrist/

Barrak is a Jewish name while Obama is Muslim. He has brainwashed many and yet he has not done anything good but talk. Hitler did the same thing very well.

Obama will use this new security force to take our guns and impose his will on us. If you think I'm wrong you just wait because you know someone is going to shoot him. If he is shot in the head and then recovers he will proclaim himself god as he has already joked about. Thats when Satan posses his soul. All we can do now is pray for Obamas soul and prepare for the worst.

Here is more solid proof that God exist and made the earth for you non believers.
http://www.halos.com/

This is backed by the Scientific community but they will never admit it was Gods doing. All Granite rock was made instantly, It was not formed by a natural earth process.

Sorry, already been debunked lolol.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

Nice try. Come back again when you have the REAL antichrist....which btw, is Barney.



Barney the Dinosaur Because John, the writer of Revelation, would never have known what a dinosaur looked like, it's logical to assume he would have identified any vision of Barney as one of a dragon. Taking this into consideration, you might find the following Scriptures quite revealing: Revelation 12:3, "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon."
Revelation 13:4, "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"
Revelation 20:2, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years."

[downhill]

The anti-christ eh?

Is all that's left for the fundamentalist/far right of the Republican party to do to gain favor again is to keep spreading fear and loathing?

The RNC needs to find it's way back to the middle.

[jasonb31]

Sorry, already been debunked lolol.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

."

Well im sorry but snopes don't know anything.

He will twist all religion into a religion of man where we are the gods. The environmental movement has a big influence.
He is described as the King of the North (America)
He will rise from the sea. He will be from a new nation that starts small after it is seemed to rise from the sea. (America)
He will start a new one world government and currency with the EU as its base. The EU is demanding it of Bush right now.
The little horn in the bible is allies with countries that make up the ten horns. The ten horns are the nations that encompassed the old Roman Empire plus one. (America). Israel is at its center and that's where he will set up his temple.

He will have the strongest army and wage war against many; China and Russia are regional super powers. They can not project their military like the U.S. The anti-Christ would have to have our military to win wars and be so powerful.

Obama is a mix of everything, Satan's perfect example of man and his false religion. He is wealthy while his relatives live in the ghettos or back in Kenya.

Laugh all you want but be warned. Our government will go to great lengths to hide who he really is and they already have. Remember the movie Omen? Seems fitting now doesn't it. Where do you think they got the story line from? They sure as hell did not get it from snopes.

Research Obama real good and then prophecy of the Anti-Christ. You will see they fit.

[Roody]

He will also be someone we don't suspect jason so that right there debunks your theory.

[downhill]

Yeah someone like Dan Rather.

*snickers*

[RoundEye]

Hitler? Antichrist?

Ya know, some people think with their heads, some think with their hearts. And then there’s a few heartless idiots that don’t use either. They have somehow followed the breadcrumbs back to here.

[R0cke113]

I think you got it ALL wrong.

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... ostcount=2

The religious right's zealotry seems to have a strong hold on you.

I'm just curious, what makes you think that you are a conservative? I asked the question in that thread and barely anyone but myself could define what it means to them.

What is laughable, is that you probably don't even have an ideology, or values of any kind that could be categorized as being conservative.

All I see is hate. Calling Obama "Hitler" is hateful. So I see a value of hate.

I don't see you proposing any solutions...all we see is you spewing hate. Do you actually have any ideas of your own or do you just follow whatever the hate mongers tell you to hate?


I see you as being "sheep". You started this thread with hate speech, calling Obama the next Hitler and now you've done a 180 and say that you like the man because of reasons, x, y, and z.




But yet he's our next Hitler. So did you like Hitler as well?


so which story are you going with here? Make up your mind.

I leave my religion at the door thanks! This is not my place for a religious discussion.

I don't claim to be conservative. I have views on both sides. Some very far to both sides. To dedicate my thought to only one viewpoint would be nothing, but a disservice to myself. I know how to analyze both sides from numerous different viewpoints from my life experience. That allows me to hold views seated firmly on both sides of the American political spectrum.

What I find laughable is how brainwashed you have become or possibly just how narrow your life experience is that you can only see any issue from your own viewpoint. You are deadlocked on agreeing with anything positively looked at by the liberals that you won't allow yourself to do anything, but agree with what they say. So just quiet down those remarks lower your font size and continue re-writing the lines you get form YOUR party.

You still have not caught on to my reasoning for such a controversial title. It bares some resemblance and holds much emotion for everyone.

I post my own ideas regularly. Right now I'm analyzing and getting others viewpoints.

To end this mostly unneeded reply regarding my being a sheep. Don't take my broadened mental horizon as being so flippant, just capable of seeing more circumstances of an issue.

[MadDoctor]

Baaaa

[Brk]

National Youth, at some point.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=5852

[brembo]

If you do some serious research you will see that Obama is the foretold Anti-Christ. He fits that prophecy more than anyone in history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oh4gL51U4

The anti-Christ is of Muslim (DECENT) Obama is.
He will run for the most powerful position in the world (The U.S. president is the most powerful)
He will preach peace and unity. (He does on a daily basis)
He will seduce many with his blasphemies. (Rock star wannabee)

The birth of the Antichrist is described by the Fathers as being from an unclean woman of the tribe of Dan. This is the teaching of St. Irenaeus of Lyons , St. Hippolytus of Rome , St. Hilary of Poitiers, St. Ambrose of Milan and Blessed Jerome in the West, and of St. Narses of Armenia , St. John Chrysostom , Blessed Theodoretus of Cyr and St. John of Damascus in the East. In the Synaxarion for Meatfare Sunday, the Sunday of the Last Judgement, we read: “The Antichrist will come and be born, as St. Hippolytus of Rome says, of a polluted woman, a supposed virgin, a Jewess of the tribe of Dan”.

http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/a ... ntichrist/

Barrak is a Jewish name while Obama is Muslim. He has brainwashed many and yet he has not done anything good but talk. Hitler did the same thing very well.

Obama will use this new security force to take our guns and impose his will on us. If you think I'm wrong you just wait because you know someone is going to shoot him. If he is shot in the head and then recovers he will proclaim himself god as he has already joked about. Thats when Satan posses his soul. All we can do now is pray for Obamas soul and prepare for the worst.

Here is more solid proof that God exist and made the earth for you non believers.
http://www.halos.com/

This is backed by the Scientific community but they will never admit it was Gods doing. All Granite rock was made instantly, It was not formed by a natural earth process.

If you read this post three times while looking in a mirror, yakkity-sax will begin playing while circus clowns emerge from the cabinet with some Gravy Train dogfood in tow. I KNOW THIS, don't trust snopes.

[JawZ]

Don't take my broadened mental horizon as being so flippant, just capable of seeing more circumstances of an issue.

Obama our new Hitler

[MadDoctor]

If you do some serious research you will see that Obama is the foretold Anti-Christ.

There is the rub. You have not done any serious research.

[R0cke113]

National Youth, at some point.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=5852

I really like that website. Some of Obama's ideas are just that great ideas, however the implementation would be the making or breaking of the ideas. In South Korea all males are required to do 2 years in the military. For a country this small that works because there is always a never ending list of tasks requiring little to no training that need done. S. Korea also has a community service program which has young people 18-30 walking around in uniforms patrolling and picking up garbage. S. Korea is a pretty socialized capitalist country, but their community service ideas are right on. They do not require a minimum amount of time each year though.(I'm not sure if it is seperate or not from the 2 years military.) The Koreans who are in their mandatory 2 year terms are fed. clothed, and housed. They receive at the highest grade of sergeant about 45$ U.S. depending on the exchange rate that is 48,000 Won per month. Basically free labor. If we trained our citizens like that while getting our work out of them we could really get somewhere as a society.

In Finland all males are required to do at least 1 year in the military doing grunt work. Something like that would do great things for our country as a hole I believe.

Most countries require military service of all males. Why shouldn't we. I do not advocate sending anyone to war during their mandatory time, but having them do patrols and any other work in their local area or where ever they want to go and are needed would help the country and the individual out. Train everyone while getting your monies worth. It would really boost the moral welfare of our country I believe.

[R0cke113]

And UOD I wish you could figure out how to connect what I am saying because I am quite confident even through my rantings that I am being clear. The purpose of the thread title was to get some reaction while still holding some relevancy. It accomplished that. Thank you and Good Night.

[Brk]

I really like that website. Some of Obama's ideas are just that great ideas, however the implementation would be the making or breaking of the ideas. In South Korea all males are required to do 2 years in the military. For a country this small that works because there is always a never ending list of tasks requiring little to no training that need done. S. Korea also has a community service program which has young people 18-30 walking around in uniforms patrolling and picking up garbage. S. Korea is a pretty socialized capitalist country, but their community service ideas are right on. They do not require a minimum amount of time each year though.(I'm not sure if it is seperate or not from the 2 years military.) The Koreans who are in their mandatory 2 year terms are fed. clothed, and housed. They receive at the highest grade of sergeant about 45$ U.S. depending on the exchange rate that is 48,000 Won per month. Basically free labor. If we trained our citizens like that while getting our work out of them we could really get somewhere as a society.

In Finland all males are required to do at least 1 year in the military doing grunt work. Something like that would do great things for our country as a hole I believe.

Most countries require military service of all males. Why shouldn't we. I do not advocate sending anyone to war during their mandatory time, but having them do patrols and any other work in their local area or where ever they want to go and are needed would help the country and the individual out. Train everyone while getting your monies worth. It would really boost the moral welfare of our country I believe.

Sorry, but "compulsory" is unacceptable. Offer incentives to be involved, fine. But you can't force people to be conscientious citizens, no matter how well it appears to work in other countries. It's going through the motions for whatever benefit has been promised, whereas the genuine people will have already volunteered.

For someone who seems to be on the right track when it comes to the NWO, you've just made the case for a Hitler Youth-type system.

[64bit]

You sound internally conflicted Rock.

[YARDofSTUF]

It would also cost us more money in taxes to pay for the mandatory workers.

[JawZ]

I really like that website. Some of Obama's ideas are just that great ideas, however the implementation would be the making or breaking of the ideas. In South Korea all males are required to do 2 years in the military. For a country this small that works because there is always a never ending list of tasks requiring little to no training that need done. S. Korea also has a community service program which has young people 18-30 walking around in uniforms patrolling and picking up garbage. S. Korea is a pretty socialized capitalist country, but their community service ideas are right on. They do not require a minimum amount of time each year though.(I'm not sure if it is seperate or not from the 2 years military.) The Koreans who are in their mandatory 2 year terms are fed. clothed, and housed. They receive at the highest grade of sergeant about 45$ U.S. depending on the exchange rate that is 48,000 Won per month. Basically free labor. If we trained our citizens like that while getting our work out of them we could really get somewhere as a society.

In Finland all males are required to do at least 1 year in the military doing grunt work. Something like that would do great things for our country as a hole I believe.

Most countries require military service of all males. Why shouldn't we. I do not advocate sending anyone to war during their mandatory time, but having them do patrols and any other work in their local area or where ever they want to go and are needed would help the country and the individual out. Train everyone while getting your monies worth. It would really boost the moral welfare of our country I believe.

and you have the audacity to call me a socialist?

[R0cke113]

It is volunteer work it would save us tax money by taking the place of the already paid workers. Individuals could definitely get out of the volunteer stuff. We have a program at my old high school where everyone volunteered for the last week of school unless they had some other obligation then they were exempt. Nothing is required, it is pushed for all to participate, but students taking SAT's preparing for anything education related or any other required appointments. It is one way to clean up the local area including parks, streets and high traffic/ high garbage areas

[R0cke113]

These would be constructive school led programs, not mandatory federal programs.

[JawZ]

These would be constructive school led programs, not mandatory federal programs.

But of course Dr. Zawahiri. We can still call them madrasahs?

[downhill]

and you have the audacity to call me a socialist?

UOD the socialist....


*snickers*

[Gixxer]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27655039/

[MadDoctor]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27655039/

Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

.

[YARDofSTUF]

It is volunteer work it would save us tax money by taking the place of the already paid workers. Individuals could definitely get out of the volunteer stuff. We have a program at my old high school where everyone volunteered for the last week of school unless they had some other obligation then they were exempt. Nothing is required, it is pushed for all to participate, but students taking SAT's preparing for anything education related or any other required appointments. It is one way to clean up the local area including parks, streets and high traffic/ high garbage areas

So then people will have less time to spend with family as they have to do their job that pays and then this? And it will put others out of a job? Sounding worse and worse.

[MadDoctor]

Most countries require military service of all males. Why shouldn't we.

This guy would argue with you on that, as in his quote:

however we also agreed that the primary difference between American culture and European culture is the desire Americans hold to get out of working. We for some reason don't want to work at all.

Given that we don't want to work... why on earth would we agree to required military service?!?!?!?! Military service (so I've heard) is a lot of work! Count me out!!!!!!

*goes back to eating candy and watching cartoons*

[Gixxer]

.

we are going to iraq because of wmd's

......

[MadDoctor]

we are going to iraq because of wmd's

......

I keep forgetting about that one!!!!!


*looks for more candy*

[R0cke113]

Sorry I realize I was writing a bit off the deep end, but these are just ideas that would only be a basis for new programs and other ideas. This is all about sprouting new thinking.

[R0cke113]

What I really disagree with is the entire wind energy propaganda spread nation-wide.
It is great along the interstate in California, but does not make any money at all in Pennsylvania. We pay a French company to build them and keep half of them locked year round. Each individual mill does not make enough money to even pay for itself, but for the government subsidies that stem from our tax dollars.

While I do agree with making bio-fuels because it would create some more jobs, it would further raise the price of food in the supermarkets and cause growth of more corn, which is a terribly inefficient ethanol producer. This is also a crucial key to changing our wasteful nations ideology. By maintaining the price gouging of the FTC we force Americans to think before they waste. Although some needed economic assistance is needed and the Saudi's could help that just isn't going to happen.

While I can not see down the rabbit hole I see this administration as making another terrible blunder while not getting any more fuel from the Saudi's we did give them some high tech weapons systems.

I was just reading the news today and saw an article discussing the hatred the past 2 administrations have seen and the lack of action that has caused. While I stand by George W. Bush in his good intentions he and Clinton both tried to do some things favored by the opposing sides, like welfare reform and prescription drug reform. Such legislation the opposing sides would normally be in full support of, but it never happened. The hatred fueled too much opposition, which hurt the American citizen more than any politician or the president. I write to my congressmen regularly displaying my stance on subjects. Hopefully this administration does not face that blatant hatred and the garbage the past 2 admin's have received. If it's a good thing it should be passed.