I bought an Asus CUSL2 mobo with a PIII 800 EB processor. Here is everything that I have on my machine; GeForce 256 DDR AGP, 3Com NIC, SB Live! X-Gamer, CL 5x DVD ROM, HP CD Burner, WD 15.3Gig 7400 RPM HDD (ATA-66) (set as master), IBM 10.2Gig 5400 RPM HDD (set as slave), 256 megs of PC100 memory.
Here is my problem; I am horrible at explaining things so her goes nothing.
I have everything connected correctly to the mobo, now my PC will not boot up. I have my two HDD's hooked up to my primary bus, and my DVD and CD burner hooked up to my secondary bus... and of course the floppy drive hooked up to the floppy bus.
When I power the machine on, the floppy light stays lit as does the HDD light, and will not boot up at all, it just hangs there. Also the DVD and burner lights do not blink at me.
If I power on the machine with the DVD and CD burner NOT on the secondary bus (I completely disconnected the ribbon cable from the secondary bus) then the machine boots a bit further; I can hear the HDDs spin, the DVD and burner lights blink... but the floppy light still stays lit and it will not boot at all.
I have tried to swap the primary and secondary buses (but kept the 2 HDDs on the same cable and kept the DVD and burner on the same cable), put the primary on the secondary with nothing on the primary, swapped out 4 new ribbon cables on both secondary and primary buses, new ribbon cable on the floppy... and it is still doing the same thing, not booting.
Sorry that this is a bit long, I am sure I have missed a detail or 12, any ideas? Any help is appreciated, thanks.
J
PC with new mother board is not powering up...
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Battleship
Just put the basic components in first to get them working. Meaning 1 HD, Video, floppy.
If it boots put the rest in of the stuff in 1 at a time. Trying to boot up after each component. With the second hard drive and second CD being the last things to put in.
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A:\ >format c:
WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with format (Y/N)?y
If it boots put the rest in of the stuff in 1 at a time. Trying to boot up after each component. With the second hard drive and second CD being the last things to put in.
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A:\ >format c:
WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with format (Y/N)?y
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smaier69
first, i would follow battleship's suggestion first. setting up the box in its simplest working form makes troubleshooting a whole lot easier.
you may also wanna try doublechecking that the floppy and/or hdd ribbons are in correctly (if they are not keyed, they could be in backwards. remember, the red stripe on the ribbons are for pin #1). also, if you have a way to test your system RAM (like if you have 2 128MB dimms instead of one 256MB stick), i would try using one at a time, in case there is a bad memory module. also, if the RAM is mismatched (lets say one is cas=2, and another is cas=3), you mobo may want the faster of the two in dimm1, and the slower one in dimm2. the last bx440 (was an IWILL BD-100 plus) system i worked on was like that.
it really sounds like its not making it successfully through POST, and in my experience, it had usually been something like that. i dont know if on that mobo, the dimm slots are order-specific (meaning you have to put one ram stick in the dimm1 slot, and if you have more, they go in dimm2, then dimm3, etc.,), or not. with my current MSI mobo, it doesn't matter, but on some intel systems i have built up in the past, it did.
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
you may also wanna try doublechecking that the floppy and/or hdd ribbons are in correctly (if they are not keyed, they could be in backwards. remember, the red stripe on the ribbons are for pin #1). also, if you have a way to test your system RAM (like if you have 2 128MB dimms instead of one 256MB stick), i would try using one at a time, in case there is a bad memory module. also, if the RAM is mismatched (lets say one is cas=2, and another is cas=3), you mobo may want the faster of the two in dimm1, and the slower one in dimm2. the last bx440 (was an IWILL BD-100 plus) system i worked on was like that.
it really sounds like its not making it successfully through POST, and in my experience, it had usually been something like that. i dont know if on that mobo, the dimm slots are order-specific (meaning you have to put one ram stick in the dimm1 slot, and if you have more, they go in dimm2, then dimm3, etc.,), or not. with my current MSI mobo, it doesn't matter, but on some intel systems i have built up in the past, it did.
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
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smaier69
oh, sorry. just remembered something else. even though floppy drives typically outlive the computer they were put in, they can still on occasion crap out on you. if possible, i would go into the BIOS, and switch the bootup order from floppy/cd-rom/ide-0, to just cd-rom/ide-0, or ide-0/cd-rom or something. also, i would disable "bootup floppy seek". that way, if you do have a bad floppy drive, you can make it past that, and into the bootup process.
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
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RoundEye
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Prey521
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Michfan
also, just to make sure nothing is shorting, take the motherboard out of the case, and put it the wraping it came in, plug in just a keyboard, one hard drive, the video adapter and the power supply and see if it boots.
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"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist"-Verbal Kint
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"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist"-Verbal Kint
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Sid
I do this every day so here's my suggestion! Remove all the ribbon cables and cards including the video card and power the system on. You should get a beep code of no video, if you get that code then put the video card in and pull the memory out. If you get a memory beep code then put it back in and see if it will make it past post. If it don't or you get no beep codes with either the video card or the memory out then I would be looking at the mother board real hard. If the system makes it past post then start hooking the drives up one at a time till ya find the problem.
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smaier69
Sid
i do this sort of stuff on a regular basis as well, but i have never actually tried to interpret the beep code(s). is this something that would be listed in the mobo's manual (how to interpret the codes)? or is there a standard thats been adopted by the industry? the reason i ask, is i have adopted my own troubleshooting ritual (mentioned above) when presented with this scenario, but it never dawned on me that maybe the sequential beeps were a code (not that i think about it, it makes total sense).
also, is there a link you know of that would cover this, if it is a standard code?
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
i do this sort of stuff on a regular basis as well, but i have never actually tried to interpret the beep code(s). is this something that would be listed in the mobo's manual (how to interpret the codes)? or is there a standard thats been adopted by the industry? the reason i ask, is i have adopted my own troubleshooting ritual (mentioned above) when presented with this scenario, but it never dawned on me that maybe the sequential beeps were a code (not that i think about it, it makes total sense).
also, is there a link you know of that would cover this, if it is a standard code?
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
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Battleship
Smaier:
Yes, I believe there was supposed to be an industry standard but I dont think it never really caught on. For the most part beep codes vary by bios manufacturer. I dont worry bout beep codes unless there is something I really cant figure out. Most probs can be spotted by inspection and experience unless there is something wrong with the mobo.
Kinda like those stupid P.O.S.T cards that never really caught on. Anyone use one of these ever? Its an expansion card that plugs into an isa slot and gives a 2 digit error code if something is wrong. Take the 2 digits and interpret them in the manual to find out what specifically is wrong.
Heres a link for some beep codes, again it varies by bios manufacturer: http://pcmech.pair.com/beeps.htm
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A:\ >format c:
WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with format (Y/N)?y
[This message has been edited by Battleship (edited 10-19-2000).]
Yes, I believe there was supposed to be an industry standard but I dont think it never really caught on. For the most part beep codes vary by bios manufacturer. I dont worry bout beep codes unless there is something I really cant figure out. Most probs can be spotted by inspection and experience unless there is something wrong with the mobo.
Kinda like those stupid P.O.S.T cards that never really caught on. Anyone use one of these ever? Its an expansion card that plugs into an isa slot and gives a 2 digit error code if something is wrong. Take the 2 digits and interpret them in the manual to find out what specifically is wrong.
Heres a link for some beep codes, again it varies by bios manufacturer: http://pcmech.pair.com/beeps.htm
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A:\ >format c:
WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with format (Y/N)?y
[This message has been edited by Battleship (edited 10-19-2000).]
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smaier69
very much appreciated, battleship.
thats kinda what i thought. i have exercised my method too many times to be easily changed (LOL), but its just one of those things that, as you stated, could come in handy if all other methods to isolate the issue are exhausted.
i will bookmark the site, and keep this in mind the next time i run into something of this nature.
thank you for helpin' me out, there!
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
thats kinda what i thought. i have exercised my method too many times to be easily changed (LOL), but its just one of those things that, as you stated, could come in handy if all other methods to isolate the issue are exhausted.
i will bookmark the site, and keep this in mind the next time i run into something of this nature.
thank you for helpin' me out, there!
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
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Justin
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Amro
Hey, i didn't read what everyone else suggested so i'm sorry if i say somethin you've already tried, here are the things that i've had problems with in the past:
memory--make sure the dimms are ALL the way in..and good ones and workin -- just cause they work in one comp doesn't mean they work in all .. make sure it's not some cheap crap..
video card--use an old isa card w/ nothin else hooked up to see if u get a beep and monitor signal, if so, then the mobo's good
reset switch--once on a case of mine the reset switch got stuck and i couldn't get it out--i ended up unpluggin the reset switch cable from the prongs on the mobo and it solved my problem (runnin that case now)
trouble shooting--put in just the video card..then get it to book just w/ the card and the hdd.. then add the floppy, then cdrom, then other hdd then dvd.. then one by one any other cards (nic, ata66 controller cards--whatever)...
cables--check all drive cables for snags etc...i had a boot problem once..
pc internal speaker--get it up FIRST, then go to the manufactureer of ur bios's website .. they'll have beep codes.. .. if u get one beep short--then ur bootin ok.. u can disable it again afterwards, these are just some ideas.. it maybe something as pushing in the ram more.. i'd check that first.
later,
Amro
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"If a man could have half his wishes, he would double his troubles."
-Benjamin Franklin
memory--make sure the dimms are ALL the way in..and good ones and workin -- just cause they work in one comp doesn't mean they work in all .. make sure it's not some cheap crap..
video card--use an old isa card w/ nothin else hooked up to see if u get a beep and monitor signal, if so, then the mobo's good
reset switch--once on a case of mine the reset switch got stuck and i couldn't get it out--i ended up unpluggin the reset switch cable from the prongs on the mobo and it solved my problem (runnin that case now)
trouble shooting--put in just the video card..then get it to book just w/ the card and the hdd.. then add the floppy, then cdrom, then other hdd then dvd.. then one by one any other cards (nic, ata66 controller cards--whatever)...
cables--check all drive cables for snags etc...i had a boot problem once..
pc internal speaker--get it up FIRST, then go to the manufactureer of ur bios's website .. they'll have beep codes.. .. if u get one beep short--then ur bootin ok.. u can disable it again afterwards, these are just some ideas.. it maybe something as pushing in the ram more.. i'd check that first.
later,
Amro
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"If a man could have half his wishes, he would double his troubles."
-Benjamin Franklin
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Sid
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Justin
Well get ready to flame
After messing with this thing for a few days now, I finally found out what was wrong with the thing.
I read the manual and it stated that the minimum requirements for power was 200w and 250w for a fully configured machine. I saw that I had a 200w power supply, and went to go buy a new case with a 300w power supply, thinking that the new mobo was not getting enough power.
Well I pulled out all of my HDDs, DVD and CD burner. Then I pulled out my mobo, and what did I see? I noticed that my processor was NOT all the way in. *gets ready for the laugher*
I moved everything over to the new case, and it now powers up with no problems at all. I am actually suprised that I did not bend the pins on the processor. *wipes forehead*
Well I am writing this from my partially new PC, mobo and all, and this thing is smoking
Thank you everyone for your responses, take it easy!
J
After messing with this thing for a few days now, I finally found out what was wrong with the thing.
I read the manual and it stated that the minimum requirements for power was 200w and 250w for a fully configured machine. I saw that I had a 200w power supply, and went to go buy a new case with a 300w power supply, thinking that the new mobo was not getting enough power.
Well I pulled out all of my HDDs, DVD and CD burner. Then I pulled out my mobo, and what did I see? I noticed that my processor was NOT all the way in. *gets ready for the laugher*
I moved everything over to the new case, and it now powers up with no problems at all. I am actually suprised that I did not bend the pins on the processor. *wipes forehead*
Well I am writing this from my partially new PC, mobo and all, and this thing is smoking
Thank you everyone for your responses, take it easy!
J
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Sid
Damn we should have told you that new type of MoBo's are allways powered up! Even when there off. The CPU's turn them on. I guess we should have told you to reseat the CPU. I figured that it was in all the way. Try this...just to prove a point! Pull the 6 wire connector of the mobo and tell the power supply fan don't run?
Sorry, we all should have gotten that one!
Sorry, we all should have gotten that one!
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smaier69
lol.... i think its happened at least once to anybody who has built more than one machine....... forgetting to reconnect the hdd........ forgetting to throw master/slave jumpers...... forgetting to partition/reset partitions before i format....... and so on, and so forth.
sometimes, its the simple things that will drive you crazy
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
[This message has been edited by smaier69 (edited 10-21-2000).]
sometimes, its the simple things that will drive you crazy
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"Those who fail to recognize the past are condemned to relive it"
-Jim Jones
[This message has been edited by smaier69 (edited 10-21-2000).]