3D mark test on Radeon

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3D mark test on Radeon

Post by ssjDoh »

I got the 64DDR one @ default clock speed
I ran it at 1024x768x32.
This is with TnL on
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and you can compare by clicking here. I hope I published it right! EDIT: I fixed this link so it will compare proporly now.

I'll do it off[TnL] later...err..now

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Post by ssjDoh »

Ok ,here withou T&L (1024x768x32)
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Hmmm, 1GHz is faster...

nect up the default one
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Post by JANDOENT »

Lookin good, Doh!
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Post by ssjDoh »

And now the default benchmark (1024*768*16 and T&L on)
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Post by Tigerhawk »

Well, if it weren't for you and your 1 ghz computer, I think we'd be dead neck even... I get about 2745 3dmarks 1024x768 32bit color and all that good stuff. I have a GeForce 2 MX and i'm quite pleased with it.

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Post by smaier69 »

pretty sweet, ssjDoh. with DX8 (as i am sure you know, the Radeon is optimized for DX8) and more refined drivers, things will only get better. its a young product, and should mature nicely.

i get 3059 at default, and 2365 at 32bit (didnt feel like uploading ss's right now).

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yay!

I'm in 'performance mode' but using via's standard AGP driver..I have my ram at 133 CAS 3-2-3...I'm scared to get a 3-2-2, cause I get BSOD with it :)
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Post by Brent »

hrmm, that's not as high as I expected....

I get 3585 at 1024x768x32 on my Voodoo5 5500 AGP

You have the latest 4in1 drivers from VIA?

Here's my results:

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yeah, but I can't use Turbo mode. This gives me BSOD. My results are on par with PC gamers and the same system. They beat my by 70 points.

Try this:
From www.rage3d.com
"My bud Gldm at Ace's Hardware has gotten himself onto the main page. It's about poly intensive apps and the usefulness of Hyper-Z. I'm going to rip the whole post cause it's interesting but you can continue the discussion here

I've been having other people run my ultra.cfg ultimate Q3 quality settings. Basically designed to test "next generation" game loads with up to 10x the poly count and 4x the texture load.
Interesting stuff is this (all results in 640x480x32, demo1):

My Athlon 700 with Geforce DDR: 27.4
An Athlon 700 with V5 5500: 25.2
Athlon 1.1 with V5 6k: 38.2
Athlon 1.1 with GF2 Ultra: 40.3
Athlon 700 with Radeon 64DDR: 77.2

You know what I've figured out? When poly count starts going up, z-buffer becomes a serious bottleneck because there's many more polys and they all need Z-tests. ATI's Hyper-Z may have MUCH bigger implications than its getting credit for when the T&L accelerated games come out.

Test file used (copy and paste to a cfg file, exec from console. Overrides all settings but resolution):

set r_primitives "0"
set r_facePlaneCull "1"
set r_swapInterval "0"
set r_textureMode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
set r_finish "0"
set r_dlightBacks "1"
set r_dynamiclight "1"
set r_drawSun "0"
set r_fastsky "0"
set r_ignoreGLErrors "1"
set r_flares "1"
set r_lodbias "-32767"
set r_lodCurveError "32767"
set r_ignoreFastPath "1"
set r_subdivisions "1"
set r_vertexLight "0"
set r_simpleMipMaps "0"
set r_depthbits "24"
set r_stencilbits "8"
set r_colorbits "32"
set r_texturebits "32"
set r_detailtextures "1"
set r_roundImagesDown "0"
set r_picmip "0"
set r_ext_texture_env_add "1"
set r_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
set r_ext_multitexture "1"
set r_ext_compress_textures "0"
set r_allowExtensions "1"
set cg_shadows "2"
set cg_drawFPS "1"
set cg_simpleItems "0"
set cg_lagometer "1"
set cm_playerCurveClip "1"


You might want to give this a try to confirm results. Nvidia's NV15 level in their demo sectoin should prove interesting too. The radeon got 18.7 on it, I get about 7.3 both with my cfg. Note this level peaks at over 125,000 polys with these settings. Demo1 only gets to around 20,000-25,000. (normally 3000-6000 on High Quality)"
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Post by Brent »

Oh also one important things

MAKE sure you have the LATEST drivers from ATI's page for the Radeon, they improve speed and all.....

Here's a direct link: http://www.ati.com/na/pages/spdrivers/98ME-714-0831.exe
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Post by ssjDoh »

whoa, are those Win Me drivers???

I just d/l drivers from their site today and the file I have doen't match that file name.
I have: wme_w98_radeon_4_12_3056.exe
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Post by Brent »

these are the absolute latest ones

yes they are Beta, but having a Video Card like this get use to running Beta Drivers all the time for the best performance and bug fixes....

Trust me, get these drivers.....
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Post by ssjDoh »

well, the ATI server is VERY slow right now and I cannot d/l it yet...

but I got AGP4x on turbo mode and did it ever speed things up!
Default bench (1024x768x16)
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to compare with yours, click here

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Post by ssjDoh »

well, I just installed the BETA drivers and my score went down a bit to 5165. Oh well, still gonna use them though....

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"down" to 5665?

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oops, typo!!

hehe, I didn't think anyone would see that!

hhe, Jesse pionted it out to me :)

lol...or was it 5665......no it was 5165
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hehe, everytime Doh makes a mistake i point it out like a school teacher. One Day Doh WIll have proper grammar =).

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Post by Brent »

ssjDoh those scores on that machine are from my Server PC when i benched it, it's running a Rage Fury (rage 128) on a P3 500 oc'd to 560 with 256MB of ram

On my Main system I have a P3 600E @ 800EB with a Voodoo5 5500 64MB AGP w/ 128mb of RAM

I'll run a test on this machine now so you can compare them with this Machine and not my Server PC which is of course slower...
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Originally posted by jesse23:
hehe, everytime Doh makes a mistake i point it out like a school teacher. One Day Doh WIll have proper Grammar =_
First of all hehe should have a capitol 'H'. Sentances start with capitols. When you use 'i', it should be capitalized. Again, "one Day", should be 'One day,' and "WILL"??? It should be 'will'. Grammer does not need the capitol 'G' because it's not at the beginning of the sentance.
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What is Doh talken about. *wink* edit *wink*.
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Post by ssjDoh »

LOL Jesse.

and Brent, my settings in my device proporties are at high quality over performance. The highes Radeon score I've seen is ~5500.
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Post by Brent »

There we go ssjDoh http://www.madonion.com/performance/orb/?publish_compare.shtml?&dprid=784359

That's my system currently, that's my V5 clocked at default 166/166

Looks like you beat me in just about everything, of course you DO have a 1Ghz Thunderbird! My P3 is at 800EB
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umm, Brent, you posted teh wrong URL. That's mine...
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Post by Brent »

Um on my end it shows both our systems Compared against each other....

here's a pic:

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Post by ssjDoh »

hehe...it may seem like a close comparision...but the Radeon's 16 bit is not that strong...wanna bump it up to 32bit and see how our cards perform?

and <g> Brent, how big is your monitor/res??

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Post by Brent »

yeah I'm gonna go run a 1024x768x32 right now and lets compare that

THEN we can do 1600x1200x32! if your monitor is up to it ;) Mine can, hehe

And lets compare.....
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hehe...
Bring it!

running just one test now...gotta sleep soon!!
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Post by Brent »

There my 1024x768x32 results are up....
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Damn, my initial score was higher but I'll still use this one (Hmmm, maybe the Beta drivers are slower after all...)
compare here 1024*768*32: http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?784797
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Here is a little (Big) Screenshot after I ran a few benchmarks. I am a little low on RAM and I had to fall back to 833MHz on the CPU. I had a bad stick of 64M RAM.
Why I can't maintain 840MHz is beyond me.
I'll get it back though.
This is my 700 @ 833 with 192M RAM.
As you can see, with the default benchmark of 1024 x 768 the GTS 2 64M DDR is smoking the Radeon. Now I don't know how they would stack up @ 1600 x 1200 32Bit but I'll run it and post it back here.

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Also, I think I can get over 6000 if I OC the card a lil more and tweak a bit as well.
I think this says alot for Athlons and the Nvidia GTS2.

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Post by jesse23 »

hehe u got slow fans. my fans spin anywhere from 6800-7477rpm. =)
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What type fans do you have?
What temp does your system and CPU run at?
Curious is all.......

Thanks,
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Post by ssjDoh »

Here's mine at 1600*1200*32.

Remeber, My settings are for beauty, not speed :)
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And you guys just have to see environment bump mapping. Wow!! Emboss is nothing like environment!

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Well the fan that spins from 6800-7477rpm is my triple heatsink. Right my my temp is 84 idle and 89 max load. Im getting 2 80mm fans soon though. Put out 60cfm, ones intake and ones outtake. Also waiting for my 2COOLPC total blower. Also getting case mods for my new 36cfm 80mm to blow diretly on the processor. Sometimes i see temps as low as 72F
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Post by Brent »

Ok Here's my 1600x1200x32 Results

Let me first say right off the bat you have an advantage over me, You have a 1Gig Thunderbird, i only have an 800 Coppermine, so already your CPU is faster then mine....

But here's my results anyways:

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oh also, If you want to see what Scores I get in ALL 3DMark2000 results, AND Quake3 scores and 3DWinbench Scores look at my Voodoo5 driver comparison here: http://www.coremeltdown.com/articles/3dfx/v5drivers/

It's got Q3, 3DMark2k results, that's the latest and Greatest that I have on this machine......
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Well, I just changed some of my settings for performance, not quality and it did speed up a bit. It's not on the fastest settings cause I don't know what some settings do when they are enabled/disabled. But at 1024*678*32 I get 4820.

Hehe, I win at 1600*1200*32 (incuding the Geforce)
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Post by Brent »

Yes you can think the Hyper-Z technology in the Radeon for winning at the high rez/color bit settings vs. a Geforce2 ;)

If you have any questions about what things do enabled/disabled just ask, I'm a guru in the Video Card market, hehe :)

At 1024x768x32 I get 3585

so your card is pretty darned good :D

that's my sweet spot too, i like to play at 1024x768x32 and I toggle between no FSAA and 2X FSAA if i want the game to REALLY look good, that's one thing i love with the V5 here is the FSAA that stuff friggin rox for visual quality....
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OK, well here's the options that I can choose from:

OpenGL: Image

Direct3D: Image
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Post by ssjDoh »

Brent, I just read your review on the drivers. The reason you see that BIG increase in high resolutions is because the V5 is now using BOTH CPU's. On the old driver, only one CPU is on use when on high res.

and can you tell me what settings I should use for BEST quality and anohter set ofr BEST performance?

TIA
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