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Hello Fellow SG'ers!

I am in need of assistance regarding evidence in a court case. If their is any Attorney's or Lawyer's present please reply here or private message myself. It would be a great deal of help and GREATLY appreciated.

All the attorney's I have spoken with are to no help in retrieving evidence prior to a plea. After the plea they can retrieve the evidence and when asked if somehow I can retrieve this prior to the plea I was advised from several different attorneys "not to my knowledge" which leads me to believe that their is possibly a way... they just rather get paid prior to actually providing me with this knowledge and have my plea "locked in" so they WILL get the money regardless of what the evidence states.

The evidence I am mainly worried about is the dashboard camera on the squad car and if it has audio which will make my case, if no audio then it is my word against the towns crooked cops/judges.

Blah, I hate when I do not have an answer :confused: lol

Anyways, thanks for the ear SG'ers and if any of you or your friends are attorneys please reply or pm :rockin:

Thanks a million and enjoy your day! Maybe night or morning for some of you :cool:

Cheers,

Anthony
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its called a motion of discovery you have the right to any and all evidence againt you b4 you go to trail/court


"As soon as you are charged, your attorney has the ability to file a pretrial Motion for Discovery that requires the State to provide you (your attorney) with all evidence that the State has and plans to use against you as well as the names of each person they intend to call as witnesses against you. Assure that the Motion for Discovery is filed at the first possible moment.

It is vital to know everything possible about the charges against you, who made them and why, exactly who will testify against you and what will they say"
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horsemen_ wrote:its called a motion of discovery you have the right to any and all evidence againt you b4 you go to trail/court


"As soon as you are charged, your attorney has the ability to file a pretrial Motion for Discovery that requires the State to provide you (your attorney) with all evidence that the State has and plans to use against you as well as the names of each person they intend to call as witnesses against you. Assure that the Motion for Discovery is filed at the first possible moment.

It is vital to know everything possible about the charges against you, who made them and why, exactly who will testify against you and what will they say"
First things first... Thanks for the reply Horsemen. I concur with what you have quoted Horsemen. My ordeal is the rebuttal part. If I know what evidence is standing against me PRIOR to my plea day then I can decide if the money will be worth it or not. If the evidence, camera specifically has no audio or even poor quality audio, then I definitely want a lawyer. If the camera has everything, great audio and video (because it also matters WHERE the specific squad car had the camera line of sight towards, more so to the driver side or the whole vehicle itself simply because the guy had me on my rear passenger side) then I do not need to pay 10,000$+ for a great lawyer who can talk and manipulate the officer to prove he is lying, or in other words, no hgard evidence due to the arresting officers statements becoming different each time... that is what I would HAVE to rely on if this dashboard camera has nothing to go on.

The lawyer's/attorney's I have spoken with thus far all state that they cannot get the evidence until AFTER my plead day (Guilty, Not Guilty, or No Contest) Once I choose Not Guilty then I may receive copy of all the evidence... which does me no good IF the video has great quality. I am just trying to save thousands of dollars on this ordeal.

The story behind it all :( warning, boring and drawn out story that is not well written, sry!) I was pulled over for speeding. Okay, it happens, mb. The officer was nice (so I thought) and let me off the speeding ticket. After advising me that I could go he asked consent on searching my vehicle. I denied due to the reason of me being late for work as is. The officer then started with dispatch to have a drug dog come. I knew it would just prolong the issue while waiting for the dog. I said screw it and let the officer search myself and my vehicle. The officer first started by searching myself at the rear passenger side of my vehicle finding nothing on myself. Backup was already on the way and right across the street with full view of what I was alleged of doing. The officer went to his trunk to get gloves and whatever else to get ready to search my car as the other unit pulled up. As the arresting officer came back and greeted the other unit he realized on my PASSENGER side of my car was a cellophane of pills, two which were a misdemeanor charge and a few others that were different color and shape with the imprints smudged or rubbed off (non-identifiable). Mind you, my passenger window does NOT work. The officer insisted that they HAD to be mine. I advised the officer that he did NOT check the surroundings of my car prior to pulling me out and searching myself. The officer again insisted that they were mine even though it was a rainy windy morning and the cellophane was dirty/debris around it while, again, the other pills in the bag could not be identified (my guest would be due to weathering). The officer stated that upon him turning his back to go to his trunk was his mistake and that's when I threw the pills... and I advised the other squad car would have no doubt seen me do this action if so were true. I am scared that upon plea day they will already have the pills checked to find out WHAT they are and if it turns into a felony charge I am ****ed if it goes the worse. Especially if it was something like ACID of MDMA (ecstasy - manslaughter, etc) or even a narcotic prescription which will be even MORE bullshit because the pills were NOT mine. Mind you that we were in a PARKING LOT of a dentist office. And I am thinking if the camera does not have strong evidence it's going to be OfficerDic|<faces word against mine... and down here the local police dept are known to lie but most of them do have the dirty drug infested judges on their back as well (my older brother who is six times older got in a LOT of trouble back when he was growing up around here. This would be the first time anything EVER happened regarding me. I get harassed multiple times a year due to that reason and I have been pulled over for nothing numerous times. I have also filed numerous complaints about this as well. ufgghgh ygd fgdg)

A female officer was put on stand and lied throughout the hearing... until the end she broke down and started crying telling the whole truth. Which is great and many cases do get thrown out when local pd is involved due to lack of proper procedure or proven by cross-examination that the officers have been lying. These officers are still on the force with no punishment.

Enough boring material, back to the matter of.

Thanks for any input from anybody. Even personal experience is welcomed.

Again, thanks for the ear SG! It helps typing out my issues. Thanks for letting me vent a bit as well.

Take care everyone and wish me luck on fighting dirty judges and local pd. I suppose I can just hope for the best and not get myself worked up over this ordeal and continue performing my job to the fullest/greatest potential.
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right you have to plea not guilty first you all ways want to do that get a plublic defender look at the case then if you want to get a real lawyer
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Also see if there is video from the dentist office. A lot of places have cameras on the parking lot, maybe even a neighboring office covers the spot you were in
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You can always change your plea.
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In a case like this, you really want a lawyer defending you either way. Even if the video is there, and great quality, you still want someone who knows the law backwards and fowards defending your civil rights and innocence to the judge - especially if the judges are predisposed towards the police's word, not yours.
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Paft wrote:In a case like this, you really want a lawyer defending you either way. Even if the video is there, and great quality, you still want someone who knows the law backwards and fowards defending your civil rights and innocence to the judge - especially if the judges are predisposed towards the police's word, not yours.
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All I'll say is you can just about guarentee that the other side is gonna have a prosecutor there. You don't want to walk into that without some type representation. Good Luck, hope it turns out well for you.
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my one lawyer always used to tell me that "if you dont say Fvck in church you don't plead guilty in court". plead not guilty, goto pretrial and check out what they have.

btw, i think all cop cams have audio.
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Thanks for all the replies! Especially if the Dentist office has an outside camera as well... that would be great!

Regardless, I know I am going to plea not guilty for sure, now, and have the public defender get the evidence to see what I am looking at. If it is substantial that the video shows everything clearly I will take my chances with the pub def. If not and it looks sketchy... some money will have to be paid for an attorney-- err grr. I need to go to my federal credit union and see what kind of loan I can get. :(

I just cannot believe that the arresting officer is doing this to me. And I am sure other countries have their faults as well but damn America. I hate corrupt people.

Oh, and Downhill... what is this "you can always change your plea"? So if I plea not guilty, the evidence is looking sour for me, I can just say "Screw it, I plea guilty". Wouldn't that just piss the judge off..? ugh this whole process sucks. Stressful.

Thanks again for all the replies and heads-up.
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if its a felony you can't plead guilty

and no you plead not guilty and see what they offer you to change your plea to guilty
even on a speeding tix i plead not guilty and they will 99% of the time say if we change it to _____ and drop the fine down to ____ for a guilty plea and nor the new charge is something that don't effect your insurance rate


they will offer you something because its cheaper for them for you to plea out then to go to trail
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