Burke banned

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:11 pm

Comtrad wrote:I have tons of these

Set · Post by **Set** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:55 pm

As the world turns.......

Ill keep my options to my self but umm yea Burke has always had a nat for being banned...... Some just excel at it better then others i guess

OSULLY · Post by **OSULLY** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:58 pm

In any social medium there are rules of behavior. Whether we agree with them or not, we must pay the price for breaking those rules. I think Burke will be proud for being barred and how he deals with it will be his choice.Just my opinion.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:59 am

Izzo wrote:In spite of what you say I know there are members who receive a free pass.

And it wasn't that many years ago...that we got accused of letting Burke slip past the rules, that we got accused of "looking the other way" when he acted up because he used to contribute heavily to the SG community, both in the tech forums, and $$$ wise such as being a generous supporter of the SG game server we ran for a while.

I had been staying out of this one...but is pisses me off to see the other mods catch bullsh|t for what they went through from someone who doesn't have an inkling of a clue of what went on between him and several mods. It's a privilege to be a participating member, not a right. You can't walk into someones house and spit in their face time and time again...and not expect to get thrown back out into the street head first.

I'm sorry to see it happen too...as I felt a bit more kinship to him than the other mods..due to the support Burke gave the SG gaming community when we initially set it up, and the TeamSpeak chat nights many of us regulars had early in the early days of the TeamSpeak server. But for the past couple of years..Burke has chosen the abrasive and ornery path, thumbing his nose and flipping the bird at the staff here. And not just at one or two of them.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:47 am

Izzo wrote:agreed.... a lot of people need to wash the sand out of their vaginas

frostybear wrote:More like rocks...

no kidding. i can't inderstand why nobody likes to be insulted every chance he gets.

btw ... "you started it"?

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:57 am

Izzo wrote:So, telling him to go back and crawl under is rock is acceptable?

i hope you see the difference in the two.

you fing imbecile

go crawl under rock

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:06 am

Gixxer wrote:i hope you see the difference in the two.

you fing imbecile

go crawl under rock

If you feel there is a difference in the two perhaps you could have someone explain it to you that there is no difference ....other than the words.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:06 am

Gixxer wrote:i hope you see the difference in the two.

you fing imbecile

go crawl under rock

What's a fing?

Do you mean f'ing?

A lot of users should take those 2 phrases and put them together.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:06 am

Izzo wrote:If you feel there is a difference in the two perhaps you could have someone explain it to you that there is no difference ....other than the words.

Still waiting on that PM Izzo.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:07 am

Gixxer wrote:no kidding. i can't inderstand why nobody likes to be insulted every chance he gets.

btw ... "you started it"?

Just trying to communicate on a level which is understandable to all parties involved

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:07 am

Roody wrote:Still waiting on that PM Izzo.

Not going to get it either.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:09 am

Izzo wrote:Not going to get it either.

So basically then you were making stuff up. No offense man, but that is bigtime lame. You claim members are getting free passes, but then refuse to back it up with any proof.

Why am I not surprised at this.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:15 am

Roody wrote:So basically then you were making stuff up. No offense man, but that is bigtime lame. You claim members are getting free passes, but then refuse to back it up with any proof.

Why am I not surprised at this.

Bigtime lame, eh? Puhlease. You can deny it all you want but think about it for Christ's sake...I send you the PM giving you a name ...you deny it anyway because if you or any mod admitted it you know I'd bring it back to the forums and post it. To avoid any possible conflicts, backlash or further drama you deny and claim the rules are the same for everyone. I feel they are for 95% of us but there are a few, mods included, that get a free pass.

In truth ...there isn't anything you can provide that proves that they aren't getting one either. We done now?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:18 am

Izzo wrote:Bigtime lame, eh? Puhlease. You can deny it all you want but think about it for Christ's sake...I send you the PM giving you a name ...you deny it anyway because if you or any mod admitted it you know I'd bring it back to the forums and post it. To avoid any possible conflicts, backlash or further drama you deny and claim the rules are the same for everyone. I feel they are for 95% of us but there are a few, mods included, that get a free pass.

In truth ...there isn't anything you can provide that proves that they aren't getting one either. We done now?

Honestly man you are making excuses for not having the balls to back up your comments. By all means drop all of the staff a PM and let us know who you think is getting a pass. If it makes you feel better choose a regular member in here that you trust and include them in the PM also. That way your idea of a denial won't occur.

Send the PM or honestly stop whining because no one wants to hear it. There is nothing worse then someone crying foul and then doing nothing to fix their concerns. The idea that you are hiding behind the idea we supposedly won't look into it is just that bigtime lame. Man up or move on.

It's your call.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:21 am

I say man up and post the names in a new thread.

That would be a good thread.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:24 am

Roody wrote:Honestly man you are making excuses for not having the balls to back up your comments. By all means drop all of the staff a PM and let us know who you think is getting a pass. If it makes you feel better choose a regular member in here that you trust and include them in the PM also. That way your idea of a denial won't occur.

Send the PM or honestly stop whining because no one wants to hear it. There is nothing worse then someone crying foul and then doing nothing to fix their concerns. The idea that you are hiding behind the idea we supposedly won't look into it is just that bigtime lame. Man up or move on.

It's your call.

Right, I've never had the balls to back up any of my comments in the past. Durrr. It's an exercise in futility. I won't send the PM and I won't stop making the claim ....what are you going to do about it? I'm sorry if you have issues with this, Roody but like I said you can act the part all you want but like you claim to me there isn't anything you can do prove to me certain members aren't.

What are you going to send me to prove certain members aren't? So, keep hiding behind your claims...it's getting old very, very quickly.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:26 am

Comtrad wrote:I say man up and post the names in a new thread.

That would be a good thread.

Right.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:31 am

Izzo wrote:Right, I've never had the balls to back up any of my comments in the past. Durrr. It's an exercise in futility. I won't send the PM and I won't stop making the claim ....what are you going to do about it? I'm sorry if you have issues with this, Roody but like I said you can act the part all you want but like you claim to me there isn't anything you can do prove to me certain members aren't.

What are you going to send me to prove certain members aren't? So, keep hiding behind your claims...it's getting old very, very quickly.

Honestly man I have nothing to prove to anyone on here. You proved it all for me. You publicly cried foul and then publicly admitted you wouldn't send a PM to backup your remarks. Everyone here can now see for themselves that when it comes to this topic you are without a doubt all talk and no action.

As for what I can do it's quite simple. I can take a look at the history of the person you mention. I can see if there is any relevance to your claims and then discuss the issue with the staff and if nothing else we can keep a closer eye on that person to see if the trend continues so yes things can in fact be done. Little can be done though to fix the issue if you don't make us aware of who it is that you believe is getting a free pass.

If it's really something that is important to you enough to make a scene over you will send the PM. If you don't no promises can be made as we have no clue who you are talking about.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:32 am

This thread needs an enema.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:40 am

Roody wrote:Honestly man I have nothing to prove to anyone on here. You proved it all for me. You publicly cried foul and then publicly admitted you wouldn't send a PM to backup your remarks. Everyone here can now see for themselves that when it comes to this topic you are without a doubt all talk and no action.

As for what I can do it's quite simple. I can take a look at the history of the person you mention. I can see if there is any relevance to your claims and then discuss the issue with the staff and if nothing else we can keep a closer eye on that person to see if the trend continues so yes things can in fact be done. Little can be done though to fix the issue if you don't make us aware of who it is that you believe is getting a free pass.

If it's really something that is important to you enough to make a scene over you will send the PM. If you don't no promises can be made as we have no clue who you are talking about.

I did ..wait....what? You're going to look at trends in posts? Like analyze them for patterns of behavior n chit?. You're the one made the scene by posting what you did. PSst. There's a certain 'Brent was banned' thread ( Yes, one of many that you'll have to search for) where 2 other members make the same claim I do. Wonder where the outrage was then? Ahem....misplaced perhaps ?( see what I did there?)

edit> I realize the thread I mentioned is dated some but it goes show others feel or have felt the same as I do. Things have obviously changed for him in that case as the thread itself obviously demonstrates but....well you get the idea.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:47 am

Izzo wrote:I did ..wait....what? You're going to look at trends in posts? Like analyze them for patterns of behavior n chit?. You're the one made the scene by posting what you did. PSst. There's a certain 'Brent was banned' thread ( Yes, one of many that you'll have to search for) where 2 other members make the same claim I do. Wonder where the outrage was then? Ahem....misplaced perhaps ( see what I did there?)

Izzo you brought up the claim about members getting a free pass. The idea that you would then claim that it was me who made the scene is just misinformed thinking.

Yes, I saw the thread in question(Or along those lines) that you were looking at when I viewed who was online. I noticed it was several pages long so yes I will go take a look at it now. I also happened to notice that thread started back in 2005 when I wasn't a member of the staff here. Your implication that something wasn't going to be done by me is foolish when you consider the fact there is nothing I could have done since I wasn't a Moderator at the time anyway.

One must ask though. Is that all you got? A thread about someone that started three years ago? If so your argument is pretty flimsy. That said I will be more then happy to take a look at that thread although alot can change in 3 years. If you decide you have something else you want to provide us with then drop me a PM with the persons name and some examples.

Now I am off to take a look at that thread.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:50 am

I might add in reference to your edit Izzo that no one has supported your claim about the member in question to me. Not that I am going to argue the merits of a particular member in public, but I will be more then happy to discuss any concerns you or anyone else has in private. Everyone here knows yourself included that I take this role seriously and will address any concerns to the best of my ability.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:55 am

Izzo wrote:My take is that you do overlook others and target Burke. Unless stated otherwise I believe no PM was sent to anyone else. I realize that no one said it was acceptable which is why I asked the question....y'know that's why people ask questions. Hellooo.

I don't have to show anything but I can show you numerous examples of others trolling Burke's threads but I'll let you do your own legwork. You and your 'axis of thread trollers' You have my permission to have the final word.

to clear this up for you izzo, i got a pm/warning from DH when i said "no bearing = pointing it out like an a$$" toward burke. DH said no more name calling, but i did not call him a name. just said what he was acting like. all the same i guess.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:57 am

Roody wrote:I might add in reference to your edit Izzo that no one has supported your claim about Brent to me. Not that I am going to argue the merits of a particular member in public, but I will be more then happy to discuss any concerns you or anyone else has in private. Everyone here knows yourself included that I take this role seriously and will address any concerns to the best of my ability.

Nope, I've proved my point enough to my satisfaction. The fact you're weren't part of the staff then is irrelevant. You resurrected my comment and made an issue out of it....while DHD, Phillip, David or any other mod could have commented on it but didn't. ****...David and I exchanged PM's after the fact about it. You on the other hand were outraged to the point where you tried to make an example of me....riduculously transparent.

The thread in question and from where the claims came from clearly indicate that others have felt the same way I do. That is undeniable and to try and lessen it's credibility by questioning it's age is even more transparent than your earlier comments. Roody, your shipment of fail has arrived.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:57 am

Gixxer wrote:to clear this up for you izzo, i got a pm/warning from DH when i said "no bearing = pointing it out like an a$$" toward burke. DH said no more name calling, but i did not call him a name. just said what he was acting like. all the same i guess.

BS source!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:02 am

Izzo wrote:Nope, I've proved my point enough to my satisfaction. The fact you're weren't part of the staff then is irrelevant. You resurrected my comment and made an issue out of it....while DHD, Phillip, David or any other mod could have commented on it but didn't. ****...David and I exchanged PM's after the fact about it. You on the other hand were outraged to the point where you tried to make an example of me....riduculously transparent.

The thread in question and from where the claims came from clearly indicate that others have felt the same way I do. That is undeniable and to try and lessen it's credibility by questioning it's age is even more transparent than your earlier comments. Roody, your shipment of fail has arrived.

lol Izzo you are a piece of work. There isn't a single credible person on this site who would actually agree with you. You brought up a claim that you couldn't support. Your whole theory was based on a 3 year old claim. Even then you couldn't do the very thing that was asked of you which was drop a PM to the staff about the person in question. You go on believing what you want. You will quickly see that no one here will agree with you that I don't address a person's concerns when they contact me about them. Simply put in 100% of the cases that were PM'd to me I have found a resolution in all of them. Sometimes it wasn't the resolution that a person wanted, but it was a resolution nonetheless.

As for making an example of you all I did was ask you to privately back up your claim. You were unable to do that. It's as simple as that.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:04 am

Comtrad wrote:I'm surprised Sava and Gixxer aren't in here celebrating.

why? i like to hear burke's take on things when he discusses them civil. he has actually opened my eyes to some things. that is always overshadowed by insults EVERY chance he gets.

like i have said, talk to me how you want, i may not like it, but i can take it.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:04 am

Roody wrote:lol Izzo you are a piece of work. There isn't a single credible person on this site who would actually agree with you. You brought up a claim that you couldn't support. Your whole theory was based on a 3 year old claim. Even then you couldn't do the very thing that was asked of you which was drop a PM to the staff about the person in question. You go on believing what you want. You will quickly see that no one here will agree with you that I don't address a person's concerns when they contact me about them. Simply put in 100% of the cases that were PM'd to me I have found a resolution in all of them. Sometimes it wasn't the resolution that a person wanted, but it was a resolution nonetheless.

As for making an example of you all I did was ask you to privately back up your claim. You were unable to do that. It's as simple as that.

Denial isn't just a river in Africa I see. It'll get you nowhere. Nice to see that you claim Dan and Cypher aren't credible. You're embarrassing yourself.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:05 am

Izzo wrote:Denial isn't just a river in Africa I see. It'll get you nowhere. Nice to see that you claim Dan and Cypher aren't credible. You're embarrassing yourself.

Embarrassing myself? You apparently don't read well Izzo. As I clearly stated I have addressed every concern that people have sent to me. Dan and Cypher have not sent me a single PM about any of the matters you bring up. Try again man.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:07 am

Izzo wrote:Not going to get it either.

you cannot produce something that does not exist

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 am

Roody wrote:Embarrassing myself? You apparently don't read well Izzo. As I clearly stated I have addressed every concern that people have sent to me. Dan and Cypher have not sent me a single PM about any of the matters you bring up. Try again man.

You're killin' me.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 am

Comtrad wrote:I have tons of these

i wish i had this when i was younger...hell, i will take one now just in case.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 am

Gixxer wrote:you cannot produce something that does not exist

right...because if i don't create it ...it won't ( the pm that is)

edit> try and quote and comment on things in the proper context of things....mmmkay

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 am

Jeez - I go away for a little while and look what happens ....

My take is this: while Burke has contributed alot to SG, his condescending at best, and outright jerkish attitude at worst just got to be too much.
Maybe he figured the fact that he has contributed alot to the community gave him a free pass - I don't know.

I know I have often wondered if Burke acts the same way in real life - if he does, I'll bet his dentist bill is astronomical ...

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:14 am

Izzo wrote:You're killin' me.

Sorry that you are wrong man. Take a look at this very thread. The only one who's viewpoints are getting supported is mine. Even Gixxer knows you are reaching for stuff man. You throw out a 3 year example of which little to nothing can be done about now, and then also blatantly disregard the request for discretion.

I will spell it out clearly again. You are the only person in this thread who has claimed a person/s has gotten a free pass. I will continue to say what I have said all along and then I am finally going to move on from this public discussion. I WILL address any and all concerns that a member of these boards brings to me. That is a promise that will always be kept. The concern may or may not be addressed always how someone likes it, but I take a persons concerns very seriously. Unfortunately Izzo you chose never to give an example of a person getting a free pass which only serves to discredit your argument.

At this point though nothing new can be added. If people have a concern regarding a free pass or anything else then by all means drop me a PM. I WILL address it. This is meant for any member here.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:18 am

Roody wrote:Sorry that you are wrong man. Take a look at this very thread. The only one who's viewpoints are getting supported is mine. Even Gixxer knows you are reaching for stuff man. You throw out a 3 year example of which little to nothing can be done about now, and then also blatantly disregard the request for discretion.

I will spell it out clearly again. You are the only person in this thread who has claimed a person/s has gotten a free pass. I will continue to say what I have said all along and then I am finally going to move on from this public discussion. I WILL address any and all concerns that a member of these boards brings to me. That is a promise that will always be kept. The concern may or may not be addressed always how someone likes it, but I take a persons concerns very seriously.

At this point nothing new can be added. If people have a concern regarding a free pass or anything else then by all means drop me a PM. I WILL address it. This is meant for any member here.

You may think what you wish....and Gixxer ? buwahahahaha. You may have the final word.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:31 am

Time to lock this thread.
Stick a fork in it.. it's done.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:33 am

Izzo wrote:If you feel there is a difference in the two perhaps you could have someone explain it to you that there is no difference ....other than the words.

not only feel it, know it.

Comtrad wrote:What's a fing?

Do you mean f'ing?

A lot of users should take those 2 phrases and put them together.

yes f'ing ... don't get nitpicky

Izzo wrote:Just trying to communicate on a level which is understandable to all parties involved

you can shoot higher

Izzo wrote:BS source!

from the horses mouth (no disrespect intended DH)

Your post

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no bearing = pointing it out like an ass

What's it take to convinve that half dozen of you to stop.

Can the lot of you not express yourselves at all without resorting to name calling?

Really? No?

Keep it up and no more PM's.

It just keeps getting old and older and even older.

Good grief.

Izzo wrote:right...because if i don't create it ...it won't ( the pm that is)

edit> try and quote and comment on things in the proper context of things....mmmkay

uhhhhhhhhh, ok. try not to be so redundant. make things more easily readable. i cannot understand jibba jabba

Jamie_R wrote:Jeez - I go away for a little while and look what happens ....

My take is this: while Burke has contributed alot to SG, his condescending at best, and outright jerkish attitude at worst just got to be too much.
Maybe he figured the fact that he has contributed alot to the community gave him a free pass - I don't know.

I know I have often wondered if Burke acts the same way in real life - if he does, I'll bet his dentist bill is astronomical ...

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:36 am

Izzo wrote:You may think what you wish....and Gixxer ? buwahahahaha. You may have the final word.

izzo, you could not give me anything that i could not or would not take from you.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:38 am

Is everyone done yet?