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I have different types of x rays all copies. The different dentist etc I have
been to some have done digitals some the regular old fashion one
endo had all digitals I don't have his copies. My regular first dentist
when problem was discover is old fashion xrays. The dentist in Nebraska
said digitals don't spot this midline cyst. He supposedly saw it
on regular x ray when my dentist sent me to endo. I didn't pay much
attention to him cause here I am trusting the dentists that are seeing and
treating me.
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Could you post the digital xray?

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I have copy of last xray from periodontist. I think that is a digtal
I would have to make a copy of that and have my son post it
I don't know much about computers or I can mail you a copy.
snail mail I will ask him My natural tooth is bonded and shows root canel
with the calcium hydrite that endo keeped injecting.
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lediss wrote:I have copy of last xray from periodontist. I think that is a digtal
I would have to make a copy of that and have my son post it
I don't know much about computers or I can mail you a copy.
snail mail I will ask him My natural tooth is bonded and shows root canel
with the calcium hydrite that endo keeped injecting.
I can neither diagnose nor treat without you present in the office. I can only make suggestions.

You mentioned that the tooth had already been extracted. If so, a radiograph of it would be of little value. As I can best ascertain, you had a root canal which failed. The tooth was then removed, though a periodontist said it was ankylosed (fused to the bone). A bone graph was placed in the extraction site. The area is presently weeping a bad tasting sticky substance.

Do I have this correct so far?

From where is the substance weeping? For the top of the gum or from a whole in the front of the gum? What does in look like?

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substance clear from behind the gum not the hole. itch sticky and sometimes
burns. Yes perio had said an oral surgeon would have to remove the tooth
cause it was ankylosis. I didn't remove with oral surgeon instead cosmetic
dentist and he said it was not ankylsos. The root canel never really felt
completely healed endo had said it had 50 50 and was prolonging it. Never
felt any pain in this tooth. Yes a bone graft was put on the site. Sept 26,2007
Which perio says need a little build up but healing fine.
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The exudate is coming from the palate side of the site?

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yes, palate side.

Is exudate a fancy word for substance?
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Where is your practice David?
What state are you in?
Are you general dentist?
Hey if you can figure this out I know you will be blessed greatly.
I know.
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lediss wrote:yes, palate side.

Is exudate a fancy word for substance?
It word be the proper term for a substance that comes out (exudes) from a wound.

You do need to see an oral surgeon regarding the lesion. While it might a self limiting or an easy to treat ailment, it could be something serious. A university or teaching hospital would be your best bet for knowledge and affordability. I could direct you if you were in my region of the country. A google search might help you find such an institution in your area.

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lediss wrote:Where is your practice David?
What state are you in?
Are you general dentist?
Hey if you can figure this out I know you will be blessed greatly.
I know.
My practice is in NJ.

Sadly, I would genuinely need to see you in person to diagnose and provide proper treatment. Incomplete information could lead to disastrous results. From where I am, I can only offer suggestions.

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There is no wound or lesion David gum look fine to the eye.
Never had wound or lesion behind the gum.
Just ozzing. itch burn which happenned after extraction.

Take care
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lediss wrote:There is no wound or lesion David gum look fine to the eye.
Never had wound or lesion behind the gum.
Just ozzing. itch burn which happenned after extraction.

Take care
For how long? Any redness? It almost sounds like a localized fungal infection.

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localized fungal infection.
that is what I think it is, but no one seems to want to give
me a actual diagnosis. While endo keep putting calcium hydrite all the
way back in March 2007 I keeped telling him tooth itch. What I meant was
it itched inside gum localized were the tooth was. He didn't pay much
attention to that. After tooth extraction it has gone crazy behind upper gum
coming from same site but sort of spreading.
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no redness. Gum looks little whiter then normal.
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lediss wrote:localized fungal infection.
that is what I think it is, but no one seems to want to give
me a actual diagnosis. While endo keep putting calcium hydrite all the
way back in March 2007 I keeped telling him tooth itch. What I meant was
it itched inside gum localized were the tooth was. He didn't pay much
attention to that. After tooth extraction it has gone crazy behind upper gum
coming from same site but sort of spreading.
It could be any one of a variety of problems.

Calcium hydroxide is a strong base used to eliminate bacteria. The itch could have been from the abscess or a subclincal (unseen) root fracture. Injury to a nerve during local anesthesia can cause a prolong sensation of itching, burning or "pins and needles" * but no burning ooze. Sinus infection is a possibility if there was an oral-antral communication. If you where from Central America, it could even be mucormycosis. It could even be the healing process...

You see, it is difficult to provide a positive diagnosis. Again, please see someone local. While Lactobacillus rich yogurt held over the site might help in the case of a localized Candida albicans infection, it could do nothing but delay needed treatment.

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If it is localized fungal infection inside behind gum what do oral or dentist
do to treat it? Do they cut or give medicine? I have read steriods or antibiotics
worsen it.
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I am almost positive it is localized fungal infection, but I can't treat myself
and I have been to several locals already. Making me want to think
it is all in my head. What happens if it is what I suspect and is not
treated?
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lediss wrote:I am almost positive it is localized fungal infection, but I can't treat myself
and I have been to several locals already. Making me want to think
it is all in my head. What happens if it is what I suspect and is not
treated?
Reread the last line of my previous post.... Apple cider vinegar is another poor man's approach. However, diflucan is the recommended therapy

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David what is diflucan therapy? Explain be specific.
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David wrote:Reread the last line of my previous post.... Apple cider vinegar is another poor man's approach. However, diflucan is the recommended therapy
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Hi lediss and ouch!

This might help with the description of what David is speaking of.

http://www.drugs.com/pdr/diflucan.html
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lediss wrote:David what is diflucan therapy? Explain be specific.
http://www.drugs.com/diflucan.html

Oh geeze......I did not see your post Tynker! lololol!
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ouch !!
hope you get this resolved soon
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Haven't resolved anything yet.
I am afraid there is something going on in that gum area that is
not being addressed. I am going to a medical doctor this week.
Last time I went blood was fine. I don't know. I think root canels
are dangerous and that there has also been a mess up putting bone graft
I don't know I am not an expert, but this is fishy to me.
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lediss wrote:Haven't resolved anything yet.
I am afraid there is something going on in that gum area that is
not being addressed. I am going to a medical doctor this week.
Last time I went blood was fine. I don't know. I think root canels
are dangerous and that there has also been a mess up putting bone graft
I don't know I am not an expert, but this is fishy to me.

Still to this date June 11, 2008 has not completely fix the problem
Been to teaching school Nova.
Natureopath I visited said it was parasites and candita and have had
slight improvement but still not completely well.
x rays show nothing natureopath says microscopic
In the meantime I still itch less with naturepathic treatment and
haven't been able to put fake tooth or implant or anything
HELP has anyone else had this problem or is there something all
these doctors and orals etc are not seeing missing whatever
This is really frustrating and still can hardly eat.
Wonder how many out there has had this problem.
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still going on? dude, seek medical attention.
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Still suffering
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Been to regular dr.
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Fire your dentist and fire the doctor you saw.

Keep looking for a doctor until you find one that resolves this issue. If a doctor cannot find the source of the pain in the usual manners, he/she should look outside the box until it is resolved to your satisfaction. That's why they get the big bucks.
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try healthboards.com or a dental forum?

I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box ;).
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Randy wrote:try healthboards.com or a dental forum?
Proper diagnosis and treatment requires some level of in person care.

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David wrote:Proper diagnosis and treatment requires some level of in person care.
I agree. It's just that lediss seems to be looking for online help and i think there are better places than SG for getting help.

I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box ;).
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I have been going to all kinds of doctors even ENT No one want to
take time to look out of the box. It is easier to say it is in your head
or I can't help you or keep referring to other specialists.
Maybe it is something so simple that they can't figure out.
I don't know. Yes I go online too. Everywhere and anywhere to find
solution. Prayer too. Next week going to prosthodontics.
Natureopath has given some relief but not a lot.
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lediss wrote:I have been going to all kinds of doctors even ENT No one want to
take time to look out of the box. It is easier to say it is in your head
or I can't help you or keep referring to other specialists.
Maybe it is something so simple that they can't figure out.
I don't know. Yes I go online too. Everywhere and anywhere to find
solution. Prayer too. Next week going to prosthodontics.
Natureopath has given some relief but not a lot.
Cute mouse brushing his teeth. Kinda rough brushing ruining his enamel
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lediss wrote:Cute mouse brushing his teeth. Kinda rough brushing ruining his enamel
I love that AV. Had that AV been around when the SpeedGuide contest was in full swing, he would have won the contest with second place being no where in sight.

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David wrote:Proper diagnosis and treatment requires some level of in person care.
What David said.

David... do you know any medical people in his part of the world that would look at him as a professional favor to you? I know it's a big favor, but damn!!!!! This is not right.

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Thank you for asking Dr. David in my behave Mad Doctor. I am a she not a he.
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