Crazy Police Chase Video

Unholy · Post by **Unholy** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:46 pm

http://www.officer.com/videonetwork/index.jsp?showid=378811

The ending is

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:19 pm

"tried to ram me"

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:20 pm

the perp was obviously majorly endangering others at those speeds, he had to be taken out

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:28 pm

Brent wrote:the perp was obviously majorly endangering others at those speeds, he had to be taken out

they must have run out of stop sticks

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:37 pm

We didn't exactly see everything that happened and what they tried, nor are we that familiar with the circumstances. The cops did what they had to do, I see no fault or wrong doings here, except for the perpetrator.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:40 pm

Izzo wrote:"tried to ram me"

yeah, heh

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:40 pm

It had better be a damn good reason to use deadly force like that because clearly the guy did not try to ram the officer ...he was obviously avoiding the car so he could flee..... and fleeing alone is no reason to use deadly force like that.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:41 pm

i dont see why they didnt just tazer him...

oh yeah, ppl would freak the **** out if they did.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:44 pm

Bastid wrote:i dont see why they didnt just tazer him...

oh yeah, ppl would freak the **** out if they did.

No, people freak out about tazering people who don't deserve it.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:46 pm

Bastid wrote:i dont see why they didnt just tazer him...

oh yeah, ppl would freak the **** out if they did.

They could have pitted the guy.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:51 pm

Maybe they did try that.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:51 pm

A cop who jumps on the hood of a vehicle while still in pursuit is a ******* who wanted a reason to shoot since he couldn't stop them.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:53 pm

I disagree with that generalization.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:53 pm

Comtrad wrote:A cop who jumps on the hood of a vehicle while still in pursuit is a ******* who wanted a reason to shoot since he couldn't stop them.

Thank you.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:01 pm

Brent wrote:I disagree with that generalization.

It's not a generalization, it's an observation.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:07 pm

I think it would be interesting to see how that turned out in court. That was murder, nothing short of it.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:17 pm

Shoot 'em and get it over with I say.

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:51 pm

For one, the guy should have stopped, his driving and the ensuing police chase endangered too many innocent people.

The cops had plenty chance to spin the car out of control as the car made a u-turn and they didn’t.

I don’t think car chases should be allowed unless it’s a crime involving a violent felony. This was not such a case.

And if you look up a few more links about the story, this cop’s adrenalin filled machismo got the best of his logic.

I don’t think he should be fired, but a desk job for the rest of his career would be best.

"I'm going to take this guy out if I get a chance," an officer said, according to police broadcasts.

Source

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:23 pm

I like how in the story it says the monte collided with the cruiser when the video clearly shows the cruiser performing a move out of a demo derby to the driver side door.

Cops can be so overzealous at times.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:57 pm

Joe wrote:I like how in the story it says the monte collided with the cruiser when the video clearly shows the cruiser performing a move out of a demo derby to the driver side door. Cops can be so overzealous at times.

Ya, I'm wondering if the 'reporter' even bothered to watch the video....because what's written and what's shown are two totally different things.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:27 pm

I say nice work on that one.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:41 pm

ya,if I was a cop,I would be shooting alot !

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:33 am

Glad I ride a bicycle.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:40 am

Russell wrote:Glad I ride a bicycle.

Where do you keep the shotgun?

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:19 am

On my Big Wheel.

Loonatic · Post by **Loonatic** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:18 am

Izzo wrote:They could have pitted the guy.

You didnt watch the video. He was pitted.

Since some of you dont understand anything about Police, Ill copy and paste from Officer.com.

We have a guy that has already rammed squad cars, been rammed by squads, has already been fired on by officers but continues to target those officers with his primary weapon, the car. This guy showed an utter disregard for human life (both the officers and the general public) that culmanated in him trying to run over an officer who was attempting the "cover and command" you're advocating. Instead of allowing this yahoo to escape and thereby continue to threaten the lives of the officers and general public, this sergeant did exactly what we are trained to do- take the fight to the bad guy.

This guy had already demonstrated that he was willing to do anything, including trying to kill police officers, to escape. The cause and effect of this situation was the bad guy deciding to run from the police, deciding to attempt to kill police officers, and deciding not to surrender.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:27 am

Loonatic wrote:You didnt watch the video. He was pitted.

Since some of you dont understand anything about Police, Ill copy and paste from Officer.com.

I did watch it ........over and over again ....my recommendation would be for them to go through training again because they're driving skills obviously need work.....appears they've gone through extra gun training, though.

Loonatic · Post by **Loonatic** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:41 am

Izzo wrote:I did watch it ........over and over again ....my recommendation would be for them to go through training again because they're driving skills obviously need work.....appears they've gone through extra gun training, though.

Easy for you to sit there and criticize from your computer chair there, Keyboard Warrior. I didnt see anything wrong with any of the driving. You have no room to recommend they do anything, but being the police hater that you are I can understand why you speak this way.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:04 am

Izzo wrote:I did watch it ........over and over again ....my recommendation would be for them to go through training again because they're driving skills obviously need work.....appears they've gone through extra gun training, though.

I think they did fine. They never got a good pit off the guy, but rammed him well. Guy that was on the hood looks liek he tried to get to the drivers doora dn ended up in the way of the vehicle, so shooting the driver makes sense.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:09 am

Loonatic wrote:Easy for you to sit there and criticize from your computer chair there, Keyboard Warrior. I didnt see anything wrong with any of the driving. You have no room to recommend they do anything, but being the police hater that you are I can understand why you speak this way.

Yes, yes it is and I do have plenty of room in my office. Thanks. Still trying to become an officer?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:11 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:I think they did fine. They never got a good pit off the guy, but rammed him well. Guy that was on the hood looks liek he tried to get to the drivers doora dn ended up in the way of the vehicle, so shooting the driver makes sense.

I disagree. I've seen vids of one car taking down a box van that was fleeing....funny how several cars couldn't get it done in this case...as blebs suggested....it was murder.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:11 am

Loonatic wrote:You didnt watch the video. He was pitted.

Since some of you dont understand anything about Police, Ill copy and paste from Officer.com.

Oh that's funny, as I didn't hear any other shots fired before the cop on the hood.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:13 am

Comtrad wrote:Oh that's funny, as I didn't hear any other shots fired before the cop on the hood.

I did....after the first actual ram...which was done by the officers...johnny six gun got out and fired at the car before getting back into his and chasing him down again...I believe I saw a total of 3 officers fire at guy.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:15 am

Izzo wrote:I did....after the first actual ram...which was done by the officers...johnny six gun got out and fired at the car before getting back into his and chasing him down again...I believe I saw a total of 3 officers fire at guy.

Oh ok, I didn't actually have sound on.

In any case, his car was not used as a weapon. He was just trying to leave, which is not a threat to the cops until they put their bodies on/in front of the car as it was already moving.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:18 am

Comtrad wrote:Oh ok, I didn't actually have sound on.

In any case, his car was not used as a weapon. He was just trying to leave, which is not a threat to the cops until they put their bodies on/in front of the car as it was already moving.

When that first officer said "He tried to ram me" after 'the perp' had to stop ...then correct the direction his car was traveling so he could AVOID the cop car and take off I knew he was done for.....

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:36 am

wow intense video.... Alot of missing footage that from the damage the car was taking they had really rammed and pinned the car as much as possible but the guy kept trying to flee and put lives in danger..looks like good police work to me.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:40 am

Sava700 wrote:wow intense video.... Alot of missing footage that from the damage the car was taking they had really rammed and pinned the car as much as possible but the guy kept trying to flee and put lives in danger..looks like good police work to me.

How stupid are you guys?

Yes they were ramming the car...AND SHOOTING AT HIM! Why would he just want to sit there?

The cops are the idiots for getting in the way of a moving vehicle while he was being shot at and trying to save his life.

As mentioned before, just straight up murder.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:53 am

Comtrad wrote:How stupid are you guys?

Yes they were ramming the car...AND SHOOTING AT HIM! Why would he just want to sit there?

The cops are the idiots for getting in the way of a moving vehicle while he was being shot at and trying to save his life.

As mentioned before, just straight up murder.

what??? your kidding right? I just watched it and I agree with others here that it was justified. Getting out of the way of a moving vehicle when they were clearly doing their jobs. I didn't see no average joe jumping in the way or on the hood since that isn't their jobs. The guy wouldn't have been shot had he stopped the car during the first 1 min of high speed public endangering pursuit. As for why would he just want to sit there...?? Well lets think about this.. perhaps putting hands on his head and getting out of the car and laying down to give up he would be ok and perhaps no shots fired beyond those early on when they were shooting out tires.

Also from just watching the video, I have no idea if the guy pulled a gun and was shooting back, or was a drug runner with a co-pilot shooting back. This is alot of info and missing footage that you just can't see. But judging from what was seen it was all good Cop work to me.

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:55 am

Sava700 wrote:But judging from what was seen it was all good Cop work to me.

Of course you do.

You are correct in that we can't see everything so both sides are taking that tactic to say they were either in the right, or in the wrong.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:56 am

Comtrad wrote:Of course you do.

You are correct in that we can't see everything so both sides are taking that tactic to say they were either in the right, or in the wrong.

yep you have to pass your opinion based on what was seen..and clearly it was justified based on what was being shown on video.