Please help me. 4000/400up Cable Virgin media

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Please help me. 4000/400up Cable Virgin media

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Hello guys, first post I just wanted to sort out my speed on my network.

1.
I have Cable, using a Cable modem provided by NTL world at the time (Now Virgin media) It's about half a year old. (Doesn't get hot or anything and using Ethernet cable)

2.
My ISP is now Virgin Media UK england, my advertised speed is 4000kbs/400kb upload.

3. What are your current settings now? Do a TCP/IP Analyzer Test and copy and paste the results (remember to XXXXX out your IP address) here.

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« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 07.08.2007 15:16
IP address: 82.5.xxx.xxx

TCP options string: 020405700103030201010402
MSS: 1392
MTU: 1432
TCP Window: 148944 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2
Unscaled RWIN : 37236
Reccomended RWINs: 64032, 128064, 256128, 512256
BDP limit (200ms): 5958kbps (745KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 2383kbps (298KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: OFF
TTL: 47
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)


4.
Using Windows XP pro.

Used to get speeds of around 4000kb download and 400kb upload which is good and what it should be.

Using a Belkin F5D7230-4 v6000 Router latest firmware and all correct settings. This computer is connected directly from the router. No wireless.

Thanks.
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Try the following with TCP Optimizer:

General Settings tab:
Custom settings - check
Modify All Network Adapters - check
network adapter selection - your NIC
MTU 1500
TTL - 64
TCP Receive Window - 128480
MTU Discovery - Yes
Black Hole Detect - No
Selective Acks - Yes
Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
TCP 1323 Options:
Windows Scaling - checked
Timestamps - uncheck

Advanced Settings tab:
Max Connections per Server - 10
Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 20
LocalPriority - 1
Host Priority - 1
DNSPriority - 1
NetbtPriority - 1
Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 80
MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
NetFailureCacheTime - 0
NegativeSOACache Time - 0
LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768
Then select "Apply Changes" and reboot to take effect
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Wow :D Image
That's pretty good, I remember having 3970 before though hehehe, but don't worry about that small difference if it works every time :D .

Thanks, worked nice but I'm a little worried about the:

LocalPriority - 1
Host Priority - 1
DNSPriority - 1
NetbtPriority - 1

Does that mean it just puts all webpages at the top priority, I mean I just want it nice and balanced for gaming and web applications ;) .

If my understanding is correct anyway :P.

And about my router what can I do to improve that, I can't seem to find any net settings on it other than the basic normal stuff.

Any other tweaks? Thanks very much ;) .

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 07.09.2007 03:46
IP address: 82.5.xxx.xxx

TCP options string: 020405700103030101010402
MSS: 1392
MTU: 1432
TCP Window: 129456 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 1
Unscaled RWIN : 64728
Reccomended RWINs: 64032, 128064, 256128, 512256
BDP limit (200ms): 5178kbps (647KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 2071kbps (259KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: OFF
TTL: 47
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput. If you are using a router, it could be limiting your MTU regardless of Registry settings.

Why is it saying that :(
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Technex wrote: Thanks, worked nice but I'm a little worried about the:

LocalPriority - 1
Host Priority - 1
DNSPriority - 1
NetbtPriority - 1

Does that mean it just puts all webpages at the top priority, I mean I just want it nice and balanced for gaming and web applications ;) .

If my understanding is correct anyway :P.

And about my router what can I do to improve that, I can't seem to find any net settings on it other than the basic normal stuff.

Any other tweaks? Thanks very much ;) .

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 07.09.2007 03:46
IP address: 82.5.xxx.xxx

TCP options string: 020405700103030101010402
MSS: 1392
MTU: 1432
TCP Window: 129456 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 1
Unscaled RWIN : 64728
Reccomended RWINs: 64032, 128064, 256128, 512256
BDP limit (200ms): 5178kbps (647KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 2071kbps (259KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: OFF
TTL: 47
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput. If you are using a router, it could be limiting your MTU regardless of Registry settings.

Why is it saying that :(
I think your router is limiting your MTU or MSS.

Log into your router to make sure MTU or MRU is set to 1500 and MSS to 1460. After reset, save and reboot the router. These are settings for Cable Internet.

Thereafter, run the TCP Optimizer settings I gave and see if your MTU becomes 1500 and TCP Window becomes 128480.

You can try 5,6,7,8 (TCP Optimizer recommended) instead of the all 1s that I gave and see which setting performs better.
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Yeah I think that also, problem is I can't find the MTU/MRU/MSS settings anywhere in the router setup home page... I've looked in every single place.

I've googled for it "Belkin F5D7230-4 v6000" but no luck :( .
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Download the User Guide at this link:

http://web.belkin.com/support/download/ ... le_id=2063

Check and ensure your connection set up is for Dynamic IP and not the one for PPPoE as shown in page 30 of the User Guide.

If properly setup, your MTU would be 1500.
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It's on Dynamic:

TICKED (A Dynamic type of connection is the most common. If you use a cable modem, then most likely you will have a dynamic connection. If you have a cable modem or you are not sure of your connection type, use this.)

:(


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Technex wrote:It's on Dynamic:

TICKED (A Dynamic type of connection is the most common. If you use a cable modem, then most likely you will have a dynamic connection. If you have a cable modem or you are not sure of your connection type, use this.)

:(


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Check with your ISP tech as to whether you need to enter a host name and clone the MAC address of your PC into the router as mentioned in page 30 of the User Guide.
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Umm, any way other than phoning them? Were not really that keen of there custom service/phone line. And my dad's out atm he's the one with all the info on the account.

I can clone the MAC address I'm sure I've tried before but I'll do it again now.
Argh good job I saved this message my router messed up while cloning the MAC this time for some reason it went crazy I had to reset all the settings. Anyway back to all the right ones now, and the MAC clone worked this time.

Now I get:

TCP options string: 020405860103030101010402
MSS: 1414
MTU: 1454
TCP Window: 128674 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 1
Unscaled RWIN : 64337
Reccomended RWINs: 65044, 130088, 260176, 520352
BDP limit (200ms): 5147kbps (643KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 2059kbps (257KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: OFF
TTL: 47
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

MTU = 1454
MTU sometimes used in PPPoA applications. If not, consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput. If you are using a router, it could be limiting your MTU regardless of Registry settings.
MSS = 1414
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1414, which equals MSS.

Anyway is there any other way of finding the host name?


And thanks :) .
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Your ISP may or may not require a host name. If required, they would have issued you one. Only way to check is to ask them.

Your MTU is now set to 1454. This is a setting for PPPoE. Go to page 32 of the guide and try setting MTU to 1500. If your line disconnect when MTU is set to 1500, go back to this page and reset it back to 1454.
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Would the hostname effect speed? If not then it's working fine without it.


There's no option to change the MTU anywhere :( .
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Then I am out of ideas why your MTU is set to 1454 for Cable Internet. But if your speed is near to 4 mbps, I suggest leaving it at that.
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Humm, but why :S. I don't know why it won't let you change the MTU. Is there some kinda 3rd party software which can change it mate?

Thanks.

edit: Like what the!

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TCP Optimizer would have set MTU in your registry to 1500.

It may be limited by your router to 1454. One way to check is to connect your comp directly to the modem and run TCP Analyzer.
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Yeah I'll do that just after I post this message.


A interesting thing is that if I set up my connection type in my router settings to PPPoE connection it will then let me change my MTU size up to 1492... But why not with cable?

hold on while I swap all cables around :P.
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Here we go, after pluging my computer into the modem directly look what I get, what it should be!

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 07.10.2007 13:06
IP address: 82.3.xxx.xxx

TCP options string: 020405b40103030101010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 128480 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 1
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Reccomended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920
BDP limit (200ms): 5139kbps (642KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 2056kbps (257KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 47
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

But the speeds I get are bad still -_-.

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But wow does it download fast on the London server :O. The speeds look crap but I tell you the time the test took was a lot less!

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Make sure your modem is placed a few feet away from other electrical devices including the router. Turn power to the modem off for a few minutes to let it reset itself.
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I'll turn off my modem now, I'll be back in about 5 mins then. I'll test as soon as it comes back on.


My modem's under my computer it has about 15cm of clearance, no where else to put it.

What about the router's settings not working :( ?

Anyway brb mate.

Edit: Okay back same modem only after 4 mins or so:

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Do a tracert to http://www.yahoo.com and post.

To do a tracert, click 'Start' and then 'Run'. Type "cmd" into the box and click 'ok'.

A DOS black screen will appear. Type after the C:\>

tracert http://www.yahoo.com

and press enter key

When test is completed, move mouse cursor to the DOS black screen, click right and choose 'select all'.

Move mouse cursor to the Quick Reply box of this forum, click right and 'paste'.
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Thanks, done so. I remember doing a tracert before lots of lines of info :) .

C:\Documents and Settings\Technex>tracert http://www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to http://www.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 11 ms 7 ms 10.28.28.1

2 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge96.inet.ntl.com [62.253.122.13]

3 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms winn-t3core-1a-ge-010-0.inet.ntl.com [195.182.176.145]

4 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms win-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]

5 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]

6 22 ms 39 ms 25 ms telc-ic-1-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]

7 23 ms 22 ms 21 ms ldn-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.100.97]

8 23 ms 23 ms 26 ms ldn-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.225]

9 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms dln-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.85]

10 31 ms 21 ms 21 ms yahoo-115023-dln-b1.c.telia.net [213.155.141.182]

11 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms ge-1-3.bas-b2.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.101.7]

12 24 ms 26 ms 23 ms f1.us.http://www.vip.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14]

Trace complete.
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Technex wrote:Thanks, done so. I remember doing a tracert before lots of lines of info :) .

C:\Documents and Settings\Technex>tracert http://www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to http://www.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 11 ms 7 ms 10.28.28.1

2 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge96.inet.ntl.com [62.253.xxx.xxx]

3 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms winn-t3core-1a-ge-010-0.inet.ntl.com [195.182.176.145]

4 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms win-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]
Seems the modem is being affected by electromagnetic interference as seen in irregular ping times at hop 1.

Try shifting the modem and see if you can get all 3 ping times at hop 1 to level off at 8ms. Place it on the floor if necessary.
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It's on the floor. Are you sure it's electromagnetic interference? It just seems a little strange that it drops from 4000kbs to 1000kbs just from that :O.

I can't really move it as it's on the floor already under my PC though. If it is this to blame then maybe some kind of metal shield? I dunno...
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Technex wrote:It's on the floor. Are you sure it's electromagnetic interference? It just seems a little strange that it drops from 4000kbs to 1000kbs just from that :O.

I can't really move it as it's on the floor already under my PC though. If it is this to blame then maybe some kind of metal shield? I dunno...
Yes, EMI causes wide fluctuation in speed and latency as observed in the past posts of members. Constant slow speed is usually caused by defective hardware or wiring, but speed do not swing widely.
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Okay here are some images which I hope will help you help me :) .

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1648/modem1ll2.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5577/modem2hb8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5240/modem3uy8.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1141/modem4eg0.jpg

That's a 4db filter (Forward Path Equaliser) on the modem there. The metal thing, a engineer put it on there after we called him out about low speeds. Think it's wise to keep it on there?

I wrapped all them cables there lately to see if it would help airflow it has done slightly, but I was getting slow speeds before anyway. It looks messy but I mean where else do you put them! :P

My speed today, a few mins after taking pictures:

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Thank you :) .

Edit, I moved the modem all the way over to where my feet is, no electronics around there, without the filter (All nice tight connections) I still get this speed:

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Moved (same place as last test) with filter:

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Something very wrong here :( .
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Technex wrote:Okay here are some images which I hope will help you help me :) .

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1648/modem1ll2.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5577/modem2hb8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5240/modem3uy8.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1141/modem4eg0.jpg

That's a 4db filter (Forward Path Equaliser) on the modem there. The metal thing, a engineer put it on there after we called him out about low speeds. Think it's wise to keep it on there?

I wrapped all them cables there lately to see if it would help airflow it has done slightly, but I was getting slow speeds before anyway. It looks messy but I mean where else do you put them! :P

My speed today, a few mins after taking pictures:

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Thank you :) .

Edit, I moved the modem all the way over to where my feet is, no electronics around there, without the filter (All nice tight connections) I still get this speed:

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Moved (same place as last test) with filter:

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Something very wrong here :( .
The photos show 2 source of electromagnetic interference:

Coiled power cables
Sub_woofer

In basic electricity, we studied that a current that passes through a coil of wire will generate an electromagnetic force, the principle of a motor. As it is only a 3-wire power cable, uncoil the cables and cut off the excess length and rewire them to the 3-pin plugs (green for earth, brown/red for live and blue/black for neutral - remember which colour goes where).

A sub-woofer holds a strong magnet inside it. Uncoil your signal cable that is connected to the modem and place your modem a few feet away from the sub-woofer, along the wall leading to the steel support stand.
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Yes I remember the days when I used to make those cool elecromagnetic lifters with lots of coiled wire. Damn took me a while wrapping that all up. I don't know where else to put it that wouldn't restrict airflow/get in the way.

Ohh I tell you, I would love to rewire them ;) . If it wasn't for my dad I would have already. I'll have a talk with him later. You see not all them cables are power one of them is there Cat5/e? cable for the modem.

There's no speaker there, that's my case for my computer (I'm into overclocking their's to large fans there). Sorry I should have made it clear, http://www.foramax.hu/images/Aerocoll%2 ... k-45-1.jpg.

What about that 2db filter thingy?

Thanks.

Edit:

With pan over top: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6466 ... verio8.jpg

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With NO pan over top: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2029 ... vermt5.jpg

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Whereas it may look like an improvement the upload speed has reduced. And download changed to lower/higher on every test.
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Technex wrote:Yes I remember the days when I used to make those cool elecromagnetic lifters with lots of coiled wire. Damn took me a while wrapping that all up. I don't know where else to put it that wouldn't restrict airflow/get in the way.

Ohh I tell you, I would love to rewire them ;) . If it wasn't for my dad I would have already. I'll have a talk with him later. You see not all them cables are power one of them is there Cat5/e? cable for the modem.

There's no speaker there, that's my case for my computer (I'm into overclocking their's to large fans there). Sorry I should have made it clear, http://www.foramax.hu/images/Aerocoll%2 ... k-45-1.jpg.

What about that 2db filter thingy?

Thanks.
Log into your cable modem and check the signal levels and compare them with those of this thread:

http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php? ... =92&qid=78

If your signal levels are too weak, then the filter should be removed.
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How the hell do I log into my cable modem?


:S

Thanks.
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Technex wrote:How the hell do I log into my cable modem?


:S

Thanks.
What is the brand and model no. of the modem?
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Ntl:250

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/141 ... band-modem

I don't think you can get settings on it.

Also: TCP window: 115000 is that good, because I get latency of around 200 on all the servers I visit.

I used:

4000/kbps
x delay 230
= 115000

So 115000 is good?

Also I edited my post back, I added a shield and talked about the cabling.
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Technex wrote:Ntl:250

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/141 ... band-modem

I don't think you can get settings on it.

Also: TCP window: 115000 is that good, because I get latency of around 200 on all the servers I visit.

I used:

4000/kbps
x delay 230
= 115000

So 115000 is good?

Also I edited my post back, I added a shield and talked about the cabling.
You also need to make TCP Window an even multiple of MSS.

MSS = MTU - 40 = 1460

115000/1460 = 78.76

Use 78 x 1460 = 113880
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Okay done that, what about all the other stuff?

Thanks ;) .


Sigh, it's at the lowest it's been so far...

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Technex wrote:Okay done that, what about all the other stuff?

Thanks ;) .


Sigh, it's at the lowest it's been so far...

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Click this : http://192.168.100.1/

Use 'root' for username and password.
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It is half past midnight where I am. Will be going to bed now.

Get those cables (power and signal) uncoiled and separated and then turn power off the modem to let it reset before reconnecting and test speed.
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Night or morning when you see this ;) .

Cable Modem Downstream
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 41
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 5.0 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 39.9 dB Which is good

Upstream:

Upstream Lock : Not Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 3
Upstream Frequency : 34000000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 46.0 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2

Without filter:

Cable Modem Downstream
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 41
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 7.7 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.3 dB

Upstream:

Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 3
Upstream Frequency : 34000000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 55.5 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2
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Technex wrote:Night or morning when you see this ;) .

Cable Modem Downstream
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 41
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 5.0 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 39.9 dB Which is good

Upstream:

Upstream Lock : Not Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 3
Upstream Frequency : 34000000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 46.0 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2

Without filter:

Cable Modem Downstream
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 41
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 7.7 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.3 dB

Upstream:

Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 3
Upstream Frequency : 34000000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 55.5 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2
With filter is better as it lowers the power levels of both downstream and upstream.
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Yep but Upstream transmit Power Level is very high still...

Shall I get a 6db one somehow?

Anything else to do, it seems like EMI isn't really effecting my modem after all.
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Downstream Receive Power Level : 5.0 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 39.9 dB Which is good
Upstream transmit Power Level : 46.0 dBmV
These are the values with the filter and they are all within good ranges.

If EMI was not the cause, what was the cause? I suspected EMI affected your modem, not router.
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Yeah but would a higher filter be better?

I didn't mean to say router sorry, I meant modem. Well it's just strange how moving it all the way out and also adding a big metal shield didn't change it :( .

Thanks.

I done the http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ test. It's far away from me but still...

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 383.66Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 3.58Mb/s

------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.6.0_01

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
Cable modem/DSL/T1 link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 224.21 msec; the Packet size = 1414 Bytes; and
No packet loss - but packets arrived out-of-order 34.61% of the time
This connection is receiver limited 80.75% of the time.
This connection is network limited 19.22% of the time.

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Information: Network Middlebox is modifying MSS variable
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Information: Network Address Translation (NAT) box is modifying the Client's IP address
Server says [82.x.xxx.xxx] but Client says [192.168.2.4]

Internet/games still seem pretty slow.

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:(
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Technex wrote:Yeah but would a higher filter be better?

I didn't mean to say router sorry, I meant modem. Well it's just strange how moving it all the way out and also adding a big metal shield didn't change it :( .

Thanks.

I done the http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ test. It's far away from me but still...

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 383.66Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 3.58Mb/s

------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.6.0_01

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
Cable modem/DSL/T1 link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 224.21 msec; the Packet size = 1414 Bytes; and
No packet loss - but packets arrived out-of-order 34.61% of the time
This connection is receiver limited 80.75% of the time.
This connection is network limited 19.22% of the time.

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Information: Network Middlebox is modifying MSS variable
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Information: Network Address Translation (NAT) box is modifying the Client's IP address
Server says [82.x.xxx.xxx] but Client says [192.168.2.4]

Internet/games still seem pretty slow.

Image

:(
Did you uncoil the cables? Solve the problem at source.

The NDT test indicates your speed near to 3.6 mbps, which is about 90% of your subscribed speed. Perhaps there is problem at the Maidenhead test server that gives a much lower speed? Try testing in some other test servers.
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