bigmo66 wrote:Don't under state Zarqawi's leadership. This was not some Gomer or puppet that can be replaced overnight. There might be plenty of folks willing to "try" and take his role and plenty ready to strap on dynamite, but he will not be duplicated thank goodness.
Umm...maybe not and moe, don't take me wrong. I'm happy that he's gone and wish this admin had not wasted their chance a long time ago to get rid of him.
However, I have to say that what I'm hearing in the news and "if" he can be duplicated, are at odds.
Shinobi wrote:minir
I 2nd your Congratulations to all involved.. I also hope that all the other @sses up your way get rounded up.. even though it looks like the main group got taken down.
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Hi Shinobi
These murdering bastards are everywhere and we all need to be vigilant. Apparently the roundup of the 17 here in Canada has led to at least 2 more being picked up in London England and some further intelligence has been given to the US Administration as well.
The Internet plays a huge role in these animals co=ordinating their efforts and ideas and it is nigh on impossible to stop, but when caught it usually leads to others being picked up as well.
These butchers are anything but geniuses and they usually leave a trail a mile wide implicating others, thankfully.
Here's hoping it helps bring down more along the way.
So what if they finally got him? This changes absolutely nothing except to provide a little positive propaganda for the naive world to chew on. The bold print used in the papers here in Spain would make one think the war was over or something. It's so stupid.
There are a dozen more radical jihadists standing in the background waiting to take his place and they all can't wait to make the top of our hitlist, even if we do continue to take them one by one... We are helping them fulfill their twisted dreams and aspirations.
Violence begets violence begets violence.. the cycle will never end.
"Nobody's invincible, no plan is foolproof, We all must meet our moment of truth." - Guru
downhill wrote:Umm...maybe not and moe, don't take me wrong. I'm happy that he's gone and wish this admin had not wasted their chance a long time ago to get rid of him.
However, I have to say that what I'm hearing in the news and "if" he can be duplicated, are at odds.
There are "replacement killers" to be sure, but he was definitely above average on the bad guy scale. Not too many Bin Ladens and Zarqawis out there thank God.
Democrats call Zarqawi killing a stunt
By Amy Fagan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 8, 2006
4:09 p.m.
Some Democrats, breaking ranks from their leadership, today said the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq was a stunt to divert attention from an unpopular and hopeless war.
"This is just to cover Bush's [rear] so he doesn't have to answer" for Iraqi civilians being killed by the U.S. military and his own sagging poll numbers, said Rep. Pete Stark, California Democrat. "Iraq is still a mess -- get out."
Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, said Zarqawi was a small part of "a growing anti-American insurgency" and that it's time to get out.
"We're there for all the wrong reasons," Mr. Kucinich said.
Officially, Democratic leaders reacted positively to the news and praised the troops that successfully targeted al Qaeda's leader in Iraq with 500-pound bombs at his safe house 30 miles from Baghdad.
"This is a good day for the Iraqi people, the U.S. military and our intelligence community," said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.
President Bush said that yesterday's killing of the 39-year-old Jordanian-born terrorist offers an opportunity to "turn the tide" in the war and that Tuesday he will discuss with Iraqi leaders "how to best deploy America's resources in Iraq."
A senior White House official cautioned that Mr. Bush was not hinting at possible early reductions in U.S. troops there, according to Reuters news agency.
Meanwhile, Democrats sprinkled caveats throughout their praise.
"That is good news; he was a dreadful, vicious person," said Sen. Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat. Mr. Conrad added that he hopes the military can get Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, another top al Qaeda leader.
"They're even more important," he said.
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Michigan Democrat, said it was good news but added, "I think we have a long way to go."
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Ghosthunter wrote:No reason to call me names..once you do that your argument falls south.
You love to do that..thinks it makes you feel better...
I wont stoop to your level.
you're telling me what I'm thinking now? ......you claim that I blindly hate Bush when you blindly believe in him .... if you can't see that then there is no hope for you ... as far as making me feel better ...again the same could be said about your 'lol's, lmao's" after each comment you make .... you'd figure a person with a half an ounce of brain cells would figure out that when a quarter of the boards basically rips you for your ridiculous posts that one would get the hint that maybe there is something wrong with your thought process...but nope...keep it up there sport and i'll hope one day you wake up from your stupor and realize there are serious things wrong with this country.....lol, teehee...lmao ...rofl....roofleberries.... like my gramps said never argue with an ....
I was watching Anderson Headroom on CNN. Supposedly, he was being tracked and surveiled for a few days. If he was in the building with but a couple of people, why were two five hunderd pound ordinances needed to remove his presence? Would it not have been nice to at least attempt not to kill the one woman and child in the building?
Can't say I will miss this piece scum, but would it not be nice to see this sack of crap humiliated in orange Gitmo fatigues?
Hell_Yes
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Izzo wrote:you're telling me what I'm thinking now? ......you claim that I blindly hate Bush when you blindly believe in him .... if you can't see that then there is no hope for you ... as far as making me feel better ...again the same could be said about your 'lol's, lmao's" after each comment you make .... you'd figure a person with a half an ounce of brain cells would figure out that when a quarter of the boards basically rips you for your ridiculous posts that one would get the hint that maybe there is something wrong with your thought process...but nope...keep it up there sport and i'll hope one day you wake up from your stupor and realize there are serious things wrong with this country.....lol, teehee...lmao ...rofl....roofleberries.... like my gramps said never argue with an ....
i dont blindly follow bush..you keep putting words in my mouth
no this board is just full of liberals that is the problem
Yeah??? it just goes to show that dems will stoop to anything
If bush really cared about his poll numbers that much he would have pulled out in Iraq a long time ago. To say this was a political move to boost his numbers is something that really helps the morale of our troops.
downhill wrote:Sheesh......take a few minutes to cool off and reread the story. It's full of spin.
Do you not think that Republicans are saying the same things?
Dems will stoop to anything eh? Like Delay's stoop to anything, or what? Good grief, take a second and read what your posting, my friend.
this thread not about delay...it about killing of a terrorist who killed hundreds of innocents...and of course it gets turned into oh how...it a political stunt
that is an insult to the troops who are putting their lives everyday for us.
when they get bin laden i am sure democrats will say the same exact thing.oh it took them so long...why it take so long and yada yada
I was watching Anderson Headroom on CNN. Supposedly, he was being tracked and surveiled for a few days. If he was in the building with but a couple of people, why were two five hunderd pound ordinances needed to remove his presence? Would it not have been nice to at least attempt not to kill the one woman and child in the building?
Can't say I will miss this piece scum, but would it not be nice to see this sack of crap humiliated in orange Gitmo fatigues?
Yeah, sucks about the woman and kid! I think that they dropped both just to make sure that he was dead! Funny thing is, that he survived the initial blasts and was carried away on a stretcher by Iraqi police ALIVE! Sheeeesh, talk about hard to kill!
Revising what military officials said Thursday, Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed in the bombing. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out.
He said three women and three men, including Zarqawi, were killed.
Prey521 wrote:Yeah, sucks about the woman and kid! I think that they dropped both just to make sure that he was dead! Funny thing is, that he survived the initial blasts and was carried away on a stretcher by Iraqi police ALIVE! Sheeeesh, talk about hard to kill!
Right ... I mean if there were that many troops right there why not make a more concerted effort to reduce the collateral damage ...especially after Haditha.
Izzo wrote:Right ... I mean if there were that many troops right there why not make a more concerted effort to reduce the collateral damage ...especially after Haditha.
War spelled backwards = ..................................
Ghosthunter wrote:this thread not about delay...it about killing of a terrorist who killed hundreds of innocents...and of course it gets turned into oh how...it a political stunt
that is an insult to the troops who are putting their lives everyday for us.
when they get bin laden i am sure democrats will say the same exact thing.oh it took them so long...why it take so long and yada yada
Yada yada yada.....lecture me on staying on topic when it was you who started the usual, "It's the Dems...it's the dems".
When they get bin Laden, I'll be happy but dude, figure it out. We had him in Afghanistan but your hero took his eye off the war on terror and created an even harder war to fight. Suck it up, GH, the guy and his adminastration are bumbling fools. They first let bin Laden slip through their fingers and when they had a chance to get Zargawi, they blew that to. All they've done is to create 10 new terrorists for every 1 they've managed to derail. (just guessing here and I'm sure that's a low figure)
But NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself —]
Ghosthunter wrote:umm it was pie who did a cut and paste about the dems...not me
well clinton could have got bin laden way back when and maybe prevented 9-11..but of course he did not..so you really want to through this all over?
Sure, even though you and I've done it to death. There is NOTHING to that story. The 9-11 commision who you loved to quote found the story was false. Scopes finds the story false and so does everyone else but Limbaugh, Newsmax and Fox news who love to rehash that little lie for the Clinton haters and the gullible.
GH, keeping up this little lie you like to do is.......[GH Voice on]that is an insult to the troops who are putting their lives everyday for us.[/GH Voice off]
There you go.
yeah all clinton cared about was which intern he got to do we know that...he had so many oppurtunities to be pro active about fighting terrorism instead he leaves it to Bush..then dems blame bush for not doing enoubgh to prevent 9-11 in just the short 9 months he was in office:
Richard Miniter: One of the big myths about the Clinton years is that no one knew about bin Laden until Sept. 11, 2001. In fact, the bin Laden threat was recognized at the highest levels of the Clinton administration as early as 1993. What's more, bin Laden's attacks kept escalating throughout the Clinton administration; all told bin Laden was responsible for the deaths of 59 Americans on Clinton's watch.
President Clinton learned about bin Laden within months of being sworn into office. National Security Advisor Anthony Lake told me that he first heard the name Osama bin Laden in 1993 in relation to the World Trade Center attack. Lake briefed the president about bin Laden that same year.
he did absoultely not a thing except bomb an aspirin factory...that was it
Clinton did not want to lose his precious polls numbers..and would not do what was needed when we needed him
Ghosthunter wrote:yeah all clinton cared about was which intern he got to do we know that...he had so many oppurtunities to be pro active about fighting terrorism instead he leaves it to Bush..then dems blame bush for not doing enoubgh to prevent 9-11 in just the short 9 months he was in office:
I see the story has changed. Still, I would have expected something a bit more surgical. Meh, All the same would it not have been sweet to blow Saddam to kingdom come instead.
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Luck is where preparation meets opportunity - Seneca
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
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Ghosthunter wrote:yeah all clinton cared about was which intern he got to do we know that...he had so many oppurtunities to be pro active about fighting terrorism instead he leaves it to Bush..then dems blame bush for not doing enoubgh to prevent 9-11 in just the short 9 months he was in office:
he did absoultely not a thing except bomb an aspirin factory...that was it
Clinton did not want to lose his precious polls numbers..and would not do what was needed when we needed him
GH,
Do you REALLY want to rehash this old argument?
Is it not enough to accept that politicos will politicize any story to suit their ends? By now, most of us are tired of the BS from both parties.
david
Hell_Yes
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity - Seneca
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Do you REALLY want to rehash this old argument?
Is it not enough to accept that politicos will politicize any story to suit their ends? By now, most of us are tired of the BS from both parties.
david
One of the most intelligent posts this thread has seen. Bless you.
Do you REALLY want to rehash this old argument?
Is it not enough to accept that politicos will politicize any story to suit their ends? By now, most of us are tired of the BS from both parties.
david
I am actually tired of political threads in general...it same old over and over again...but this should never have turned into politics.
