My wife and best friend kissed
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zooner wrote:
he has. I've been begging them to f*ck for a long time.
Respecfully sir, you have no idea what love is. YOu are stuck inside some insane 'romantic' idea in your own head.....sad....
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nah, that was all about the cash.CiscoKid wrote:This sure does explain alot about you man...especially the porn site you were talking about getting started...
market is entirely too saturated to take on an upstart though. would have been a wasted effort.
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To compete against the big boys you have to sell something unique that the big boys don't sell. Take Wal-Mart for example. If you sell something of quality that Wal-Mart doesn't then you will command a buyers market and hence compete.zooner wrote:nah, that was all about the cash.
market is entirely too saturated to take on an upstart though. would have been a wasted effort.
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This is only my opinion, take it as nothing more and nothing less, listen as you like, ignore what you will..
You have been smiled upon my friend. to be able to live with the woman and family you love even after any sort of "sin" is a good sign that you are slowly being forgiven. What you need to do is sit down with her and talk.. really talk.. if you love her, attempt to start over anew. If you've tried and she cannot forgive you enough.. then time will need to work some more.. dont lose hope, and dont take it out on yourself anymore. Do what you must to make your life and yourself better for her.
many people here say many negative things about what you are doing between your wife and your friend.. I personally think that if she loves you and you love her and you know she will not chase him even after any extra events may happen, then what you have is a free swinging relationship. That is not a bad thing either. Now-a-days its very common, hell in Canada there are swing clubs for such lifestyles, and i dont doubt thier exsistance here in the states either but hard to find im sure..
The Tatoo I personally think is a bad idea.. Sin is something that should be forgiven, learned from, and remembered only in an echo.. not in a day to day event..
You have been smiled upon my friend. to be able to live with the woman and family you love even after any sort of "sin" is a good sign that you are slowly being forgiven. What you need to do is sit down with her and talk.. really talk.. if you love her, attempt to start over anew. If you've tried and she cannot forgive you enough.. then time will need to work some more.. dont lose hope, and dont take it out on yourself anymore. Do what you must to make your life and yourself better for her.
many people here say many negative things about what you are doing between your wife and your friend.. I personally think that if she loves you and you love her and you know she will not chase him even after any extra events may happen, then what you have is a free swinging relationship. That is not a bad thing either. Now-a-days its very common, hell in Canada there are swing clubs for such lifestyles, and i dont doubt thier exsistance here in the states either but hard to find im sure..
The Tatoo I personally think is a bad idea.. Sin is something that should be forgiven, learned from, and remembered only in an echo.. not in a day to day event..
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I don't think the forgiveness zooner so dearly seeks is that of his wife's. It sounds like she has already forgiven him. I don't htink he has been able to forgive himself. Regret is a very difficult thing to live with.
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well said and thank for taking the time to offer me your wisdom.SpareX wrote:This is only my opinion, take it as nothing more and nothing less, listen as you like, ignore what you will..
You have been smiled upon my friend. to be able to live with the woman and family you love even after any sort of "sin" is a good sign that you are slowly being forgiven. What you need to do is sit down with her and talk.. really talk.. if you love her, attempt to start over anew. If you've tried and she cannot forgive you enough.. then time will need to work some more.. dont lose hope, and dont take it out on yourself anymore. Do what you must to make your life and yourself better for her.
many people here say many negative things about what you are doing between your wife and your friend.. I personally think that if she loves you and you love her and you know she will not chase him even after any extra events may happen, then what you have is a free swinging relationship. That is not a bad thing either. Now-a-days its very common, hell in Canada there are swing clubs for such lifestyles, and i dont doubt thier exsistance here in the states either but hard to find im sure..
The Tatoo I personally think is a bad idea.. Sin is something that should be forgiven, learned from, and remembered only in an echo.. not in a day to day event..
just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.
I love my wife and she loves me. We have a love that parallels my strangeness. the sex was merely a pillow mint in our relationship.
In discussing our future, she suggested we buy a duplex. So we can still be joined at the brain, but feel more comfortable sleeping with other people.
I suggested she f*ck my best friend for a couple of simple reasons. I trust him completely and know that he wouldn't hurt her. He has a kinship love for her. From talking to his ex-wife (in idle chatter - I have no boundaries in conversation), he is a very skilled love-machine. His talents would give my wife the pleasure that she deserves.
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[quote="zooner"]well said and thank for taking the time to offer me your wisdom.
just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.
I love my wife and she loves me. We have a love that parallels my strangeness. the sex was merely a pillow mint in our relationship.
In discussing our future, she suggested we buy a duplex. So we can still be joined at the brain, but feel more comfortable sleeping with other people.
I suggested she f*ck my best friend for a couple of simple reasons. I trust him completely and know that he wouldn't hurt her. He has a kinship love for her. From talking to his ex-wife (in idle chatter - I have no boundaries in conversation), he is a very skilled love-machine. His talents would give my wife the pleasure that she deserves.
would you buy the love of your life a porsche or a pinto]
It is referred to as "love-making" for a very good reason.
just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.
I love my wife and she loves me. We have a love that parallels my strangeness. the sex was merely a pillow mint in our relationship.
In discussing our future, she suggested we buy a duplex. So we can still be joined at the brain, but feel more comfortable sleeping with other people.
I suggested she f*ck my best friend for a couple of simple reasons. I trust him completely and know that he wouldn't hurt her. He has a kinship love for her. From talking to his ex-wife (in idle chatter - I have no boundaries in conversation), he is a very skilled love-machine. His talents would give my wife the pleasure that she deserves.
would you buy the love of your life a porsche or a pinto]
It is referred to as "love-making" for a very good reason.
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ok, I'm sorry, but I've gotta ask - the curiosity is killing me ...zooner wrote:just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.
WTF did you do Zooner??
maybe if we had some idea, it would help some of us (myself included) understand why you want your wife to have sex with another guy ...
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Hell_Yes wrote:It is referred to as "love-making" for a very good reason.
y'know ..I just about hit the 'submit reply' button with a similar statement this morning .....
I'm curious ...you say you're beggin him to "f***" your wife...what if your boy wants to "make love" to your wife. What then?
edit> I'm with JR...kinda can't post a thread like this and not spill the whole pot o' beans.
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Maybe insecure vs. immature - no judgements here at all.John wrote:I would murder in cold blood any man, before I let him touch my S.O. in the way you are discussing.
Maybe I am just immature.
Everyone has different thresholds. I've been in a polyamorous-like relationship before (my GF and I dated the same woman at the same time). It takes a lot of faith in yourself and your relationship to not feel the need to control/own it. It's much *safer* to be the only one iwtha guarantee - marriage certificate, promise of being the 'only one'. I never worried once about be left out/alone.
The only way to truly keep something is to be able give it away - be it love, respect or trust.
What percentage of marriages in this country end in divorce....?
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It's not a justification for anything, simply a statement that 'traditional' views of relationships may not be as perfect as some hold.Burke wrote:That old, rehashed justification has no bearing on this.
I don't think anything that zooner or I posted requires any justification at all.
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Blisster wrote:It *would* be brokeback bay if I in fact went and hung out with Skye and co (did I mention he is teh hotness?)
tell that to his children when they ask why mommy is kissing another man.cyberskye wrote:It's not a justification for anything, simply a statement that 'traditional' views of relationships may not be as perfect as some hold.
I don't think anything that zooner or I posted requires any justification at all.
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