With all due respect to "Doors" fans

[David]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/0 ... index.html

Dinty Moore states that the appeal of the Doors comes from them being frozen in their prime. Sorry, but Jim Morrison died a drunken bearded fat **** in France. He was no longer the lithe spitfire. The band was done by the time he died.

As you can tell, I have issues with reviving this dead band for the upteenth time.

[downhill]

David, while it's true, that he probably died as a heroine addict, bearded and whatever, as I don't have a clue about the fat part.....the public at that time, wasn't bombarded with pics of him.

It isn't any different than Elvis, Stevie Ray Vaughn or Hendrix. Our perceptions of who they are and what they represented to us are frozen in time.

As to the Doors music, while I understand each generation has it's own James Dean, I'm not convinced that The Doors appeal is about Morrison as much as it is about their music.

[Chris]

I honestly don't think its a reviving the doors issue, its more reviving everything old issue.
The music of the last few decades has not been good for the most part.
I see and hear kids buying, listening and following the classic rock bands.
Just look at the proliferation of classic rock radio stations, there is barely a market in North America without a classic rock station.
I think people are sick of the generated bands, put together by the industry for the sole purpose of selling CD's.
The 50' > 70's represents an erra where bands came out of garages and earned there way to the top by going against the grain. The younger listeners today want to be different as we did and rebel, but their anthem singers are a product of the industry, not the nutorious bands of yesterday.

If you want the truth, go to the source.
The doors are just part of this resurgence.

[knightmare]

Did Jim Morrison die as they say?

Only two people saw Jim Morrison's dead body -- his wife Pamela and Dr. Vasille. Dr. Vasille has repeatedly denied interviews and will not answer questions, and Pamela is dead.


I myself, never did care for their style of music.

[David]

If you want the truth, go to the source.
The doors are just part of this resurgence.

The source is marketing.

[YARDofSTUF]

I honestly don't think its a reviving the doors issue, its more reviving everything old issue.
The music of the last few decades has not been good for the most part.
I see and hear kids buying, listening and following the classic rock bands.
Just look at the proliferation of classic rock radio stations, there is barely a market in North America without a classic rock station.
I think people are sick of the generated bands, put together by the industry for the sole purpose of selling CD's.
The 50' > 70's represents an erra where bands came out of garages and earned there way to the top by going against the grain. The younger listeners today want to be different as we did and rebel, but their anthem singers are a product of the industry, not the nutorious bands of yesterday.

If you want the truth, go to the source.
The doors are just part of this resurgence.

And look at how many classic rock stations have fallen, there used to be about twice as many a few years ago. We had like 5 here, now I bet theres only 1 getting any kind of decent ratings. Thankfully the best one is staying with classic rock

There are still tons of bands that started in garages, soem that are still there and thanks to the net, able to be heard, but most young people dont care to look for it and are ok to be spoon fed the industry's "paxil band" of the month.

The talent is there jsut as much, but the industry doesnt care to use it, unless of course a band actually does well financially on their own, then they try to sign them and created 20 different bands that sound like them.

I think the "mainstream" is moving steadily away from rock in all forms, clasic, modern, underground. Everythign is moving to Rap, R&B, and ubran electronic sounds.

But I dont think its a bad thing either, I think you get less filler bands this way and more substance.




And as far as the doors, and all the older bands like them, if there is no new music, dont make a release, and dont try to make a new CD now lol

Too many bands get rereleased, remastered, DVD audio, special remaster, blah blah blah. If it sold so well the first time DONT **** WITH IT. 80s-90s remasters are nice, but teh real old stuff I prefer to hear the older sound to it, I think it soudns better like that.

If they want to spur sells, don't sell the old cds for like 20 bucks.

[Blisster]

One of the most horrible things I ever heard was The Doors doing "Light my Fire" as few years back with Scott Stapp of Creed singing :shudder:

Conversely, one of the greater things was seeing The Doors do "Riders on the Storm" with Ian Astbury singing.

[messiah]

I've always loved the doors- which is more than just Jim Morrison, imo. Ray was the fundamental mastermind behind the music and as an engineer I have to say that there is allot of oppurtnities with doors trax to do remixes. Especially with DJ's and producers. BT released a doors album, snoop did a doors mix, Oakenfold, Blondie a ton of people. While the traditional rock covers all blow- There is a completely new doors sound that's coming from the DJ/Producers camp that will revive the Doors.

With the 40th anniversary- the marketing schtick that Rhino and Universal records is using is the anti-authoritarian angle of the band, and how they "Stood" for creative freedom, anti-war and all that jazz. While I love the doors, I don't buy for one second that they "stood" for anything. The band was fed up with Morrison early on and Jim's apathy and drug abuse simply created a "f-u, and everything else" attitude which was unfortnatly forced onto the public.

The doors stint was short- but it's being kept alive for one reason... It's good music.

We're going to see and hear a ton of the doors in the next 6mos- including tv specials, unreleased films, and even a new movie. All under the disguise of "We were the first rock rebels". Which is completely nonsense.

You can listen to some of the DJ/Production versions here:

Crystal Method
Oakenfold
Snoop
BT

[Chris]

The source is marketing.

It is at this time David, and the article you posted is proof of that.
But
What caused the marketers to relook at the old acts?
It's because the people want to listen to the classic rock, because the new acts that were being pushed by the lables were not appealing to the money spenders.
And when I say the source3, I mean the old artists, not the lables

[YARDofSTUF]

One of the most horrible things I ever heard was The Doors doing "Light my Fire" as few years back with Scott Stapp of Creed singing :shudder:

Conversely, one of the greater things was seeing The Doors do "Riders on the Storm" with Ian Astbury singing.

I thought scott sapp did riders of the storm?

[TonyT]

more Doors hype...blah blah.
anyway, here is the REAL stuff (worth pursuing) from classic rock bands being marketed and released:
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/
check out the vault radio.

[downhill]

more Doors hype...blah blah.
anyway, here is the REAL stuff (worth pursuing) from classic rock bands being marketed and released:
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/
check out the vault radio.

[downhill]

I thought scott sapp did riders of the storm?

Since Astbury is still singing for Manzarek and Kregger, and since Sapp did a short stint with them, I'd say they've both sang both songs with the band.

[Roody]

As you can tell, I have issues with reviving this dead band for the upteenth time.

I pretty much feel the same way about Nirvana who IMO had to be one of the more overrated bands in my lifetime.

[Izzo]

I pretty much feel the same way about Nirvana who IMO had to be one of the more overrated bands in my lifetime.

Ouch ..that hurts. Nirvana

[YARDofSTUF]

I pretty much feel the same way about Nirvana who IMO had to be one of the more overrated bands in my lifetime.

Ya, I like some of thier stuff, but they get WAY to much credit given to them.

[Izzo]

Ya, I like some of thier stuff, but they get WAY to much credit given to them.

Nevemind is top 5 material .....

[YARDofSTUF]

Nevemind is top 5 material .....

Withing the grunge style of music, top 5 overall? hell no.

[Izzo]

Withing the grunge style of music, top 5 overall? hell no.

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