Just ordered this

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:15 am

.......I'm eager to fiddle with this ........gonna be my server test box...

1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813138264 $69.00

2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227037 $76.60

1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822135106 $53.00

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:34 pm

What else is going in it?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:51 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:What else is going in it?

Dunno yet.... think I sold the laptop I posted so I'll be looking for a CPU here real soon ...

was thinkin' this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103535

just to stay cheap ....*shrug*

Gonna throw Server 2003 on it and fiddle with that ...

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:58 pm

Izzo wrote: Gonna throw Server 2003 on it and fiddle with that ...

Don't worry too much about power if you're not doing anything intensive. I'm running the eval copy of 2003 on a celeron 300A clocked to 450, with 448megs of ram I scraped together. I'm extremely impressed with how well it runs.

Of course installing it took forever and a day, but it's just for playing, so who cares.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:19 pm

Scott wrote:Don't worry too much about power if you're not doing anything intensive. I'm running the eval copy of 2003 on a celeron 300A clocked to 450, with 448megs of ram I scraped together. I'm extremely impressed with how well it runs.

Of course installing it took forever and a day, but it's just for playing, so who cares.

cool...as you can tell I really don't want to spend too much on it ..was going to with ust one stick of RAM but it was so cheap i said wth... and I got a full copy of 2003 Enterprise from school ....and you're right I'm basically doing it to learn

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:37 pm

That's all I'm doing with it, learning. What you've got should run it very nicely.

WSUS is fun to play with, sort of.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:38 pm

Wsus?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:39 pm

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsservers ... fault.mspx

The replacement for SUS.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:57 pm

Scott wrote:http://www.microsoft.com/windowsservers ... fault.mspx

The replacement for SUS.

Cool.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:58 pm

Scott wrote:http://www.microsoft.com/windowsservers ... fault.mspx

The replacement for SUS.

:2cool:

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:28 am

What you want to be careful on ...is certified drivers...proper support for the OS. Looking on their website...I don't see drivers that have "2003" on them.

May or may not work using 2K/XP drivers......you just don't want to end up with a Device Manager riddled with "?" marks for hardware. Then the server acts wonky on ya.

I like nForce chipset...I've never installed a server OS to one. Might consider looking an an older rock solid chipset, many inexpesive yet still good branded boards out there on Intel chipsets like the 865.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:28 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:What you want to be careful on ...is certified drivers...proper support for the OS. Looking on their website...I don't see drivers that have "2003" on them.

May or may not work using 2K/XP drivers......you just don't want to end up with a Device Manager riddled with "?" marks for hardware. Then the server acts wonky on ya.

I like nForce chipset...I've never installed a server OS to one. Might consider looking an an older rock solid chipset, many inexpesive yet still good branded boards out there on Intel chipsets like the 865.

2003 Installs nicely on Nforce4 chipsets.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:47 am

It's something to be cautious of with servers. Having it appear to install correctly doesn't necessarily mean it'll run problem free 24/7. I realize it's just a home PC to dork around on for him, but I've seen "homegrown" servers in business setups. And they'll often be "flakey".

It's not so much the random lockup, or blue screen...but those oddball problems they'll have. Various services need restarting, some service not running quite right, something that normally works on proper servers...giving you grief on this particular server.

A server operating system can be more demanding than a desktop OS..even a gaming computer. Once you promote a server to DC...and run a network from it, you're dependent on a lot of little services doing their job.

It could run great for him, I hope it does. It's just something to be aware of. I hate to see someone have problems with it...and blame "Windows"..when it's not Windows that's the root of the issue.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:09 am

I've been playing around with it on a 845 intel and an nforce4 board. Got it off the Nforce4 board now so I can throw linux on it though. It ran good.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:21 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:It's something to be cautious of with servers. Having it appear to install correctly doesn't necessarily mean it'll run problem free 24/7. I realize it's just a home PC to dork around on for him, but I've seen "homegrown" servers in business setups. And they'll often be "flakey".

It's not so much the random lockup, or blue screen...but those oddball problems they'll have. Various services need restarting, some service not running quite right, something that normally works on proper servers...giving you grief on this particular server.

A server operating system can be more demanding than a desktop OS..even a gaming computer. Once you promote a server to DC...and run a network from it, you're dependent on a lot of little services doing their job.

It could run great for him, I hope it does. It's just something to be aware of. I hate to see someone have problems with it...and blame "Windows"..when it's not Windows that's the root of the issue.

Thanks man.... stuff is on the way so I'll give this a shot and let ya know. I still need a CPU though...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:42 pm

Izzo wrote:I still need a CPU though...

FX60

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:13 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:FX60

lol....nah....I think I sold my laptop. I might just pick something out this weekend. I would really like a 2005fpw.....They're on sale again

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:04 pm

FX 62... thats the next purchase i'm waiting on

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:40 pm

Sava700 wrote:FX 62... thats the next purchase i'm waiting on

Isnt that gonna be on the new AM2 socket?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:52 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Isnt that gonna be on the new AM2 socket?

I hope not... lol I'd hate to upgrade mobo too..but if thats the case i'll prob build a whole new system anyway.. got plenty of parts laying around.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:31 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:What you want to be careful on ...is certified drivers...proper support for the OS. Looking on their website...I don't see drivers that have "2003" on them.

May or may not work using 2K/XP drivers......you just don't want to end up with a Device Manager riddled with "?" marks for hardware. Then the server acts wonky on ya.

I like nForce chipset...I've never installed a server OS to one. Might consider looking an an older rock solid chipset, many inexpesive yet still good branded boards out there on Intel chipsets like the 865.

Well, got everything together and installed it last night. No driver issues at all.

I get to fiddle with it all weekend.

Joel · Post by **Joel** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:01 pm

That's a great motherboard.

We use it for a lot of our residential computer builds.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:22 pm

Joel wrote:That's a great motherboard.

We use it for a lot of our residential computer builds.

ya ...diggin' it so far