Shame on Billy Zane and Gary Busey !!

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:24 am

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02 ... index.html

ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) -- In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.

They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine-gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison -- where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

"Valley of the Wolves Iraq" -- set to open in Turkey on Friday -- feeds off the increasingly negative feelings many Turks harbor toward their longtime NATO allies: Americans.

The movie, which reportedly cost about $10 million (euro 8.3 million), is a work of fiction and does not purport to level allegations against American troops. It is part of a genre of popular culture in Turkey that demonizes the United States.

Shame on Billy Zane and Gary Busey for staring in this garbage.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:28 am

They should have their previous Oscar awards taken away from them....................oh, wait, nm!

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:11 am

Maybe if they were gay soldiers, they'd win an oscar.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:08 am

2 total "B" movie actors. Zane was an Idiot in Sniper and Busey has the largest teeth on the planet!

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:24 am

I guess they had to "pay the bills" ...

I believe Id'a had to pay them real bad to be involved in something like this though ...

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:58 am

Immortal wrote:Maybe if they were gay soldiers, they'd win an oscar.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:56 am

jeffe5150 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02 ... index.html

Shame on Billy Zane and Gary Busey for staring in this garbage.

it's just a movie

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:04 am

What goes around comes around.

Look at some of the movies hollywood makes.

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:20 am

Norm wrote:What goes around comes around.

Look at some of the movies hollywood makes.

QFT

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:25 am

Dan wrote:it's just a movie

You think those dumb ****s over there are gonna think its "just a movie"? Hell it was just a cartoon, look how much trouble that has caused.....

I hope these morons realize how many lives they have jeopardized to make this garbage....

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:29 am

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:46 am

RoscoPColtrane wrote:You think those dumb ****s over there are gonna think its "just a movie"? Hell it was just a cartoon, look how much trouble that has caused.....

I hope these morons realize how many lives they have jeopardized to make this garbage....

It's ok when Hollywood does it though, right?

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:28 pm

Norm wrote:It's ok when Hollywood does it though, right?

Hecks no!! They are all idiots. I like movies without political tie-ins, thought they are getting harder and harder to find...

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:39 pm

RoscoPColtrane wrote:Hecks no!! They are all idiots. I like movies without political tie-ins, thought they are getting harder and harder to find...

I'll admit I do like violent entertainment, but we all have to keep that in mind.
It is only entertainment.

I just didn't think it was fair to jump on this particular movie when violent politically motivated movies have been around for years.

Some peoples are a bit too sensitive, and grossly overreact when the shoe is on 'thier' foot. We saw that with the latest uproar over a cartoon.
(They act as though they've never created cartoons/movies that could possibly infuriate the other side)

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:42 pm

Norm wrote:
It is only entertainment.

I just didn't think it was fair to jump on this particular movie when violent politically motivated movies have been around for years.

Some peoples are a bit too sensitive,

like I said, it's just a movie

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:46 pm

Dan wrote: like I said, it's just a movie

Yep

I agree.

The thing is it's coming from the other side of the world this time, with the tables turned, and some people just cannot stand payback.

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:02 pm

However you have to keep in mind that these people over there will have a FIT about this and more than likely people WILL die. Remember the fit people had over Michael Moores Anti Bush movie? People didn't like it, however civilized people don't KILL people over crap like this.

With all the crap that went on with that cartoon i would say its a matter of time before they start taking it out on we "infidels" for this....

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:09 pm

Honestly, with what the troops have been caught doing over there it's no wonder a movie like this gets made.

In reality, aside from this "fictional" movie, innocent people are dieing by the thousands over there.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:11 pm

And, speaking of fits....

Someone, or someones, took a fit and sent a hundred and fifty thousand troops to Iraq and killed quite a few thousand innocent people.

That is real, not a movie.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:15 pm

RoscoPColtrane wrote:However you have to keep in mind that these people over there will have a FIT about this and more than likely people WILL die. Remember the fit people had over Michael Moores Anti Bush movie? People didn't like it, however civilized people don't KILL people over crap like this.

With all the crap that went on with that cartoon i would say its a matter of time before they start taking it out on we "infidels" for this....

well,it's not like half the world does'nt dis-like americans already.

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:15 pm

Dan wrote:it's just a movie

Your right, it is just a movie, kinda like how the Danes scratch their heads and say, "it's just a cartoon!"

beyond that, it's not about the movie, it's about two Americans whoring themselves.

It took four months for the Danish cartoons to cause a uproar, wonder how long before this causes a stir?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:20 pm

Exactly what I thought.....it was purely a political move to start rioting 4 months after the cartoon was posted. And I agree about the whoring, they soldout fo da chedda.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:27 pm

Kinda like when Arabs/Chineese/Blacks etc etc in Hollywood movies sell out there own kind by playing a steroetyped role, ya.

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:35 pm

Norm wrote:Kinda like when Arabs/Chineese/Blacks etc etc in Hollywood movies sell out there own kind by playing a steroetyped role, ya.

And it's up to the Arabs/Chinitos/Blacks in the respective countries that those sellouts call home, to call them on it, yep!

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:47 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:And it's up to the Arabs/Chinitos/Blacks in the respective countries that those sellouts call home, to call them on it, yep!

They did. They made a movie with americans depicted in a stereotyped role lol

Now look at the whining americans

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:57 pm

Norm wrote:They did. They made a movie with americans depicted in a stereotyped role lol

Now look at the whining americans

As you continue to dance around and miss the point of the original post, the only two actors I mentioned are the American ones. I could care less for the meely mouthed sellouts who call Canada home, that have parts in that movie.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:03 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:As you continue to dance around and miss the point of the original post, the only two actors I mentioned are the American ones. I could care less for the meely mouthed sellouts who call Canada home, that have parts in that movie.

It's you who have missed the point, if there is one.

"What's good for the goose, is good for the gander"

And I don't need to hide my identity to make my points

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:05 pm

Norm wrote:
And I don't need to hide my identity to make my points

LOL

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:09 pm

Dan wrote:LOL

Good to see you Dan.

Feels good out in the open doesn't it?

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:11 pm

Pieman has something to say ...

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:13 pm

Norm wrote:Good to see you Dan.

Feels good out in the open doesn't it?

Finally out of the closet, good for you!!

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:13 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:Finally out of the closet, good for you!!

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:14 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:Finally out of the closet, good for you!!

lol

Lame attempt....

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:15 pm

Prey521 wrote:

Butt kisser works fast

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:16 pm

Norm wrote:

Butt kisser works fast

like the Norm/Dan in the closet thingy!

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:18 pm

jeffe5150 wrote:like the Norm/Dan in the closet thingy!

No, more like he knew what you were going to post, he was THAT fast.

Is that YOU Prey?

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:19 pm

Does freedom of expression and speech only apply to Danish Newspapers, Movies produced in Hollywood and movies produced by Israeli Production companies , like True Lies(Which Starred Arnold Shwarzenegger), The Delta Force (Which starred Chuck Norris, Lee Marvin, Martin Balsam)?
Since 1985, Norris has consistently vilified Arabs and Muslims in his films, including “Invasion USA” (1985), “Firewalker” (1986), “Delta Force” (1986), “Delta Force 2" (1990), and “The Hitman” (1991). These films were produced by the notorious Canon Films run by the Israeli producers Menachem Golan and Yoram Globus, who pioneered the stereotype of the Arab terrorist villain in action films.
Other anti-arab movies have been :“Black Sunday” (1977), “Invasion USA” (1985), “To Live and Die in LA” (1986), “Wanted: Dead or Alive” (1986), “Terror in Beverly Hills” (1986), “Terror Squad” (1987), “Executive Decision” (1996), “Path to Paradise” (1997) and “The Siege” (1998).

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:24 pm

thepieman wrote:Does freedom of expression and speech only apply to Danish Newspapers, Movies produced in Hollywood and movies produced by Israeli Production companies , like True Lies(Which Starred Arnold Shwarzenegger), The Delta Force (Which starred Chuck Norris, Lee Marvin, Martin Balsam)?
Since 1985, Norris has consistently vilified Arabs and Muslims in his films, including “Invasion USA” (1985), “Firewalker” (1986), “Delta Force” (1986), “Delta Force 2" (1990), and “The Hitman” (1991). These films were produced by the notorious Canon Films run by the Israeli producers Menachem Golan and Yoram Globus, who pioneered the stereotype of the Arab terrorist villain in action films.
Other anti-arab movies have been :“Black Sunday” (1977), “Invasion USA” (1985), “To Live and Die in LA” (1986), “Wanted: Dead or Alive” (1986), “Terror in Beverly Hills” (1986), “Terror Squad” (1987), “Executive Decision” (1996), “Path to Paradise” (1997) and “The Siege” (1998).

Give them a minute or two to respond Pie, they're only quick with the gay stuff

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:25 pm

Norm wrote:No, more like he knew what you were going to post, he was THAT fast.

Is that YOU Prey?

jeffe5150 · Post by **jeffe5150** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:25 pm

thepieman wrote:Does freedom of expression and ............ SNORE

And the Arabs/terrorist/islamic nazis that sold out to hollywood can be freely chastized by the people of the country they live in. again, the movie isn't in question, it's the americans that call the U.S. home playing a part in a movie that can inflame a people that go nutz over a cartoon.

twist and turn it Norm/Dan/Pieman anyway you want. but it's not about the movie, it's about the Americans playing roles in said movie for a people who are obviously inmature and cannot handle even cartoons.