AMD Athlon 64 3700+ vs, AMD Opteron 148 ??

velvta · Post by **velvta** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:24 am

just wondering if someone can give me a brief table of differences between these 2 cpu's and which is the better performer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103539
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103596

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:44 am

I think I'd go for the opteron.

velvta · Post by **velvta** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:49 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:I think I'd go for the opteron.

ty for quick reply, any reason why tho, as when i compare them they seem to be the same technical wise on the stats screen that newegg has. is it because of the easy OC'ing that is mentioned?

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:55 am

intel

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:46 am

velvta wrote:ty for quick reply, any reason why tho, as when i compare them they seem to be the same technical wise on the stats screen that newegg has. is it because of the easy OC'ing that is mentioned?

I'm thinking the venice core will OC better, other than that they are basically the same.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:04 am

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=992570

drdoug99 · Post by **drdoug99** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:03 am

here's a good site that lists the differences between the AMD64 and Opteron...

http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/27340

very interesting...maybe I'll get an Opteron...

David · Post by **David** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:03 pm

The Opteron 165 can be had for around 300USD. Not bad for a dual core with 2X1Mb cache that is very overclockable.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:29 am

rivas wrote:intel

Your forgetting hes wanting speed

Joel · Post by **Joel** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:09 pm

wee96 wrote:Your forgetting hes wanting speed

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:32 pm

wee96 wrote:Your forgetting hes wanting speed

Teehee.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:03 pm

wee96 wrote:Your forgetting hes wanting speed

with amd ..vs intel ?

thats a bad one wee

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:27 pm

rivas wrote:with amd ..vs intel ?
thats a bad one wee

Someone needs to check out all the benchmarks

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:40 pm

wee96 wrote:Someone needs to check out all the benchmarks

or i say we do some benchmarks between ourselves, something that uses CPU and not video card, to keep it easy to compare.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:41 pm

Mark wrote:or i say we do some benchmarks between ourselves, something that uses CPU and not video card, to keep it easy to compare.

Works for me, we could always run a superpi challenge in here. Wanna also post our sisoft sandra numbers too? I guess that might help rivas see the light alittle

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:00 pm

Well Rivas is well equipped to benchmark running the 840EE

I guess sava has the best single core amd with his FX55.

My dual core runs 2.69, dunno what all you others are running at now.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:07 pm

wee96 wrote:Works for me, we could always run a superpi challenge in here. Wanna also post our sisoft sandra numbers too? I guess that might help rivas see the light alittle

well i payed for my intel cpu 1.6k and its 40% faster then top of the line amd cpu.Benchmark is one thing but see it on your own testing same thing on 2 computers (one of them was amd) is something else.The only minus on my cpu are games i was falling behind by 6-8% .
I dont play games

There are around 12 reviews online saying intel EE dual core 3.2 is the best but money wise amd is better choice.
And saying my cpu sux is ridiculous ....
Stick to your amd and dont forget cool it down with ice or nitrogen
Like i said before i prefer quality

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:11 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Well Rivas is well equipped to benchmark running the 840EE

I guess sava has the best single core amd with his FX55.

My dual core runs 2.69, dunno what all you others are running at now.

I'm running now at 2.5ghz
did 10% OC
the encoding is fantastic,thanks for picking up that cpu for me

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:13 pm

I assume you mean 3.5?

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:16 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:I assume you mean 3.5?

lol yes

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:17 pm

When did I say yours was crap? You seem quite defensive, oh and im for quality as well thats why I have an AMD cpu.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:19 pm

wee96 wrote:When did I say yours was crap? You seem quite defensive, oh and im for quality as well thats why I have an AMD cpu.

Dont go for peace now, a benchmark war would be fun!

SuperPi
Sisoft Guru 3D edition mem benchmark

what else?

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:21 pm

wee96 wrote:When did I say yours was crap? You seem quite defensive, oh and im for quality as well thats why I have an AMD cpu.

whatever
but your cpu cant beat mine

im not defensive its u guys,i like intel so what ? r u gonna hang me or what ?

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:22 pm

Where did you get 40% faster?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:23 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Dont go for peace now, a benchmark war would be fun!

SuperPi
Sisoft Guru 3D edition mem benchmark

what else?

sure i'm not affraid to go for benchmark
lets leave it for friday and keep this topic active,i just got home from work,working long hours now

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:23 pm

rivas wrote:r u gonna hang me or what ?

I beleive the AMD mob prefers death by firing squads.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:25 pm

wee96 wrote:Where did you get 40% faster?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

Video encoding, he uses virtual dub, I havent seen a 4800+ vs 840EE yet. Should be interesting though.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:25 pm

Well, if youll view my link youll notice the 840EE being anihilated. Not sure where you got the 40% faster number from.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:26 pm

wee96 wrote:Where did you get 40% faster?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

in video encoding
my cpu kills everything
thats the only reason why i bought it

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:27 pm

wee96 wrote:Well, if youll view my link youll notice the 840EE being anihilated. Not sure where you got the 40% faster number from.

Thats using windows media encoder, looking at different encoding programs the results vary alot.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:27 pm

wee96 wrote:Well, if youll view my link youll notice the 840EE being anihilated. Not sure where you got the 40% faster number from.

i can oc to 4.2 ,who is gonna be anihilated ? lol

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:28 pm

rivas wrote:in video encoding
my cpu kills everything
thats the only reason why i bought it

I guess you didnt look at the link, to make it quicker look here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

It doesnt beat everything in video encoding.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:29 pm

rivas wrote:i can oc to 4.2 ,who is gonna be anihilated ? lol

4.2ghz intel = 3ghz amd

That pipeline is just wayyy too long my man

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:30 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Thats using windows media encoder, looking at different encoding programs the results vary alot.

who is using windows media encoder ...only n00bs
everyone who knows something about caping is using 2 pass virtualdub to downconvert the file.Some groups are even raring it right a way so they can win the race,i dont need to do that thanks to my cpu.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:31 pm

wee96 wrote:I guess you didnt look at the link, to make it quicker look here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

It doesnt beat everything in video encoding.

google video encoing benches from different programs, intel does better that its itunes showing there, i said media encoder before, meant Itunes, llok at virtual dub and WME.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:32 pm

rivas wrote:who is using windows median encoder ...only n00bs
everyone who knows something about caping is using 2 pass virtualdub to downconvert the file.Some groups are even raring it right a way so they can win the race,i dont need to do that thanks to my cpu.

I meant itunes and its the cnet link im talking about.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:33 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:google video encoing benches from different programs, intel does better that its itunes showing there, i said media encoder before, meant Itunes, llok at virtual dub and WME.

Yea ive seen it, my link wasnt to say thats how it is peroid it was to show its not the best in video encoding in everything as being said. The 840EE is a real nice cpu/s

Its not faster though, thats the issue.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:36 pm

wee96 wrote:I guess you didnt look at the link, to make it quicker look here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

It doesnt beat everything in video encoding.

dude u have no clue what does it take to encode the file
u have to cap it
u have to get rid of commercials
u have to create ac3 file
u have to create mp3 file
u have to create avs file with script in it depending on your TV broadcast
u have to use virtualdub
then u have to connect audio and video
it all takes some time its not 5 minutes process
and ur saying AMD beats intel ?
u dont even know how to encode
wtf

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:39 pm

rivas wrote:whatever
but your cpu cant beat mine

im not defensive its u guys,i like intel so what ? r u gonna hang me or what ?

no, but don't talk crap against AMD, you are the one who says "Intel equals quality".

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:44 pm

wee96 wrote:Yea ive seen it, my link wasnt to say thats how it is peroid it was to show its not the best in video encoding in everything as being said. The 840EE is a real nice cpu/s Its not faster though, thats the issue.

only one thing is pissing me off and it is you are talking about encoding and you have no clue how to encode or how does it work
and yes its faster,i dont wanna get into some illegal stuffs here but out there are groups who are pumping big $$$ into their systems,hiring pre retail ppl,taking out screeners right from the studio just to win races (and yes they have to encode it first)and when we were comparing, this cpu is faster
so your input or lame cnet reviews means ****