Bf2 Ctd

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:48 pm

All 8 of my systems with P4's and Radeon x700s (256mb ob ram) are crashing to the desktop. they all have the latest drivers installed. Any ideas on what can fix this fellas? It seems to me that they rushed this release. one of the install cd's was missing in one of the copies i bought, They included updated graphics card drivers for Nvidia, and some of the installation seems to be "hurried along". perhaps they should have worked out the bugs first.

Crabtoes · Post by **Crabtoes** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:55 pm

UOD might help you out here...he has had many issues with ATI and BF2...i believe he has lots of good info

i think you might have to cut both of you "lighting" effects down to low when using an ATI card....but can't remember for sure

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:29 am

Is it giving you any reason for disconnect or just straight up ctd?

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:31 am

sito wrote:Is it giving you any reason for disconnect or just straight up ctd?

Straight up CTD. The only thing i'm lucky enough to see is the splash screen. then my desktop blacks out and it appears it is trying to change resolution. I tried switching my res from 1280x1024 to 1024x768, but nothing.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:32 am

KSJNX wrote:Straight up CTD. The only thing i'm lucky enough to see is the splash screen. then my desktop blacks out and it appears it is trying to change resolution. I tried switching my res from 1280x1024 to 1024x768, but nothing.

Happens with single player too?

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:35 am

sito wrote:Happens with single player too?

yep. I only see the splash screen.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:42 am

With 8 systems I take it you have an internet/gaming cafe sort or thing? Are all the systems completely the same? If so, what are the complete specs of your rigs? This will help others help you if we can't fix this now. Have you checked for spyware, malware, viruses etc?

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:45 am

sito wrote:With 8 systems I take it you have an internet/gaming cafe sort or thing? Are all the systems completely the same? If so, what are the complete specs of your rigs? This will help others help you if we can't fix this now. Have you checked for spyware, malware, viruses etc?

Lets see. It's 1am so i'll do my best. yes, I run a gaming cafe. All the systems are 100% the same. All with 19 inch LCD digital monitors. all have 3ghz p4's with 1gb ddr2 ram and ati radeon x700's pci-e with 256mb of ram. all running windows xp home with smartlaunch/dameon tools installed. we tried installing the demo, but got the same results. We were hoping it would be fixed in the official release, but it looks like were still in the same boat.
theyre all clean systems. no adware or spyware.
Thanks for all your help guys.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:50 am

KSJNX wrote:Lets see. It's 1am so i'll do my best. yes, I run a gaming cafe. All the systems are 100% the same. All with 19 inch LCD digital monitors. all have 3ghz p4's with 1gb ddr2 ram and ati radeon x700's pci-e with 256mb of ram. all running windows xp home with smartlaunch/dameon tools installed. we tried installing the demo, but got the same results. We were hoping it would be fixed in the official release, but it looks like were still in the same boat.
theyre all clean systems. no adware or spyware.
Thanks for all your help guys.

How much system ram and what mobo? Have you tried without daemon tools?

Edit: 1 gig, roger.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:54 am

You shouldn't have any trouble running it as I'm sure you know. I'm an Nvidia user so I can't give much advice on your video card, but by tomorrow UOD and some others I'm sure will have some advice for you.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:56 am

Also daemon tools made my old system unstable.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:00 am

All windows updates done? The more info you provide the better.

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:04 am

sito wrote:All windows updates done? The more info you provide the better.

yes, everythings latest (sp2, ect). unfortunatley, Daemon tools is a vital part of our business. without it, we cant run BF2, or other games legally. I'm certainly willing to try without it tommorow, but if it is the problem causer, there isnt much to do about it. I fail to grasp why it doesnt run properly. We have been running other games and demos that if arent as demanding as this one, more, and yet it seems to hate us :P.

Thanks for all your help man.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:13 am

KSJNX wrote:yes, everythings latest (sp2, ect). unfortunatley, Daemon tools is a vital part of our business. without it, we cant run BF2, or other games legally. I'm certainly willing to try without it tommorow, but if it is the problem causer, there isnt much to do about it. I fail to grasp why it doesnt run properly. We have been running other games and demos that if arent as demanding as this one, more, and yet it seems to hate us :P.

Thanks for all your help man.

Ever try virtual CD. You have to buy it but it seems to work better, at least for me it does. Definately worth a try without using daemon tools. Like I said, I'm sure their will be others with suggestions tomorrow. Hope it works out for you.

Crabtoes · Post by **Crabtoes** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:23 am

this came from the EA support site....it adresses daemon tools at the very bottom

i have never used daemon tools so i am not sure if their answer mean it is or is not supported

also i know that virtual drive by far stone is not supported yet because mine wont launch from the vcd (it might be fixed in a farstone update)
Question

Why does the game say 'CD/DVD Emulation Software Detected'?
Answer

This error is presented when active CD Emulation software is detected by the copy protection on the game CD. This software must be disabled for the game to launch properly. It is very common for CD/DVD copying software to include such software as a suite of products, so you will need to make sure that if your CD/DVD copying software includes such software that it is disabled as well.

Below is a list of software that is known as, or known to include CD Emulation Software that could potentially prevent the game from playing properly:

* Fantom CD Emulator
* Alcohol 120%
* Nero Image Drive
* Phantom CD
* Clone CD
* Ark Virtual Drive
* Veritas DLA

If you are unsure about how to turn off emulation settings, consult your emulation program help files. If you have emulation software not listed above that does not provide adequate information about how to turn off emulation to avoid software conflicts, and then remove the software from your machine.

Here are a few examples:

If Alcohol 120% is on the machine:

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Start Alcohol and go to the Emulation Options.

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Select Emulation from the options tree. Uncheck the Ignore Media Types box to turn off the media type emulation, exit Alcohol 120% and restart the game application.

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Select Extra Emulation from the options tree. Uncheck the BAD Sectors Emulation to turn off this type of emulation, exit Alcohol 120% and restart the game.

If CloneCD is on the machine:

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Look on your task bar at the bottom right of your screen (next to the clock). Locate the CloneCD tray icon, which can be a picture of two CD-ROMs; or of a sheeps head . Right Click on the icon and make sure Hide CD-R media is un-ticked. Restart the game application.

If Daemon Tools is on the machine:

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Select the icon at the bottom of the status bar of windows.
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Find the Daemon Tools Icon
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Right Click on the Daemon Tools icon in the Task Bar.
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Select the Emulation tab.
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Deselect SafeDisc.

http://eatech.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/eate ... .search_nl

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:43 am

just install the nocd patch that gamecopyworld has no need for all these ghost drives and such.

And gaming cafe.. interesting.. do you profit from it? What area are you it must be in a high populated area to at least make anything from it? I'm interested in hearing more if you wish to PM me about it.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:45 am

KSJNX wrote:All with 19 inch LCD digital monitors.

Have you tried running the game at the same resolution as your desktop? If you run the desktop at 1280 x 1024, modify your BF2 shortcut to be "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024

How did you try to configure the res before? If you fiddled with any .con files, make sure you put them back to default.

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:36 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Have you tried running the game at the same resolution as your desktop? If you run the desktop at 1280 x 1024, modify your BF2 shortcut to be "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024

How did you try to configure the res before? If you fiddled with any .con files, make sure you put them back to default.

Daemon tools works to emulate BF2. Its the only emulation program I have on these systems. I will try the resolution thing today. I assumed that the game probably runs at 1024x768, so I tried that as default res, but still didnt work. I'll try the shortcut method today when I go in.

Thanks fellas

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:45 am

Sava700 wrote:just install the nocd patch that gamecopyworld has no need for all these ghost drives and such.

And gaming cafe.. interesting.. do you profit from it? What area are you it must be in a high populated area to at least make anything from it? I'm interested in hearing more if you wish to PM me about it.

Weve looked into thing like this indepth, or at least, I have, lol. Though the legality of a no cd patch is questionable, because it modifies the game files, emulation is fine. as long as you have as many licenses as you do sytems you plan to run on. no cd patches also hinder us from updating the game.

We just started running the cafe (sooner than I wanted to because we simply arent ready) and we already have kids glued in thier seats. for 5 bucks an hour, they seem to love it. the only downside to this buisiness is hardware depreciation, and cost of the systems. we havent spared any expense on this thing, so its gonna take a bit to pay it back. at full capacity though, we plan to make 5000-7500 a month. It's decent profit for a 15000 investment. It seems xbox's are a lot lot better on returning money though. it's maybe 700 bucks for an xbox system and a nice tv that 4 people can play vs a 2500 dollar system that one person can play

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Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:29 pm

interesting.. perhaps a cafe with the new xbox's and playstations hooked up to big Wide screen LCD's and networked to play against each other if need be will be more of a profit..

But as I said I assume your in a high populated area too.

As for the no-cd patch I don't see no difference in it as I do making a ghost drive etc.. your still playing the game with no disk in the computer either way.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:53 pm

Sava700 wrote:
As for the no-cd patch I don't see no difference in it as I do making a ghost drive etc.. your still playing the game with no disk in the computer either way.

I agree, as long as you've bought your CD keys legit, I don't see any reason why you can't run the game using any method of your choice.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:02 pm

Check the refresh rate, I recall that being a problem with LCD's???

KSJNX · Post by **KSJNX** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:25 pm

Scott wrote:Check the refresh rate, I recall that being a problem with LCD's???

hrmmmmm. i'll give it a shot. so far ive rolled back and tried just about every driver ive found. ive also tried the resolution thing, but still nothing.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:54 am

I tell ya man this game is so resource needing even with the hardware I'm running its causing me issues so don't be thinkin your the only one having issues I feel for ya chief

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:19 am

Scott wrote:Check the refresh rate, I recall that being a problem with LCD's???

Yeah that's another thing, many LCD's like to run at 60, game should match.

tpwalker1980 · Post by **tpwalker1980** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:07 pm

Same problem here.

After a little while of gameplay, BF2 crashes to desktop.

System Specs:
Windows SP2 - ALL updates available installed
P4 3.0ghz +HT
1024mb DDR400 Ram
ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256mb (AGP)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card
19in CRT monitor

Game Video Settings:
Display 1024x768@60Hz
Terrain High
Effects High
Geometry High
Texture High
Lighting Medium
Dynamic Shadows Medium
Dynamic Lighting High
Anti-Aliasing Off
Texture Filtering High
View Distance 100%

I only seem to CTD in multiplayer mode. I am not using any sort of NO CD utility or crack.

I heard that if you have multiple nic cards, and one is set to disabled.. that it can cause problems. So I went into bios and turned off the extra NIC not used. So it doesn't even show up in windows.. But I still have the same problem.

Crabtoes · Post by **Crabtoes** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:49 pm

i have heard using HT can cause problems

chimdogger · Post by **chimdogger** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:49 pm

CTD on my lappy too. I think its more of a EA writes bad code problem that will be taken care of in a patch (hopefully soon).

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:59 pm

Crabtoes wrote:i have heard using HT can cause problems

Not bothering mine.

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:25 pm

Playing on Linux Servers you will CTD after every round. If the server chokes on a turd and crashes you will CTD too. Randy, UOD and myself were all playing on the same server and all three of us Crashed to desktop at the end of the round. Once in the middle of a round too. It's not a client issue per se it's a server issue. Something is messed up in the server code somewhere. Hopefully the patch will fix most of these problems.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:54 pm

EA should have come out with that patch today... not sure why they are holding it off I hear its finished they were just all on Vacation