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Were They Right In Arresting An 8 Year Old?

Yes
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No
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MadDoctor
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Is the child to blame? Many points of view.....
People will forget what you said... and people will forget what you did... but people will never forget how you made them feel.
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UOD wrote:It's not blaming the parents....it's requiring the parents to take parental responsibility. If they have neglected their parenting duties...then why do we put the pitbull to sleep????
I was trying to avoid poor comparisons.

Responsibilities. Hmmm... It would seem that they have shifted so much over a short period of time.

The majority of families have both parents working with children sometimes coming home to empty houses. The television delivers the lessons of pop culture to their minds which is discussed among peers as though it was the most important thing on earth.

We have our opinions, I would like to hear how you plan to manage your daughter. I only ask because I have a great deal of apprehension on how I can manage my family.

david
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
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nepenthe wrote:I was trying to avoid poor comparisons.

Responsibilities. Hmmm... It would seem that they have shifted so much over a short period of time.

The majority of families have both parents working with children sometimes coming home to empty houses. The television delivers the lessons of pop culture to their minds which is discussed among peers as though it was the most important thing on earth.

We have our opinions, I would like to hear how you plan to manage your daughter. I only ask because I have a great deal of apprehension on how I can manage my family.

david

Mackenzie is supervised closely 24/7. I work days, Heather works nights...Mackenzie is never alone with our overlapping schedules. Heather and I remain consistent with reward AND punishment. Both are immediate and swift. Mackenzie is also on a very rigid schedule...we eat together, we play together, we make time for her needed activities. she gets her own private time at night...free to play on her own or watch the tube...mainly kid DVD's like Care Bears, Disney stuff, Jay Jay the Jet Plane, etc. We read together...she loves that...and we always say our prayers before going to bed.

I'm very lucky but I make it a point to be an inclusive parent. Mackenzie is no angel...but I choose which battles must be won at all costs. I don't need to raise my voice often, but when I do...she knows she has crossed the line.
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Hey Ye, you make some very good points, but I would never allow another person to lay a hand on my kid just cuz he was talkin in class or something stupid like that. Now if he/she tried to attack the teacher or something FIRST, then by all means, kick his ass. I was raised that if someone strikes you first, you'd better make sure that they don't have a chance to get a second hit in, so my thinkin is a little street! ;)
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UOD wrote:Mackenzie is supervised closely 24/7. I work days, Heather works nights...Mackenzie is never alone with our overlapping schedules. Heather and I remain consistent with reward AND punishment. Both are immediate and swift. Mackenzie is also on a very rigid schedule...we eat together, we play together, we make time for her needed activities. she gets her own private time at night...free to play on her own or watch the tube...mainly kid DVD's like Care Bears, Disney stuff, Jay Jay the Jet Plane, etc. We read together...she loves that...and we always say our prayers before going to bed.

I'm very lucky but I make it a point to be an inclusive parent. Mackenzie is no angel...but I choose which battles must be won at all costs. I don't need to raise my voice often, but when I do...she knows she has crossed the line.

The harder you work the luckier you get.... Pity that others do not have your skills and means.

The pre-K years are where we can totally control the child's world and development. Even social activities with their peers can be under our watchful eye. As they grow however, we are forced to let go more and more. In school, others will influence our little ones. It is by the barriers they meet in the outside world (often, without our witness) that will keep growing socially.

david
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
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MadDoctor wrote:Is the child to blame? Many points of view.....
good point...
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
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nepenthe wrote:The harder you work the luckier you get.... Pity that others do not have your skills and means.

The pre-K years are where we can totally control the child's world and development. Even social activities with their peers can be under our watchful eye. As they grow however, we are forced to let go more and more. In school, others will influence our little ones. It is by the barriers they meet in the outside world (often, without our witness) that will keep growing socially.

david

I still think that this was the wrong path to take with this child.

Cost/Benefit.

In very simplistic terms...what is the cost/benefit to arresting a child? It angers me that we have made tremendous strides in our prisons to reduce recidivism through education yet here we are....sending our customers of education to jail.
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UOD wrote:I still think that this was the wrong path to take with this child.

Cost/Benefit.

In very simplistic terms...what is the cost/benefit to arresting a child? It angers me that we have made tremendous strides in our prisons to reduce recidivism through education yet here we are....sending our customers of education to jail.

Arresting does not mean imprisonment. The threat can be very effective. By creating the atmosphere of the punishment, it instills a sobering reality to an abstract thought for a child. Perhaps excessive in the aforementioned case.

david
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
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