Christians should NOT vote for Kerry

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:46 am

1) Kerry Will Prolong Americas Abortion Nightmare

John Kerry has long opposed every pro-life measure offered in the U.S. Senate while avidly advocating abortion rights. NARAL rates Kerrys record as 100% mpro-choice.” His support for human embryo research will lead to tax-funded harvesting of human embryos. God promises to punish any people who passively tolerate the shedding of innocent blood (Gen 4:9-11; 9:5-6; Ex 20:13; 21:22-23; Lev 20:1-5; Dt 19:10-13; Ps 9:17; Pr 1:11-1624:11-12).

2) He Will Advance the Homosexual Agenda, Including Civil mUnions” & mMarriages”

God calls homosexuality an mabomination” (Lev 18:22-30). Sodom and Gommorah serve as a perpetual reminder of Gods displeasure with this perversion (Jude 5-7). Yet Kerry wants to welcome openly gay and trans-sexual men and women into the military. He supports gay civil unions - with spousal benefits. He voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, which protects states rights not to recognize mgay” marriages performed elsewhere. Kerry vows to make local offenses against homosexuals federal mhate” crimes.

3) Kerry Will Continue Systematically to Destroy the Traditional Family

God made family the cornerstone of human civilization, yet Kerry opposes any Federal Marriage Amendment. His committment to abortion, feminism, homosexuality, increased taxes, etc., will destroy families. Under Kerry, The ACLU, People for the American Way, The United Nations, Planned Parenthood and Hollywood will shape federal family policy (Gen 1:27-28; 2:23-24; Dt 6:4-7; Neh 4:14; Is 3:12-15; Eph 5:22-6:4; Col 3:16-21; 1 Tim 3:4; 5:8).

4) He Will Appoint Judges Hostile To Christianity & Gods Moral Order

Kerry promises to appoint only mpro-choice” lifetime Supreme Court justices and federal judges. Long after Kerry is gone, his leftist judges will override congresses, presidents and the American people, tyrannizing Christians and refashioning a legal system devoid of the morals essential for Americas survival (Dt 16:18-20; Pr 16:12; 17:15; 22:28; Is 59:2-15; Mic 3:9-12).

5) Clinton Era Truth, Morality & Ethics Will Return Under Kerry

Flip-flopping, campaign lies, anger & hatred have characterized the Kerry campaign against President Bush and will be redirected against Christians and conservatives across America, emboldening officials who despise God and Biblical righteousness (Ps 64:6-9; 89:14-15; Is 1:23-28; 59:1-15).

6) Kerry Will Further the Liberal Indoctrination of Americas Children

God commands parents to engraft their children with Scripture and a Christian worldview. Yet, having made promises to the ultra-liberal National Education Association, Kerry will increase federal funding for teachers and expand the power of Christ-less public education (Dt 6:4-9; 11:18-21; 1 Sam 8:9-18; Pr 22:6; Jer 9:2a; Mt 18:5-6; Eph 6:4).

7) He Will Plunge America Deeper into Humanistic Socialism

Creeping socialism has displaced individual liberty, economic freedom and the Lordship of Christ in America. Many Americans now look to government to meet their needs (1 Sam 8:6-7). Productive workers are overtaxed to fund an endless array of unconstitutional government benefits. John Kerry wants to raise taxes and revive the era of "Big Government” (Ex 20:15; 1 Sam 8:10-18; Neh 5:3-5).

8) Kerry's Radical Environmentalism Will Weaken America

Kerry will attempt to please liberal environmentalists to whom he is indebted. He will embrace some form of the Kyoto Protocol, which experts warn will cost the U.S. billions in compliance costs, trillions in lost GDP, bankruptcy for a million small businesses, millions of lost jobs and a 40% to 90% increase in consumer prices, including the cost of fuel. Kerry will impose radical environmentalist solutions upon businesses, governments and private property owners via far-reaching regulations (Ex 20:3-6; Dt 4:14-19; Is 44:13-20; 45:18-20; Rom 1:18-23).

9) He Will Rush to Yield American Sovereignty to the UN & Others

Kerrys speeches reveal his strong intention to subordinate Americas national interests to that of the mWorld Community.” Kerry will entangle the U.S. in a plethora of international treaties whose terms will supercede our own laws. Questions of whether America will act to defend itself will be submitted to the U.N. Security Council and mworld opinion” (Gen 11:5-9; Dt 32:7-8; Ps 22:28; Is 2:4; Mt 24:6-14; Acts 17:26-28; Rev 19:11-16).

10) Kerry Will Neuter Americas Military & Embolden our Enemies

National security is a God-ordained role of civil government (Rom 13). Kerrys well-known antagonism toward the military, lie-filled congressional testimony, radical anti-war activities, unwillingness to back our troops in vote after vote and opposition to improved weapons and intelligence systems, all disqualify him from leading our troops. (1 Chr 12:32-38; Ez 3:1-6; Pr 22:3; Lk 11:21-22; 14:31-32; Jn 10:10-16; I Tim 5:8).

Lord, Help us to Pray:

· Lord, AMERICA HAS SINNED GRIEVOUSLY! We deserve crushing judgment via unrighteous rulers, but we plead with you for MERCY. Stir Your people to PRAY & VOTE for leaders who will use their influence to turn America back to You (Ex 15:13; 18:21; Dt 17:15-20; Josh 24:15; Nu 14:11-19; 2 Chr 7:14; Neh 9:32-36; Jonah 3:5-10; John 1:14; 2:15-18; 1 Sam 8:5-20; Is 44:24-45:4; Zec 11:16; Tit 3:10-11).

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:50 am

However, those NOT lost in blind faith should! I guess.

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:53 am

I pray now that even though I will get less than 2 hours sleep, I wake up and get the job done. I will pray now.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:11 am

good thing I'm not a christian

SRF01 · Post by **SRF01** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:18 am

BaLa wrote:good thing I'm not a christian

LOL

Is anyone else getting tired of this guy?

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:20 am

BaLa wrote:good thing I'm not a christian

There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

SRF01 · Post by **SRF01** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:24 am

saved wrote:There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

I'll take my chances, thanks.

you know you are not doing your fellow christians any justice. Please quit trying to ram your beliefs down our throats.

Maybe you should take a note out of Brent's book. He is a good christian and has strong beliefs, yet he doesn't try to ram them in our face everytime he posts.

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:27 am

SRF01 wrote:I'll take my chances, thanks.

you know you are not doing your fellow christians any justice. Please quit trying to ram your beliefs down our throats.

Maybe you should take a note out of Brent's book. He is a good christian and has strong beliefs, yet he doesn't try to ram them in our face everytime he posts.

I think I will pass on Brent's book. I already have the book I need and it is the bible. No one has had any belief ramed down them. This is an open forum and all you have to do is put me on ignor or not read what i say. Sort of simple

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:29 am

saved wrote:There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

I will refrain from commenting on that

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:33 am

Well here is some food for thought. If God appoints rulers of the people, then just why are you telling us who not to as well as to vote for? I could swear that I read in the bible that we are not to concern ourselves with mans worldy affairs, but only those of God.

horsemen_ · Post by **horsemen_** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:42 pm

mmm bush isnt that great. if u want to look at the bible. hhmm under bush they are now putting medical comp chips in your arms with all your medical info. hhmmm dont they talk about that in revelation. so saying kerry is the anti Christ is pushing it .....oo and you need to read a lil more on bush he flipped on the gay ban last week. oo and one last note kerry and bush are both in the skull and bones .so we get the same group pulling strings no matter who wins

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:50 pm

saved wrote:I think I will pass on Brent's book. I already have the book I need and it is the bible. No one has had any belief ramed down them. This is an open forum and all you have to do is put me on ignor or not read what i say. Sort of simple

Word!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:58 pm

Saved.......what do you really think? Are all your decisions and thought processes based on fundamentalist emails?

Other than just drop in and copy paste something...why not a bit of discourse?

Osama is a fundamentalist...no?

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:57 pm

blebs99 wrote:Well here is some food for thought. If God appoints rulers of the people, then just why are you telling us who not to as well as to vote for? I could swear that I read in the bible that we are not to concern ourselves with mans worldy affairs, but only those of God.

Then how about giving the scripture reference or are you just adding to what the bible says for personal purposes?

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:00 pm

horsemen_ wrote:mmm bush isnt that great. if u want to look at the bible. hhmm under bush they are now putting medical comp chips in your arms with all your medical info. hhmmm dont they talk about that in revelation. so saying kerry is the anti Christ is pushing it .....oo and you need to read a lil more on bush he flipped on the gay ban last week. oo and one last note kerry and bush are both in the skull and bones .so we get the same group pulling strings no matter who wins

No the revelation does not talk about that. There is no command not to use medical implants with your medical records on them. About the skull and bones. You make the point about them and do not say what they are about. Why is that? If they are so bad tell us all what they are doing wrong.

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:03 pm

downhill wrote:Saved.......what do you really think? Are all your decisions and thought processes based on fundamentalist emails?

Other than just drop in and copy paste something...why not a bit of discourse?

Osama is a fundamentalist...no?

All my beliefs are based on the word of God. As for being a fundamental that is a compliment. I give discourse all the time. What is your question?

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:10 pm

saved wrote:All my beliefs are based on the word of God. As for being a fundamental that is a compliment. I give discourse all the time. What is your question?

You really don't understand it? You drop in ....give us a cut and paste then disappear....

Most forums have a name for that.....and it's not very flattering. I've often thought about just moving your threads as you really don't partake much of the other forums on this site nor do you (as a rule) join in on the other threads in this forum. Then you surprise me.

It gives the impression that your only mission here is to beat the other members about the head with your own personal beliefs..No?

SeedOfChaos · Post by **SeedOfChaos** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:11 pm

"This message is hidden because saved is on your ignore list."

Congrats, you're the first to make it. Since April 2000!!!

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:09 pm

Mark of the beast already happened....social security #'s

Do you have a SS # saved? Ohhh thats bad...

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:14 pm

Those look like the TOP 12 reasons to Vote kerry to me.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:35 pm

saved wrote:I think I will pass on Brent's book. I already have the book I need and it is the bible. No one has had any belief ramed down them. This is an open forum and all you have to do is put me on ignor or not read what i say. Sort of simple

Weird... mine is the Bible. Are you reading one that you made up?

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:01 pm

saved wrote:There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

Ya feel free to let me know what that's like when you get there ok?

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:28 pm

Prey521 wrote:Word!

Prey: Love your sig. Very educational. Consider adding this one:

http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/watch-video.asp

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:47 pm

Dakota wrote:Prey: Love your sig. Very educational. Consider adding this one:

http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/watch-video.asp

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:00 pm

Cool! Right on, Bro!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:21 pm

saved wrote:There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

So when are u gonna come out?

Jenny · Post by **Jenny** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:31 pm

Do you realize how much of a negative reputation you are giving Christians. I am not trying to be rude, just letting you know you need to go about things a different way.. I am a Christian and have a very strong faith...but you cannot shove things down peoples' throats.. I have seen many of your posts and have stayed out of it. But I am really tired of seeing things said that are extremely judgemental... From one Christian to another, you need to rethink how you say things. all it is doing is turning people off and people more of a reason to think we are all fanatical.
Again I dont mean to offend you.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:33 pm

Jenny wrote:Do you realize how much of a negative reputation you are giving Christians. I am not trying to be rude, just letting you know you need to go about things a different way.. I am a Christian and have a very strong faith...but you cannot shove things down peoples' throats.. I have seen many of your posts and have stayed out of it. But I am really tired of seeing things said that are extremely judgemental... From one Christian to another, you need to rethink how you say things. all it is doing is turning people off and people more of a reason to think we are all fanatical.
Again I dont mean to offend you.

Thats a real Christian.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:34 pm

Jenny wrote:I am not trying to be rude

You need to help teach saved that part. There are some heavy christans here, but saved is the only what that is really arogant and rude about it.

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:00 pm

Lord, AMERICA HAS SINNED GRIEVOUSLY! We deserve crushing judgment via unrighteous rulers, but we plead with you for MERCY.

See, thats what I've been saying all along!

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:04 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:You need to help teach saved that part. There are some heavy christans here, but saved is the only what that is really arogant and rude about it.

striker8000 · Post by **striker8000** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:14 am

Blisster wrote:Those look like the TOP 12 reasons to Vote kerry to me.

I mailed mine in, for Kerry

Jenny wrote:Do you realize how much of a negative reputation you are giving Christians. I am not trying to be rude, just letting you know you need to go about things a different way.. I am a Christian and have a very strong faith...but you cannot shove things down peoples' throats.. I have seen many of your posts and have stayed out of it. But I am really tired of seeing things said that are extremely judgemental... From one Christian to another, you need to rethink how you say things. all it is doing is turning people off and people more of a reason to think we are all fanatical.
Again I dont mean to offend you.

The lady is right.

there will be fanatics in any good-natured group, whether religious, or otherwise

Saved, I hope you never meet a couple of my ex-friends, they are worse than you.

~the hardest judge is your own mind, if you can trouble yourself to see~

striker8000 · Post by **striker8000** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:22 am

saved wrote:There is nothing good about suffering in total darkness all alone for all eternity.

Total darkness [cat-with-the-canary grin], you did say total darkness

, my kind of place, I like the Darkness, gives me the inner eye, so that I might better know myself, for me that would not be suffering, that would be heaven. (OK, I admit it, this might be a little over the top)

Jenny · Post by **Jenny** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:34 pm

Thanks for the positives guys...

stevebakh · Post by **stevebakh** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:39 pm

Wow... Saved, your attitude reflects that of a person who has gone from one extreme to the other. So, what happened? What caused you to go from one extreme to the other?

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Ah.. he's banned? Howcome? PM is necessary.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:08 am

How is #8 on saved's anti-Christian?

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:45 am

nepenthe wrote:How is #8 on saved's anti-Christian?

Who knows....how were any of them anything according to any of those bible verses he was quoting lol. Did they have environmentalism 2000 years ago? Did they even have National Debt to worry about?
What were all those freaky m's ? mUnions” & mMarriages mgay mpro-choice

I loved this part:

Lord, AMERICA HAS SINNED GRIEVOUSLY! We deserve crushing judgment via unrighteous rulers, but we plead with you for MERCY

I guess he forgot who has been president for the past four years.